Re: [WiX-users] ReserveCost doesn't appear to reserve disk space

2014-03-14 Thread Alain Forget
It wouldn't be perfect thanks to disk block sizes and so forth, but it'd be close enough for most things. What are your real requirements and what of your description is just thinking about how you might be able to make it work? On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Alain Forget wrote

Re: [WiX-users] ReserveCost doesn't appear to reserve disk space

2014-03-14 Thread Alain Forget
ment du Canada -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: March-14-14 12:57 PM To: 'General discussion about the WiX toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ReserveCost doesn't appear to reserve disk space Ah, so ReserveCost is to reserve space pe

Re: [WiX-users] ReserveCost doesn't appear to reserve disk space

2014-03-14 Thread Alain Forget
lowed to use the space. ------- Phil Wilson On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Alain Forget wrote: > Hi all, > > This may relate to Windows Installer in general (and not WiX specifically), > but when I use ReserveCost to reserve say 100MB for Directory A, I would > expe

[WiX-users] ReserveCost doesn't appear to reserve disk space

2014-03-14 Thread Alain Forget
Hi all, This may relate to Windows Installer in general (and not WiX specifically), but when I use ReserveCost to reserve say 100MB for Directory A, I would expect the amount of free space on the disk to be reduced by at least 100MB after installation, to signify that the overall disk space has

Re: [WiX-users] Unsubscribe

2013-11-15 Thread Alain Forget
. Quoting Alain Forget : > Unsubscribe yourself: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > -Original Message- > From: Chirayu Shishodiya [mailto:chirayu.shishod...@red-gate.com] > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 08:21 > To: WiX-users@lists.sourcefor

Re: [WiX-users] Unsubscribe

2013-11-15 Thread Alain Forget
Unsubscribe yourself: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -Original Message- From: Chirayu Shishodiya [mailto:chirayu.shishod...@red-gate.com] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 08:21 To: WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Unsubscribe Please unsubscribe

Re: [WiX-users] Creating multiple Minor Updates

2013-11-13 Thread Alain Forget
At the bottom of every e-mail, there is this link where you can do it: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users See the bottom of the page; put your e-mail address there and unsubscribe. -Original Message- From: Jacky Liang [mailto:jli...@kierantimberlake.com] Sent: Wednes

Re: [WiX-users] Custom Font Color for Dialog Subtitle

2013-11-13 Thread Alain Forget
You probably need to go into the WiX source (found here: https://wix.codeplex.com/downloads/get/58) and get the a copy of the .wxl and .xml files of the theme your installer uses. In my case, these were the RtfTheme files in the BalExtension. You can then edit these local copies however you

Re: [WiX-users] Wix Newbie

2013-11-07 Thread Alain Forget
On the other hand, there are a number of free WiX tutorials on the web. I mostly used this one: http://wix.tramontana.co.hu/tutorial It’s a bit dated (for example, when you get to major upgrades, see the MajorUpgrade element in the WiX documentation instead of what the tutorial teaches you), bu

Re: [WiX-users] Setup Testing

2013-10-24 Thread Alain Forget
We had a similar goal and we were unable to do what you want. Our solution was to write a program that periodically ensures the credentials are valid, and if they aren't, display a window that prompts for them. We then run this program as a custom action in the WiX package. If you find some sol

Re: [WiX-users] ow to get the current directory of msi is running from?

