Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Christopher Painter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmmm... > >   > > >http://www.productbeautiful.com/2008/05/02/why-product-management-is-open-sources-fatal-flaw/ Nice read, I can sympathize with both sides. Howerver the users are not willing to pay and so why should I care as developer. I do as I

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-28 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Kelly Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Friedrich, > I understand your pain, but I'm not a member of the WiX team, I'm > not an employee of MS, and I have no involvement with the MSI team, I wrote it's not a personal attack, but the fact that we always have to use "may work that way", "I think"

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-28 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Rob Mensching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think that's rather unfair. I do not understand the problem that > Colin is having. There really haven't been enough details (or I > may have missed them) about what is being registered, how it is being > registered or what the whole thing is doing.

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Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Kelly Leahy
Christopher, Perhaps you could put together your list of 'best case' requirements for a bootstrapper? It seems like building one isn't going to be that difficult, but it also seems that the project is starved of good requirements and direction around the bootstrapper. Once there's a good list

Re: [WiX-users] how to configure application pool to run as integrated mode with WIX iis extension

2008-05-28 Thread zhisheng huang
Could anyone help? Looks like the application pool can only be created in classic mode. thanks, Zhisheng From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: how to configure application pool to run as integrated mode with WIX iis extensionDate: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:19:17 -0400 Hi, how to configure

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Bob Arnson
Neil Sleightholm wrote: I don't think people read beta as "not functionally complete", I think they read "full of bugs". I agree that it is missing some very important features but in my experience what is there is very reliable. I seem to remember v2 going through a few releases where the c

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Bob Arnson
Christopher Painter wrote: > Hmmm... > > http://www.productbeautiful.com/2008/05/02/why-product-management-is-open-sources-fatal-flaw/ My question stands: What does power have to do with it? Product/project/program management isn't about wielding authority, it's about building consensus. --

Re: [WiX-users] FileSharePermission and Permission

2008-05-28 Thread Bob Arnson
zhisheng huang wrote: A newbie's stupid question. What is the difference between FileSharePermission and Permission? Could someone please explain the exact meaning of the following code? Permission manages the NTFS security for the folder (Security tab in Explorer); FileSharePermission manage

[WiX-users] FileSharePermission and Permission

2008-05-28 Thread zhisheng huang
Hi, A newbie's stupid question. What is the difference between FileSharePermission and Permission? Could someone please explain the exact meaning of the following code?

Re: [WiX-users] check memory, cpu, and screen resolution

2008-05-28 Thread Alexander Shevchuk
Have you tried the following properties: - PhysicalMemory (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370818(VS.85).aspx) - VirtualMemory (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372520(VS.85).aspx) - Intel (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369552(VS.85).a

Re: [WiX-users] check memory, cpu, and screen resolution

2008-05-28 Thread Rob Mensching
Uhh, the Windows Installer has all kinds of properties for that type of information. PhysicalMemory, VirtualMemory, Intel, Intel64, Msix64, ScreenX, ScreenY. I recommend reading the MSI SDK. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of YungWei Chen Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 20

[WiX-users] check memory, cpu, and screen resolution

2008-05-28 Thread YungWei Chen
Hi, I couldn't find any useful information on how to get memory, cpu, and screen resolution in the mailing list so I'm wondering, is it still not supported? Is there any workaround? How do most people do instead given the fact that they are unable to detect such information using Wix? Than

Re: [WiX-users] Build Wix v3.4123 Issues

2008-05-28 Thread Eva, Mark E (ESL Lab-Boise)
I don't really need Votive at this time. My goal was to look at making an enhancement to Heat. But first I wanted to make sure I would successfully build WiX without any changes. Many days later I am still not there Are you suggesting I remove votive2008 from the wix.build? Thanks, Mar

Re: [WiX-users] Build Wix v3.4123 Issues

2008-05-28 Thread Rob Mensching
Yeah, totally forgot all that stuff was in make.bat. As for the build failure, sorry, you're in Votive land and I'm not deeply familiar with all the ins and outs of that. Justin is better able to answer those questions. I thought the build would ignore Votive if you didn't have the VS SDK ins

Re: [WiX-users] converting .reg to .wxs in WiX 3.0

2008-05-28 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I don't think heat can do this but tallow from v2 can: tallow -reg file.reg file.wxs The output should work ok in v3 (or WixCop will fix it). Neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pally Sandher Sent: 28 May 2008 18:53 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [WiX-users] Build Wix v3.4123 Issues

2008-05-28 Thread Eva, Mark E (ESL Lab-Boise)
Thanks Rob. I was referencing make.bat file. :: :: In order to fully build WiX, you must have the following Frameworks and :: SDKs installed: ::* NAnt version 0.86 beta nightly (2008-02-10-0.86 or later) ::* .

