Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam

> From: DEÁK JAHN, Gábor > > On Thu, 22 May 2008 10:26:27 -0700, Neil Enns wrote: > > Neil, > > > I was one of those people. It's painful. And I can figure out Wix... > > Come on, guys, all it takes is a single, emtpy e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and, I guess, a reply to a confirmation m

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On Thu, 22 May 2008 10:26:27 -0700, Neil Enns wrote: Neil, > I was one of those people. It's painful. And I can figure out Wix... Come on, guys, all it takes is a single, emtpy e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and, I guess, a reply to a confirmation mail. Couldn't be easier... Bye, Gábor -

[WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam

On Thu, 22 May 2008 07:41:17 -0700, Rob Mensching wrote: Rob, > Based on the feedback, I'm definitely looking into requiring people > to join the list to send mail. Before doing that, I want to make > sure it is easy and *clear* (something we obviously struggle with > the WiX documentation ) how

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Rob: > I've had a number of people suggest that finding the signup page via > SourceForge is very painful. SourceForge is painful, period . I signed up for this list because the SF interface to the list is absolutely horrible. Wix is free and the support graciously provided by you and others is

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That's exactly what I'm working on... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Starling, Keith Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:43 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more s

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EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Enns Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:26 PM To: Rob Mensching; Don Caton; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam I was one of those people. It's painful. And I can figure out Wix... Neil -Ori

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frustrating if you are just trying to ask a question. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Caton Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 08:29 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam

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a question. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Caton Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 08:29 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam Rob: Signing up for a forum or ma

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Rob: Signing up for a forum or mailing list is commonplace these days, and a trivial one-time inconvenience. If someone can't figure out how to join a mailing list, they're probably not going to have much success with Wix (or any type of programming for that matter). PLEASE require people to

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bad if > people thought they couldn't ask questions... > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 05:57 > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mai

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To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam Based on the feedback, I'm definitely looking into requiring people to join the list to send mail. Before doing that, I want to make sure it is easy and *clear* (some

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ad if people thought they couldn't ask questions... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 05:57 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => mor

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Was a decision ever made about what to do here? Rob dB. wrote: > Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I > wasn’t subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That’s > the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin > privi

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-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam I implemented the spam filter one of the original posters suggested (a bunch of Chinese/Russian words OR'd together), with the additional of "AND wix-users" to restrict it only to this list (it caught a few non-wix legiti

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il 22, 2008 5:16 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam Here's another vote for locking out non-subscribers. The spam isn't so bad if you read the list daily, but if you scan the list only occasionally to search for in

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; Rob Hamflett > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam > > There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup > interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You >

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To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam I think that having to subscribe to wix-users is a reasonable prerequisite for people wishing to post. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

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[WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if w

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DEXK JAHN, GXbor wrote: > I admin a list where new people are set to moderated until their > first post, then it can be decided whether to accept and liberate the > user or to remove it as spam. But this requires extra human work and > I don't know if SourceForge supports this at all (besides, ever

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John Vottero asked: What will keep the spammers from joining the list? Absolutely nothing, but spammers are (generally) a lazy bunch and won't do anything more than they have to. Most of the other SourceForge based groups I subscribe to are locked to subscriber only posting, and they have *signifi

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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:11:11 -0400, John Vottero wrote: John, > What will keep the spammers from joining the list? I admin a list where new people are set to moderated until their first post, then it can be decided whether to accept and liberate the user or to remove it as spam. But this requi

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Albert van Peppen Sent: 23 April 2008 10:48 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam Correctly if I am wrong but the member list of a mailling group can be scanned to kn

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...) Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Martin MacPherson Verzonden: woensdag 23 april 2008 0:22 Aan: John Vottero CC: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Onderwerp: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam They must be really desperate joining a wix-user mail

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@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam Jason Rivers wrote: > what's the point in having the mail list accessible to no subscribed > members anyway? > > if someone posts, people generally reply to the list, so the person that > hasn&#x

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g to post. > > Dale > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of Rob > Mensching > Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 > T

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es by doing this. No > spam filter there. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Quigg > Sent: den 22 april 2008 22:12 > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to publi

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: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam I think that having to subscribe to wix-users is a reasonable prerequisite for people wishing to post. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh

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They must be really desperate joining a wix-user mailing list ;) On 22/04/2008, John Vottero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your > > voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out > > if I should lock non-membe

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> If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your > voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out > if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant > to do that since it raises the bar for people just starting to get > involved with

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Here's another vote for locking out non-subscribers. The spam isn't so bad if you read the list daily, but if you scan the list only occasionally to search for information the spam becomes more of an annoyance. Improving the signal-to-noise ratio will be a good thing in the long run. (Do many no

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Rob wrote: I'm still very hesitant to [lock out posting by non subscribers] since it raises the bar for people just starting to get involved with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* ). While I understand the sentiment, the large quantities of spam probably reduce the number of people

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: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard. I'm still following this thread and trying to figure out if I should lock non-members out of the list. I'm still very hesitant to do that si

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#x27;s sometimes half of all email. > > Joel > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Sleightholm > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:48 PM > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix

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essage- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Sleightholm > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:48 PM > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam > > I feel this has got

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To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam At the current levels it is a minor annoyance for me, but we all know it will get a lot worse at which point I will have a problem with it. Is there nothing that SourceForge can do? I would

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t: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam At the current levels it is a minor annoyance for me, but we all know it will get a lot worse at which point I will have a problem with it. Is there nothing that SourceForge can do? I would have hoped that they would be working on

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: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: 22 April 2008 18:29 To: Rob Hamflett; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam If anyone has any other opinions on this topic, please do make your voice heard.

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d with WiX (and we don't need to make anything *harder* ). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hamflett Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 03:58 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to publ

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There's still a problem if you prefer to use the newsgroup interface (I'm using Thnderbird). You can't delete messages, and the best I think I can do is move them into a separate folder. That might have to suffice if we can't filter them out before they hit the list. Rob DEÁK JAHN, Gábor

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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:22:35 +0100, Martin MacPherson wrote: Martin, > I have been thinking the same. I found a post who suggested the > following if you use gmail: Instead of web-based mail services, just use a good, traditional e-mail client with proper Bayesian spam filter (eg. Thunderbird)

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o far I've voted no… but the spam does feel like it is getting worse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Beha

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ng worse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > Of dB. > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 05:51 > > > To: wix-users@lists

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rse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of dB. > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 05:51 > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: [WiX-users] wix maili

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rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of dB. > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 05:51 > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam > > > > > Looks like wix-users is open to pub

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TED] On Behalf Of dB. Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 05:51 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff

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I'd agree to that. I might then get back to reading some of the posts and lending some help, as it is at the moment, there's so much spam, I rarely take a look anymore. the spam is frustrating, and i'm sure I'm not the only one that almost ignores the list because of it. J PS - Sorry Rob, did a

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I'd really appreciate that. The signal-to-noise ratio has really taken a hit on this list recently. Rob dB. wrote: > Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I > wasn’t subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That’s > the reason why the list is

[WiX-users] wix mailing lists open to public => more spam

Looks like wix-users is open to public posting. I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to the list and was able to send stuff to it. That's the reason why the list is full of spam posts. Maybe someone with admin privileges can disable that? cheers dB. -dB. dblock.org