2013-10-08 Thread Alain Forget
How can you be sure launch.exe and set.ini will be there? Why not bundle them with the MSI using burn? (http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/bundle/) Alain -Original Message- From: ak m [mailto:wixak...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:14 To: General discussion for

Re: [WiX-users] Need some help with upgrade support in first version of MSI

2013-09-24 Thread Alain Forget
1) http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/xsd/wix/majorupgrade.html My MajorUpgrade element looks like this: So presumably your Product element has a Version attribute that would be something like "1.0.0". Say this is installed on client machines, and you need to upgrade them. You wou

Re: [WiX-users] Need some help with upgrade support in first version of MSI

2013-09-24 Thread Alain Forget
The MajorUpgrade tag is probably the easiest way to support upgrades. -Original Message- From: nkshirsagar [mailto:nkshirsa...@gmail.com] Sent: September 24, 2013 08:34 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need some help with upgrade support in first version of MSI I'

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-19 Thread Alain Forget
sts.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less? > > On 9/18/13 1:57 PM, Alain Forget wrote: > > Gaining knowledge on how code works is fine and has value, but at the end > > of the day, people have primary tasks they're trying

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
on) Bundle.wxs And has info here on how to customize UI: http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.co.uk/2008/08/customised-uis-for-wix.html -Original Message----- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: September-18-13 5:00 PM To: Steven Ogilvie; 'General discussion for Windows I

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
27;s in 3.8 I believe. A new window needs a custom BA. -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: September-18-13 5:35 PM To: Wesley Manning; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
ow the code works... As Wesley stated you can change minor things by the theme wxl/xml files But what you are suggesting is NOT minor, it is a major code change... Once again for checkboxes/radio buttons etc.. check out Neil's extended BA I have already included his codeplex link St

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
58 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less? It's not trivial to create a custom BA. It takes time and effort. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Alain Forget wrote: > I don't mean compile and setup tim

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
slide as a learning opportunity. This time, this thread just makes me mad. I encourage you to go understand the problem and volunteer some time to improve the WiX toolset yourself before suggesting that I help you again. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Alain Forget wrote: > Which I th

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
ba by changing the templates. But my minor changes are adding graphics, adding installer version, changing text size, etc. -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: September-18-13 5:02 PM To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.&#x

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
me a little while to grasp what the Extended BA is doing... Steve -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: September-18-13 4:02 PM To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
ctions how to build. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Alain Forget wrote: Is there a tutorial somewhere on where to get the stock BA's source, and how to make various changes to it? The only tutorial I found involved cracking open Visual Studio, and seemed to involve recompilin

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
start from scratch, just modify the stock one. -- Nicolás 2013/9/18 Alain Forget : > It just seems like going from the stock BA to rolling your own custom BA just > to either get rid of the UI or add a single text box, radio button, or > window/step seems extremely costly in time and ef

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
experience. That being said, WiX is open source, so anyone is free to contribute enhancements. -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:31 AM To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subj

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

2013-09-18 Thread Alain Forget
There seems to be a lot of demand for more control over installer and bootstrapper UIs. Just out of curiosity, is this being worked on for future WiX releases? -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:27 To: General dis

Re: [WiX-users] Major Upgrade Schedule Not Working?

2013-09-05 Thread Alain Forget
Marie, you need to unsubscribe yourself here: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -Original Message- From: Marie Gourmelon (Allegis Group SAS) [mailto:v-mag...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:02 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML tool

Re: [WiX-users] Launching Bootstrapper executable should only show the internal MSI interface.

2013-09-04 Thread Alain Forget
Binging "wix custom bootstrapper application tutorial" gives this: http://bryanpjohnston.com/2012/09/28/custom-wix-managed-bootstrapper-application/ It's a lot of work just to get rid of the bootstrapper UI, but...that's how it is, unfortunately. I decided to circumvent my problem rather than de

Re: [WiX-users] using WixUI_Advanced

2013-08-29 Thread Alain Forget
You can try, but I'm thinking a lot of references to things in the Commons are going to break. -Original Message- From: jo...@msli.com [mailto:jo...@msli.com] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 18:35 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] using Wi

Re: [WiX-users] using WixUI_Advanced

2013-08-29 Thread Alain Forget
While I was just doing something similar with WixUI_Minimal, the problem was because of this: ... NOT Installed ... NOT Installed I get similar errors as you if I don't comment out one of those two Show elements. Mysteriously, this creates no probl

