Re: [WiX-users] Launch Checkbox

2006-07-31 Thread Shmarya Rubenstein
On 7/30/06, Bob Arnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shmarya Rubenstein wrote:> - A set of merge-modules for various "software components".The first question: Do you need merge modules at all? They complicatethings, as you've discovered, and with .wixlibs, they're not necessary unless you need to dist

Re: [WiX-users] Launch Checkbox

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Cicerone
I think you might be mixing concepts.  In wixlib files, there are no appended guids (there don’t need to be because collisions are detected directly).  You should never have to refer to things with their appended guids in WiX authoring.  The modularization should just happen when appropriat

Re: [WiX-users] Launch Checkbox

2006-07-31 Thread Shmarya Rubenstein
I'm not using wixlibs.. I'm using modules!On 7/31/06, Derek Cicerone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you might be mixing concepts.  In wixlib files, there are no appended guids (there don't need to be because collisions are detected directly).  You should never have to refer to th

Re: [WiX-users] How to set one File for two Components

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Hamflett
You could use CopyFile and RemoveFile elements, but it's much easier to just include the file twice. I'd only really consider this option if the file was huge. Rob Derek Cicerone wrote: > There's no better way - that's it. > > Derek > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

[WiX-users] MergeModules vs. WixLib

2006-07-31 Thread Shmarya Rubenstein
Hi all,This question has come up a couple of times in the last couple of days on various threads... but I'm still a little confused.Which should be used when: MergeModules or WixLib?So far as I understand these are the charactheristics: MergeModules:- Standard MSI object- 'hard' linked by light- se

Re: [WiX-users] Launch Checkbox

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Cicerone
You cannot make a reference into a merge module.  Merge modules are processed by mergemod.dll (a special dll from the Windows SDK), so WiX has very little interaction with the contents of merge modules being put in your MSI file.  This is one of the reasons we advise against using merge mod

Re: [WiX-users] MergeModules vs. WixLib

2006-07-31 Thread Shmarya Rubenstein
Derek just pretty much answered in one of the other threads on this issue:"Merge modules are processed by mergemod.dll (a special dll from the Windows SDK), so WiX has very little interaction with the contents of merge modules being put in your MSI file.  This is one of the reasons we advise again

Re: [WiX-users] shortcut and validation error

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Hamflett
The ICEs are paranoid and assume that someone could change ALLUSERS when they install the product in order to do a per-user install. In this case the component needs a per-user keypath in order to keep track of it for each user, which is why it wants an entry in HKCU. I'm not sure why this i

[WiX-users] Preparing to install...

2006-07-31 Thread Calin Iaru
Hi List, when starting a fresh installation, there's always a window saying "Preparing to install ...". I see in the log file that this "show dialog" event is not wrapped between any actions, so my question is - Is there a way to customize this window? Best regards, Calin --

Re: [WiX-users] shortcut and validation error

2006-07-31 Thread Shmarya Rubenstein
On 7/31/06, Rob Hamflett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The ICEs are paranoid and assume that someone could change ALLUSERS when they install the product inorder to do a per-user install.  In this case the component needs a per-user keypath in order tokeep track of it for each user, which is why it wan

Re: [WiX-users] Preparing to install...

2006-07-31 Thread Bob Arnson
Calin Iaru wrote: > when starting a fresh installation, there's always a window saying > "Preparing to install ...". I see in the log file that this "show > dialog" event is not wrapped between any actions, so my question is - Is > there a way to customize this window? > No. MSI shows thi

Re: [WiX-users] Enterprise Library MSM at GotDotNet

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Mensching
> http://gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=e14336d7- 1b7b-4287-8e20-51fe07cb12aa > It uses installutil. I looked into the MSM a bit. If I understand the code correct, it appears that I was wrong and you can call InstallUtil on GAC'd assemblies (although reaching into

Re: [WiX-users] Have any of you seen WixTrim?

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Mensching
> This is a pretty neat looking GUI editor for WiX.  Yeah, I looked at it over a year ago (kinda' chagrined that the thing used ClickOnce to deploy, heh). Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it has been developed since then. The editor still doesn't support adding Components or Files. I'm not

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Mensching
Product/@Id is a kinda' scary thing to make optional.  What if someone just accidentally forgets to add one?  Or what if someone copies an example that didn't add it?  The developer will end up with a product that is very difficult to track.   I appreciate the consistency proposed but I'm

Re: [WiX-users] MergeModules vs. WixLib

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Mensching
0.  It is less about "preferable" and more about ".wixlibs actually are designed to solve the problems it appears you are working on.  Merge Modules are not intended to be used the way you are trying to use them."   1.  Not much.  But in WiX v2, there really isn't much to .wixlibs.  They

[WiX-users] Pushing WiX to SourceForge

2006-07-31 Thread Frederik Carlier
Hi all,   Judging from the release.txt file, the July, 27th releases of WiX 2.0 and 3.0 (1926/4326) contain a fair amount of enhancements. That’s why I’m thinking about pushing this version to SourceForge.   Any feedback on this version in particular (both people having good and bad exp

[WiX-users] Add/Remove Program Icon on Windows 2000

2006-07-31 Thread Sherwood Hu
Hi all,   We just adopted WIX in our installer building. We tested on one of our products. Everything works smoothly so far, but with one small caveat – the add/remove program icon does not show up on Windows 2000. It is fine on Windows XP and win2K3. The icon is pointed to an icon file.

