Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-12 Thread TimM
Well add my name to this request as well to having this work be put to the top of the list Since Purely WiX patching requires generation of the .wixpdb files I would like to know how these work if the install supports multiple languages? We had generation of the .wixpdb files turned off as at

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-11 Thread Blair Murri
.net > Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:40:53 + > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef > > Blair, this sounds really promising! Are there any examples of this that > you can share? > > Stephen Tunney > Nuance Communications, Inc. > Solutions

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-09 Thread Tunney, Stephen
) -Original Message- From: Blair Murri [mailto:os...@live.com] Sent: November-09-13 2:09 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef For whole file patching, you need to write a BinderFileManager and put it into an extension

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-09 Thread Blair Murri
ndline options. That would solve the issue for your build, and you won't have to enter the quagmire of IgnoreRange. > From: stephen.tun...@nuance.com > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 18:26:11 +0000 > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and Fe

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
essage- From: John Cooper Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 3:59 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Learn something new every day. Gave -delta a spin and it seems good. I'll have to give it a spin without PatchFa

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread John Cooper
59 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Learn something new every day. Gave -delta a spin and it seems good. I'll have to give it a spin without PatchFamily next and compare results. -- John Merryweather Cooper Bui

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Rob Mensching
: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 1:59 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Learn something new every day. Gave -delta a spin and it seems good. I'll have to give it a spin wi

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread John Cooper
-3434 x791011 jocoo...@jackhenry.com www.jackhenry.com -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 3:30 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Is this

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
riday, November 8, 2013 1:04 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Well I just did a test of Patch Creation using two different builds of our next release of our software, which the .msi files are 118 MB in size, and if I set the WholeFilesOnly="yes&

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Rob Mensching
Is this: pyro -delta ? -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 1:04 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Well I just did a test of Patch Creation using two different

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
Well I just did a test of Patch Creation using two different builds of our next release of our software, which the .msi files are 118 MB in size, and if I set the WholeFilesOnly="yes" the patch .msp size is 20MB. Now if I set the WholeFilesOnly="no" then the size of the .msp is only 3.8 MB. Way sma

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Tunney, Stephen
e WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef The latter. Binary diffs are non-trivial. For example of this, see how TFS handles binary check-ins. Like you, my builds version every rebuilt assembly every build. So, we're guaranteed at least several dozen "

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread John Cooper
Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.(r) Shawnee Mission, KS 66227 Office: 913-341-3434 x791011 jocoo...@jackhenry.com www.jackhenry.com -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 1:16 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
Okay Rob, taking out the PatchFamily does allow the patch to all updated files to be correctly patched and therefore does reduce the complexity of this method... Now if we look at Stephen's issue I can see this being a major concern as we also do the same thing where files are updated with version

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
Hey Stephen, Here is the contents for my sample build.bat file: @echo call melt.exe to fix the Version 1.0 wixpdb file so that we do not have to worry about original source files/folders. Melt.exe Ver1.0\product.msi -out Ver1.0Corrected\product.wixpdb -pdb Ver1.0\product.wixpdb -x Ver1.0Corrected

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Tunney, Stephen
[WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef I guess I that is what I get from following documentation examples like what is in the current Wix Toolset documentation: http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/patching/wix_patching.html Okay Rob I'll relook at my samples, make the modifica

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Tunney, Stephen
] Sent: November-08-13 12:49 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef I'm always a bit behind on patching stuff but it sounds like your adding PatchFamilies and that kicks in filtering. Filtering is designed to provide very

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Tunney, Stephen
November-08-13 12:37 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Okay I have done a bit more testing with Pure Wix and Melt and here is what I have found with my testing. Create Product.wxs with a bunch of components in root and I also cre

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
I guess I that is what I get from following documentation examples like what is in the current Wix Toolset documentation: http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/patching/wix_patching.html Okay Rob I'll relook at my samples, make the modifications, and start my patch testing again to verify

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread Rob Mensching
don't add PatchFamilies. Then the filtering pulls in everything that changed... like PCP does (IIRC). -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 9:37 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-08 Thread TimM
Okay I have done a bit more testing with Pure Wix and Melt and here is what I have found with my testing. Create Product.wxs with a bunch of components in root and I also create a fragment with is bunch more components. I then built this msi and associated .wixpdb file. I then updated some of th

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-07 Thread TimM
> On 28-Oct-13 22:05, Tunney, Stephen wrote: >> Ok, good to know. I have thousands of components though spread across a >> dozen features. Those features are shared amongst 8 products :) Stephen, how did you make out with your patch creation using this Pure-Wix method? We are just looking into

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-11-04 Thread Blair Murri
12:51 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Hey Bob, Thank you for your feedback, perhaps you could assist me with my problem then. It appears as though my work with Melt and Torch is ignoring me :( Here is a link to the

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-29 Thread Tunney, Stephen
] Sent: October-29-13 12:51 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Hey Bob, Thank you for your feedback, perhaps you could assist me with my problem then. It appears as though my work with Melt and Torch is ignoring me :( Here

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-29 Thread Tunney, Stephen
ttach the wixmst and wixpdbs if you'd like. Stephen -Original Message- From: Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com] Sent: October-28-13 11:18 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef I would choose "none of the above.&

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Arnson
or a feature on the fly > > Bob, do you have any insight into what my next move should be? This is a > very complicated set of products. > > Thanks for everything so far! WiX rocks!! :) > > -Original Message- > From: Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com] > Sent:

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Tunney, Stephen
users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef On 28-Oct-13 20:38, Tunney, Stephen wrote: > Adding DirectoryRef to the same boat as FeatureRef. I've added all > directoryRefs, including the one that includes the component that I > know has been u

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Arnson
On 28-Oct-13 20:38, Tunney, Stephen wrote: > Adding DirectoryRef to the same boat as FeatureRef. I've added all > directoryRefs, including the one that includes the component that I know has > been updated and still no dice. :( When used in patch family filtering, only a ComponentRef will includ

Re: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Tunney, Stephen
PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: [WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef Hello again everyone, Ok, so I've finally managed to get a patch generated. Good for me, I get a gold star :) Now I have a few questions 1) It looks as through using

[WiX-users] Purely WiX patching and FeatureRef

2013-10-28 Thread Tunney, Stephen
Hello again everyone, Ok, so I've finally managed to get a patch generated. Good for me, I get a gold star :) Now I have a few questions 1) It looks as through using FeatureRef in my PatchFamily doesn't work. The result is an empty CAB file and a pyro.exe error PYRO0227 2) If I s