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-08-29 Thread Alain Forget
What would be the absolute easiest way to have an MSI package that only displays a single dialog box with some text that we can set ourselves? -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 23:21 To: 'Hoover, Jacob'; 'General di

Re: [WiX-users] stop a service before uninstall

2013-08-29 Thread Alain Forget
Why aren't you using the ServiceInstall element to install your service? If there is any way at all to use it, instead of a CA, I think most of us would strongly recommend it. At the very leat, you'll eaily be able to stop your service before uninstall. -Original Message- From: nkshirsa

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-08-28 Thread Alain Forget
f it was out on wixtoolset.org, it would be a weekly 3.8 build which is not considered Stable. -----Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:45 PM To: 'Bruce Cran'; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-08-28 Thread Alain Forget
-- Bruce Sent from my iPhone On 28 Aug 2013, at 19:14, "Alain Forget" wrote: > Will this functionality be available on Monday (or sooner) at > http://wixtoolset.org/releases/ ? > > If so, how will I be able to add text to the Setup Complete box? My apologies >

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-08-28 Thread Alain Forget
X 3.8 if possible. > > -- > Bruce > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 28 Aug 2013, at 16:52, "Alain Forget" wrote: > >> I hope that's directed at Steven, because I don't know what that means (and >> I have yet to figure out where and

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-08-28 Thread Alain Forget
I hope that's directed at Steven, because I don't know what that means (and I have yet to figure out where and how to modify .wxl files). Alain -Original Message- From: Bruce Cran [mailto:br...@cran.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:39 AM To: General discussion for Windows Ins

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-08-28 Thread Alain Forget
> "If you can set bundle properties you can use that property's value as your > text, maybe..." Could you be more specific on how this might be achieved? > "...the WixStdBA bootstrapper needs changed to allow better text on the 'success' pages. " Nice to know this is on the wix-dev's radar, bu

Re: [WiX-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2013-08-27 Thread Alain Forget
ver even posted anything. How can this be turned off? Mark Sanchez Systems Developer SPEC Services, Inc. -----Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 3:40 PM To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: R

Re: [WiX-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2013-08-27 Thread Alain Forget
No. Go here to unsubscribe yourself: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -Original Message- From: msanc...@specservices.com [mailto:msanc...@specservices.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 18:26 To: WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-08-27 Thread Alain Forget
in -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 08:13 To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer Good question. I'm not sure exa

Re: [WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-08-27 Thread Alain Forget
Good question. I'm not sure exactly, but here’s some code snippets that what I'm guessing are UI-related: http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/BalExtension"; xmlns:util="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/UtilExtension"; > ... Obviously, we are using a custom theme (RtfTheme-Custom.

[WiX-users] Add text to final window in burn bootstrapper/installer

2013-08-26 Thread Alain Forget
Hi all, Our installer bundled with burn currently posts a simple "Setup Complete" message when the install is done. How can we add additional text on this last window when the install is complete? Thanks, Alain -- Int

Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0103 error where path is shorter than 255 characters and file is present.

2013-08-23 Thread Alain Forget
)KMI.IntelliDrive.ServicesHost.vshost.exe.config ? -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 16:56 To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0103 error where path is shorter than 255 characters and file is present

Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0103 error where path is shorter than 255 characters and file is present.

2013-08-23 Thread Alain Forget
You may already have verified this, but are you sure $(var.KMI.IntelliDrive.ServicesHost.TargetDir) is defined and points to the location you think it's supposed to point to? Alain -Original Message- From: Bodden, Doug (KMWCR) [mailto:doug.bod...@kantarmedia.com] Sent: Friday, August 2

Re: [WiX-users] [Wix]: Create silent MSI using Wix

2013-08-23 Thread Alain Forget
; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; 'Bruce Cran' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] [Wix]: Create silent MSI using Wix Technically that dialog is not part of MSI, its part of OS msiexec. -Original Message----- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: August-23-13