Re: [WiX-users] Pushing WiX to SourceForge

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Mensching
> Judging from the release.txt file, the July, 27th releases of WiX 2.0 > and 3.0 (1926/4326) contain a fair amount of enhancements. > That's why I'm thinking about pushing this version to SourceForge. That back log is mostly my fault. The password for the user account used to push the bits up

Re: [WiX-users] Add/Remove Program Icon on Windows 2000

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Mensching
> the add/remove program icon does not show up on Windows 2000. It > is fine on Windows XP and win2K3. The icon is pointed to an icon file. > Any ideas? I want to say I remember something about Win2K ARP requiring the .ico to be stored in the resource stream in a DLL (resource-only DLL is fine).

Re: [WiX-users] Enterprise Library MSM at GotDotNet

2006-07-31 Thread Joe Kaplan
I doubt you are missing anything obvious. I just noticed it on GDN and thought I'd point it out to the people using EL on the list. I'm still convinced that a better installer for EL could be made that actually did the instrumentation features declaratively, but it is a starting point and migh

Re: [WiX-users] Have any of you seen WixTrim?

2006-07-31 Thread Joe Kaplan
The tool definitely has a long way to go before it becomes a great GUI for WiX. Some notion of factoring your authoring into fragments is an absolute must, among the other features that aren't implemented yet. However, it does look promising and has nice eye candy. The thing that I thought wa

Re: [WiX-users] Have any of you seen WixTrim?

2006-07-31 Thread Darren Kulp
Perhaps some would find useful WixEdit (http://wixedit.sourceforge.net/); it appears to be in more active development than WixTrim, and has a dialog editor and rather good overall interface. It supports editing, though not creating, Fragments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ma

Re: [WiX-users] MergeModules vs. WixLib

2006-07-31 Thread Shmarya Rubenstein
Hi Rob,Firstly, I've now completed my migrate to .wixlib (thanks to a lot of multi-file/regex/find-replace ;)) and am very happy with the results... for a number of reasons:0. You're absolutely right, wixlibs are what I needed all along... I think I was just mislead by what I'd previously heard abo

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Cicerone
That is an excellent point – what if we keep the ???... syntax just for Product/@Id in that case and go with the recommendations below for everything else?   Thanks, Derek   From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WiX-users] How to set one File for two Components

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Cicerone
Please note that CopyFile and RemoveFile are dangerous from a security perspective because they don't provide a simple patching solution. I would advise against that method. Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Monday,

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Mensching
I'd be okay with that. From: Derek Cicerone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes That is an excellent po

Re: [WiX-users] How to set one File for two Components

2006-07-31 Thread david adams
For our class libraries (shared assemblies that are GAC-installed), we just create two components for the same file (and add the file twice). In our case, we are conditionally adding the assemblies to both the GAC and a local install directory to support adding of references to our .NET project

Re: [WiX-users] MergeModules vs. WixLib

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Cicerone
You can probably just pretty print the wixlib files and inspect them directly – its just xml (unless you use the –bf option to bind files into it – in which case it’s a cabinet file with xml appended to the end).   Derek   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh

[WiX-users] rfc: replace IgnoreModularization with SuppressModularization attributes

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Cicerone
I’d like to propose replacing the element with more specific “SuppressModularization” attributes on the and elements.  This basically allows the developer to suppress modularization for the 2 specific scenarios in which we currently know about the need to suppress modularization.   It

Re: [WiX-users] Add/Remove Program Icon on Windows 2000

2006-07-31 Thread Jeremy Farrell
> From: Rob Mensching > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 09:06 > > > the add/remove program icon does not show up on Windows 2000. It is > > fine on Windows XP and win2K3. The icon is pointed to an icon file. > > Any ideas? > > I want to say I remember something about Win2K ARP requiring > the .ico

[WiX-users] Timed events

2006-07-31 Thread Magus
Right now I am trying to create a dialog that will basically time out of the user doesn't do anything after a give amount of time. When it times out I want to installation program to close. What type of action do I need to do in order to achieve this -- View this message in context: http://www

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-07-31 Thread Bob Arnson
Derek Cicerone wrote: That is an excellent point – what if we keep the ???... syntax just for Product/@Id in that case and go with the recommendations below for everything else? Any chance of a different syntax? @Id="*" maybe, keeping with the wildcard scheme? -- sig://boB

[WiX-users] Require License Agreement Dialog (no silent setups)

2006-07-31 Thread John Robbins
Hello, After an hour of Googling, I can't see how to disallow silent installs. The default WiX installs allow you to specify \q to MSIEXEC.EXE and you get a silent install. However, that allows you to skip checking the license agreement option, which my client doesn't like. What's the WiX magic I

Re: [WiX-users] Require License Agreement Dialog (no silent setups)

2006-07-31 Thread Bob Arnson
John Robbins wrote: > After an hour of Googling, I can't see how to disallow silent installs. > The default WiX installs allow you to specify \q to MSIEXEC.EXE and you > get a silent install. However, that allows you to skip checking the > license agreement option, which my client doesn't like. Wha

Re: [WiX-users] Require License Agreement Dialog (no silent setups)

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Cicerone
I've been thinking about adding a warning to the LaunchConditions parsing code in the compiler. In almost every case, you should add "Installed OR" to the beginning to ensure it only runs during initial install. Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] O

Re: [WiX-users] Require License Agreement Dialog (no silent setups)

2006-07-31 Thread Bob Arnson
Bob Arnson wrote: John Robbins wrote: After an hour of Googling, I can't see how to disallow silent installs. The default WiX installs allow you to specify \q to MSIEXEC.EXE and you get a silent install. However, that allows you to skip checking the license agreement option, which

Re: [WiX-users] WebServiceExtension Element

2006-07-31 Thread Don Tasanasanta
Has a solution come up for setting WebServiceExtensions?   __   Don Tasanasanta VIACK Corporation 425-605-7423   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joannic Laborde Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:19 AM To: Jim Swainst