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I don't think people read beta as "not functionally complete", I think they read "full of bugs". I agree that it is missing some very important features but in my experience what is there is very reliable. I seem to remember v2 going through a few releases where the community was asked whether the

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Christopher Painter
Hmmm... http://www.productbeautiful.com/2008/05/02/why-product-management-is-open-sources-fatal-flaw/ Bob Arnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Christopher Painter wrote: > I know a very good product manager that would probably volunteer. The > question is, would the engineers yield the p

Re: [WiX-users] Build Wix v3.4123 Issues

2008-05-28 Thread Rob Mensching
The WiX.chm "Building WiX" has the list of external SDKs that you must have installed to build fully. The other issues (besides the paths not being set correctly) are bugs, please do feel free to open them on SourceForge so we are sure to fix them. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

[WiX-users] converting .reg to .wxs in WiX 3.0

2008-05-28 Thread Pally Sandher
Hi, I'm using v3.0.4116.0 currently (installing v3.0.4123.0 first thing tomorrow morning). I have a problem with the COM registration info heat.exe generates for one of our executables (not written by me). It doesn't seem to get all the required entries. The generated code is as follows: http://

[WiX-users] Installing drivers with subdirectories

2008-05-28 Thread Richard Amos
John, Thanks for the response. If I create two "ordinary" components for the subdirectories then they don't get copied to the DriverStore directory so that inf file can't find them. And if I add the difx tag to the subdirectories, the install fails. I just can't seem to get the subdirectories i

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-28 Thread Rob Mensching
I think that's rather unfair. I do not understand the problem that Colin is having. There really haven't been enough details (or I may have missed them) about what is being registered, how it is being registered or what the whole thing is doing. At this point in time, it sounds like there is

Re: [WiX-users] Build Wix v3.4123 Issues

2008-05-28 Thread Kelly Leahy
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vsx/default.aspx Not sure if it's what you need, but it wouldn't surprise me. "Eva, Mark E (ESL Lab-Boise)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/2008 10:33 AM To Kelly Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "wi

Re: [WiX-users] Build Wix v3.4123 Issues

2008-05-28 Thread Eva, Mark E (ESL Lab-Boise)
I am running VS Team System 2008 Team Suite - ENU I thought it had everything. I will look for the SDK. Thanks, Mark From: Kelly Leahy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:23 AM To: Eva, Mark E (ESL Lab-Boise) Cc: wix-users@lists.source

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Brian Rogers
IMHO, with an open source project there is no such thing as a shipping version. I know that statement is going to bring a vast amount of feedback but here is the deal. There is no REAL support. Compared to commercial products that you can pay to have bugs fixed or work done. In all honesty, the WIX

Re: [WiX-users] Build Wix v3.4123 Issues

2008-05-28 Thread Kelly Leahy
looks like you might be missing VSIP (the visual studio SDK)? "Eva, Mark E (ESL Lab-Boise)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/2008 10:21 AM To "wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net" cc Subject [WiX-users] Build Wix v3.4123 Issues [exec] Done building target "VsTemp

[WiX-users] Build Wix v3.4123 Issues

2008-05-28 Thread Eva, Mark E (ESL Lab-Boise)
[exec] Done building target "VsTemplatePathsTarget" in project "Votive2008.csproj" -- FAILED. [exec] [exec] Done building project "Votive2008.csproj" -- FAILED. [exec] [exec] Build FAILED. See attached details in The following is a list of all issues I have had tryin

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Martin MacPherson
I understand the pain of trying to convince managers of anything that isn't in black and white but as far as I can see the Wix code is of beta quality ie..not functionally complete. It would problem be a bit irresponsible to paint it otherwise... Rob, What's the deal for the community getting invo

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I would like to make a suggestion: Could the beta tag on v3 be replaced with something less emotive. I am having problems convincing managers to accept v3 because of the beta tag, I think the code is more than that and has so much more than v2 that is worth adopting. I think if we have to wait fo

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Bob Arnson
Christopher Painter wrote: > I know a very good product manager that would probably volunteer. The > question is, would the engineers yield the power in an open source > environment? What does power have to do with it? -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ --

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-28 Thread Kelly Leahy
Can you reproduce this in a tiny MSI that only has one component (or just has the registry settings)? Maybe some other folks can help you diagnose the problem if you can provide a sample. Colin Bleckner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/2008 01:36 AM To Kelly Leahy <[EM

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-28 Thread Kelly Leahy
Friedrich, I understand your pain, but I'm not a member of the WiX team, I'm not an employee of MS, and I have no involvement with the MSI team, so I'm basically on the same side of the 'problem' as you are. To be totally honest, I haven't found an installation tool I like YET. The thing I do

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2008-05-28 Thread Претензия потребителя
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Re: [WiX-users] 3.0.4123.0 wix_x64.msi install - Votive does not properly detect when source files have changed

2008-05-28 Thread Andy Kwak
Yesterday I noticed this also happened once with my x86 installation as well. However, after closing the solution and reopening it was picking up my changes again. It happened consistently with the x64 MSI, though. On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Jason Ginchereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > N

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Evans, Jim
For what it's worth, I can only echo the comments of those who support the idea of including the bootstrapper framework before declaring WiX v3 "released". I'm very much a novice at installation development, though wix-users has been an incredible resource for me to ramp up my personal knowledge ba

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Re: [WiX-users] service fail to install due to networkServiceaccount

2008-05-28 Thread Holmgren Mathias
Try this: Account="NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService" Complete example that works on my machine (tm): If you need to set additional disk access permissions, check out /Mathias From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Perlman Sent:

Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date

2008-05-28 Thread Christopher Painter
I know a very good product manager that would probably volunteer. The question is, would the engineers yield the power in an open source environment? Bob Arnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: dB. wrote: You all speak like a bunch of engineers :) There are rarely enough program

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2008-05-28 Thread Юридический семинар
"ЗАКОН О ЗАЩИТЕ ПРАВ ПОТРЕБИТЕЛЯ": (применение в интересах компаний-ответчиков, против потребителя) Семинар-практикyм. 4-5 июня 2008 г., Москва Тел.: 925-8871 Законодательство РФ всегда было на стороне потребителей. Поправки от 25 октября 07г. сделали потребителя еще более всемогущим. - К

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Re: [WiX-users] wix 3.0.4123 custom action templates

2008-05-28 Thread Dominik Guder
Jason Ginchereau wrote: > > The templates were installed properly, but I think I know the problem: the > .vstemplate files are marked with a version that is too new for VS2005 to > recognize. They need to be version 2.0.0. > > Can you try this... In notepad, VS, or any text editor, open each of

Re: [WiX-users] My installer ate my file

2008-05-28 Thread Valentijn Makkenze
John, You're right light.exe replaces the default version, I just checked my msi with orca and found the 'old' version number there. At the time I made this change I also fixed something in the setup so it always does a major upgrade, that probably solved my problem. Good luck, Valentijn Makk

Re: [WiX-users] Trouble using CloseApplication CA

2008-05-28 Thread Ryan O'Neill
That may not be a custom action problem at all. I regularly run VS as admin under Vista and you can't even drag a file from the desktop and drop it in to VS as it blocks you. I think these processes are protected under Vista so that they are not easily exploitable by trojans trying to escalate

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-28 Thread Colin Bleckner
Hrm, I didn't think that was the case, but I am using a custom UI and thought maybe I was somehow screwing up the timing with that. To be safe I switched to WixUI_Minimal UI and tried things out. Still no luck. I've become so upset over the whole thing that I spent the evening rewriting the

Re: [WiX-users] Installing driver when the installer files includesubdirectories

2008-05-28 Thread John Hall
Richard, Just create normal components for the two subdirectories, and a third component just containing the INF file and the difx attributes, and then add all three to the same feature. I think that the difx stuff only has to be attached to the INF file. Regards, John _ From

[WiX-users] custom action

2008-05-28 Thread aditi joshi
I have written vb script in which i set value to session property .But i dont get that value in wxs file what could be the reson do i need to first create this session property in wxs file ? - This SF.net email is sponsored by:

Re: [WiX-users] Automatic major upgrade installation of application

2008-05-28 Thread Holmgren Mathias
Thanks guys! Got it now. Much appreciated. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilson, Phil Sent: den 27 maj 2008 18:34 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Automatic major upgrade installation of application I

Re: [WiX-users] Create EXE wrapper around my MSI?

2008-05-28 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Kelly Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It sounds like your registration is happening in the wrong 'stage' of the > install...  Just because you're > elevated in some places, it doesn't mean the entire run of the install is > elevated.  I think the elevation > only occurs during the installexe