Re: [WiX-users] [Wix]: Create silent MSI using Wix

2013-08-23 Thread Alain Forget
- From: Bruce Cran [mailto:br...@cran.org.uk] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 13:51 To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [Wix]: Create silent MSI using Wix On 23/08/2013 15:20, Alain Forget wrote: > Don't WiX-built MSIs hav

Re: [WiX-users] [Wix]: Create silent MSI using Wix

2013-08-23 Thread Alain Forget
Don't WiX-built MSIs have no UI by default? See the second paragraph of http://wix.tramontana.co.hu/tutorial/user-interface So just follow the steps of the Getting Started tutorial, and don't do anything in the UI section? -Original Message- From: ak m [mailto:wixak...@gmail.com] Sent

Re: [WiX-users] Restore previous windows service if new installation is Failure

2013-08-19 Thread Alain Forget
Add the "Start" attribute to the ServiceControl element? Alain -Original Message- From: Андрій Цьок [mailto:andrey.t...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 13:35 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Restore previous windows service if ne

Re: [WiX-users] My posts in your spam....

2013-08-16 Thread Alain Forget
This seems to me to have posted just fine and not in my own spam. -Original Message- From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 15:04 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] My posts in your spam Apparently many of my posts are ar

Re: [WiX-users] IRC channel

2013-08-16 Thread Alain Forget
Cool! I wonder if there would be a way to send monthly chat logs to this mailing list for archiving purposes, so that answers could be later searchable (which I think is one of the best features about this list). -Original Message- From: Nicolás Alvarez [mailto:nicolas.alva...@gmail.com]

Re: [WiX-users] Fwd: Quicktime installer

2013-08-16 Thread Alain Forget
Get the installer for Quicktime and bundle it with your own installer using burn. See the Bundle element and go from there. Alain -Original Message- From: Michal Jirman [mailto:jirman.mic...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 06:20 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX

Re: [WiX-users] Wix and backward compatibility with Visual Studio setup project.

2013-08-14 Thread Alain Forget
Are you using the MajorUpgrade element? -Original Message- From: Андрій Цьок [mailto:andrey.t...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 08:23 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Wix and backward compatibility with Visual Studio setup project. After installing n

Re: [WiX-users] unsubscribe

2013-08-14 Thread Alain Forget
Try the bottom of this page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -Original Message- From: Mike Scott [mailto:mike.sc...@bbc.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 07:44 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] unsubscribe http://www.bbc.co.uk/ Thi

Re: [WiX-users] wixtoolset.org down?

2013-07-30 Thread Alain Forget
why. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Alain Forget wrote: > +1 > > -Original Message- > From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:36 > To: WiX Users > Subject: [WiX-users] wixtoolset.org down? > > I get a 503 when I attem

Re: [WiX-users] wixtoolset.org down?

2013-07-30 Thread Alain Forget
+1 -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:36 To: WiX Users Subject: [WiX-users] wixtoolset.org down? I get a 503 when I attempt to browse to wixtoolset.org, is it down for maintenance? -- Tony --

Re: [WiX-users] Newer version of the product is already installed error

2013-07-16 Thread Alain Forget
I think that if the UpgradeCode is the same in both products, that would be cause. If you want both applications to be treated as distinct, their UpgradeCodes must be distinct. Alain -Original Message- From: Greg Edwards [mailto:gedwa...@polariswireless.com] Sent: July 16, 2013 16:49

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-13 Thread Alain Forget
ause there's some kind of > > dependency whereby the MyClient service won't fully stop until its children > > processes have terminated, even though MyClient's execution does not > > actually dependent on those processes at all (and I in fact WANT it to > >

Re: [WiX-users] Bundle with wrong size in Add/Remove entry

2013-07-12 Thread Alain Forget
I wondered the same thing, but I think it makes sense as it is, since the all bundles for all installed programs are stored in C:/Windows/Installer for when modifications, repairs, and uninstalls are needed. Alain -Original Message- From: nianderneves [mailto:niander.ne...@gmail.com]

Re: [WiX-users] Windows updates

2013-07-11 Thread Alain Forget
Grab the appropriate Service Packs for the OSes you're supporting from http://search.microsoft.com/en-us/DownloadResults.aspx?q=service+pack , and Bundle them into an installer with burn? Sound like it could end up a pretty massive installer though, so you might want to look into the WiX elemen

Re: [WiX-users] Should GUIDs be the same in two packages that reference the same component?

2013-07-06 Thread Alain Forget
me in two packages that reference the same component? On 05-Jul-13 11:57, Alain Forget wrote: > I know the rule is that Components should always have unique GUIDs (at least, > I think that's the rule). Nope, it's way more complicated than that (as Rob's blog posts point out)

[WiX-users] Should GUIDs be the same in two packages that reference the same component?

2013-07-05 Thread Alain Forget
oth cases, should the two Packages use the same GUID, or different ones? The rule says no, but what I understand about Components and GUIDs says yes (see http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2003/10/18/component-rules-101). What do you say? Thanks, Alain ****

Re: [WiX-users] Custom action only on uninstall and not upgrade

2013-07-05 Thread Alain Forget
I think most of us use Properties like this: NOT Installed AND NOT WIX_UPGRADE_DETECTED AND NOT WIX_DOWNGRADE_DETECTED WIX_UPGRADE_DETECTED AND NOT (REMOVE="ALL") (REMOVE="ALL") AND UPGRADINGPRODUCTCODE Installed AND (REMOVE="ALL") AND NOT (WIX_UPGRADE_DETE

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-04 Thread Alain Forget
Interesting thought, and thanks for the feedback. It's worth taking a closer look at how MyClient is designed to make sure we didn't miss something that's causing this problem. Our service is designed similarly to how you describe. MyClient is a control process/thread that is an object containi

[WiX-users] How to quietly execute CA with admin privileges asyncronously?

2013-07-02 Thread Alain Forget
The only way I have found thus far to quietly run a CustomAction with admin privileges given to the installer is using this (taken from http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/qtexec.htm): . . . However, I want to run such a CA asynchronously, but setting Return="asyncNoWait" retu

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-02 Thread Alain Forget
those processes at all (and I in fact WANT it to stop/terminate, and it is coded as such, as far as I know). To those of you who understand processes and services better than I, does this make sense? Or is there no such parent-child dependency amongst processes/services? Alain -Original Me

Re: [WiX-users] Burn: Related Package ID

2013-07-02 Thread Alain Forget
+1: I have also noticed this or something similar. -Original Message- From: Adam Roper [mailto:adam.ro...@guidance.eu.com] Sent: July 2, 2013 08:46 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Burn: Related Package ID Hi, I have a Burn bundle that incorporates 9 other MSI pa

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-07-01 Thread Alain Forget
in the Chain today. However, a package in your chain may upgrade an existing package on the machine during install. Note2: Very screwy that a package would be detected per-user when it is really per-machine. That would be something to investigate further. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Al

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-30 Thread Alain Forget
I know about those, but how do I use them to prevent Burn from locking the existing files before it runs the installer package to MajorUpgrade? -Original Message- From: Phill Hogland [mailto:phogl...@rimage.com] Sent: June 30, 2013 20:54 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-29 Thread Alain Forget
WixBundleName = My Bundle v1.0.1 Installer [0ACC:11A0][2013-06-29T15:23:39]i410: Variable: WixBundleOriginalSource = C:\Windows\TEMP\MyBundleInstaller_v1.0.1.exe [0ACC:11A0][2013-06-29T15:23:39]i410: Variable: WixBundleProviderKey = {GUID4} [0ACC:11A0][2013-06-29T15:23:39]i410: Variable: WixBundl

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-29 Thread Alain Forget
en when the MSI is bundled with burn. Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening, why our own bundle installer (v1.0.1) is somehow holding/using the existing installed version (v1.0.0) of MyClient's files in use? Alain -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-28 Thread Alain Forget
open when doing the uninstall (but after stopping the service)? I seem to remember bugs in the snap in that either leaked handles or maintained an exclusive lock on the SCM that would exhibit this behavior. -----Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Friday,

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-28 Thread Alain Forget
hat it will be ok and the service will stop. If your java runtime has an explicit way to stop a Windows service and wait for it to actually finish, use that. Phil -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:14 AM To: 'General discu

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-28 Thread Alain Forget
spose(). Personally I wouldn't use anything asynchronous or of indeterminate length such as net stop in a cmd shell. If you're seeing something timing-related, that may be where the issue is. Even in C++ the code to stop a service is not complicated and is much more manageable than a c

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-28 Thread Alain Forget
s a "critical application" and it > doesn't realise that it's entirely under the control of my service, which > will stop it when requested. > > Does this sound plausible, given what you know about the RestartManager? Do > you know why it would just assume that cmd.e

Re: [WiX-users] Burn - Uninstall application from newer version of installer

2013-06-28 Thread Alain Forget
So long as the Bundles' UpgradeCode is identical, I would think a MajorUpgrade would uninstall the older version and install the new one. However, something beyond my installer knowledge may be going on, since I don't know what may be causing this line: [23D0:26C4][2013-06-28T10:38:09]w354: Una

Re: [WiX-users] TRnalations for DowngradeErrorMessage question

2013-06-27 Thread Alain Forget
I haven't looked into this myself, but I can't imagine how it would be automatically translated, so I'm guessing you would have to do localization yourself. -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: June 27, 2013 17:28 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subje

Re: [WiX-users] Creating separate entries in Add/Remove for each MSI in a bundle

2013-06-27 Thread Alain Forget
If you're using Burn, wouldn't you just be able to set the MsiPackages' Visible attribute to yes, and Permanent to yes (so that all the packages aren't automatically uninstalled if the Bundle is uninstalled)? -Original Message- From: nianderneves [mailto:niander.ne...@gmail.com] Sent: J

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-27 Thread Alain Forget
why it would just assume that cmd.exe won't be stopped by the uninstaller (maybe because it wasn't installed by our installer)? Alain -----Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: June 27, 2013 14:12 To: 'General discussion for Windows Install

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-27 Thread Alain Forget
nstaller-problem-why-does-restartmanager-mark-service-as-rmcritical-and-no/8147540#8147540 Basically, you can 'lie' about the custom action and mark it as immediate instead of deferred. The drawback is that if your install fails and rollsback, the service you've shut down will sti

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-21 Thread Alain Forget
r the problem (and hopefully a solution)? Alain -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: June 21, 2013 12:14 To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue I've found a number of

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-21 Thread Alain Forget
uninstaller doesn't/can't dig deeper into what's controlling what to realise the files are locked by java, which is run by our services' exes? Even if that's the case, I have yet to see a reply on how to solve the problem. Alain -Original Message- From: Alain F

Re: [WiX-users] Target directory issue with windows xp/ windows 7

2013-06-21 Thread Alain Forget
64-bit Windows Vista and beyond places 32-bit programs into Program Files (x86), and 64-bit programs into Program Files. It's just the convention they've adopted going forward with 64-bit operating systems. I do think I've seen 32-bit programs sneak themselves into Program Files on a 64-bit OS,

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-21 Thread Alain Forget
ience using WiX or the Windows Installer with > JSL or a Java-based service are best positioned to know how to solve this. > > Alain > > -Original Message- > From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] > Sent: June 19, 2013 19:12 > To: 'Hoover, Jacob'; &

Re: [WiX-users] Give NetFx40Redist a local download path?

2013-06-21 Thread Alain Forget
I would recommend you unsubscribe yourself from said "useless stuff": https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -Original Message- From: Wesley Wells [mailto:wwe...@midsouthmetalsupply.com] Sent: June 21, 2013 10:39 To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-20 Thread Alain Forget
Anyone out there have any ideas about our problem below? I'm thinking anyone with experience using WiX or the Windows Installer with JSL or a Java-based service are best positioned to know how to solve this. Alain -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu]

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-19 Thread Alain Forget
exe of each of the services (unique copy for each) and their related ServiceInstall/ServiceControl elements in a component. -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:16 PM To: Hoover, Jacob; 'General discussion for Windows In

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-19 Thread Alain Forget
alling the new version). Personally I would place each file in its own component, in case you ever want to do a minor upgrade or patch in the future. -Original Message----- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:51 PM To: Hoover, Jacob; 'General di

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-19 Thread Alain Forget
n you would have to have RemoveExistingProducts scheduled early, and you could only ever do major upgrades (unless you are going to recompile their exe after incrementing the version info). -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:12

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-19 Thread Alain Forget
You're quite right; after installing our software, there is a separate jsl.exe process for each of our services. One disturbing thing I've noticed is that if I then reboot the computer after installing our software, then open the Task Manager and press the Show Processes from All Users button, t

Re: [WiX-users] Java Program Installer

2013-06-18 Thread Alain Forget
It doesn't sound like your problem is with Java being a service, but in case you have trouble with however your Java programs are bundled into exes to run as services and are looking for an alternative, thus far I've found the Java Service Launcher (http://jslwin.sourceforge.net/) works very wel

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-18 Thread Alain Forget
Hm, interesting. Assuming you are right and this is what's going on, I don't think all four services are sharing jsl.exe, because it is only used to create (or remove) Java-based services. Wouldn't the exe actually be java.exe, because my services are Java programs? If so, I'm not sure how to te

[WiX-users] Uninstall restart issue

2013-06-15 Thread Alain Forget
I'm still wrestling with this request to restart on uninstall. To recap, I have an MSI that when I install it, and then try to uninstall it, it usually tells the user that some of the files to be uninstalled are in use and will require a reboot. However, this should not be, because the services

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-05 Thread Alain Forget
ADE_DETECTED WIX_UPGRADE_DETECTED AND NOT (REMOVE="ALL") Installed AND (REMOVE="ALL") AND NOT (WIX_UPGRADE_DETECTED OR UPGRADINGPRODUCTCODE) Installed AND NOT WIX_UPGRADING AND NOT WIX_UNINSTALLING AND NOT UPGRADINGPRODUCTCODE (REMOVE="AL

Re: [WiX-users] Can wix monitor child process ?

2013-06-05 Thread Alain Forget
+1 I'm imagining a sequence of CustomActions timed such that each one installs the files (i.e. runs an EXE package, if I understand your case) in the order you want, and you'd want to run the uninstallation versions of those CAs in reverse order for uninstall. Alain -Original Message-

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
pgrade Code, Attributes) -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 4:53 PM To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue >> But (apparently) just running the

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
nd from a batch file with the "/L*v" logging option to ensure you get all the logging and see what that shows (it shouldn’t be any different from the burn logs). Neil -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: 04 June 2013 22:09 To: Neil Sleightho

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
see an entry containing "Applying execute package:" and after that the msiexec command line. Neil -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: 04 June 2013 17:32 To: Neil Sleightholm; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.';

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
t means that the action completed, not that it found a product. What you need to see is something that says an older ProductCode was detected, as above. Phil -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:35 AM To: 'Phil Wilson'

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
ut in-use files or restarts or services will cause that. Phil -----Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:06 AM To: 'Phil Wilson'; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uni

Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
er bootstrapper at the time). Neil -----Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: 04 June 2013 16:36 To: Neil Sleightholm; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Y

Re: [WiX-users] [WIX-users] Asking a website about the latest release of a product [P]

2013-06-04 Thread Alain Forget
;t mention it but it is in the help file, go to the index and look for "Update Element". This is only a reference to the URL, you have to write the code to handle it. Neil -Original Message- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: 04 June 2013 16:42 To: 'Steven O

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