Re: [BAWUG] introduction, wap11: recommend for or against?

2002-07-23 Thread Moebius
Lets face it, the WAP11 is basically a el cheapo barely functional AP.. It you intend to do anything interesting, forget about it.. it's not worth the hastle. Try one of the cool linux AP's like the Teletronics boxes, or invest in Cisco or Orinoco.. - Original Message - From: "Gene" <[EMAI

Re: [BAWUG] introduction, wap11: recommend for or against?

2002-07-23 Thread Moebius
ese websites and learn. would you be able > to tell me how much i'd pay for say the bottom range of > the Teletronics/Cisco or Orinoco units? and what would > be a representative model number here? > > thanks, > michael > > > On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Moebius wrote: > &

RE: [BAWUG] goofball comments about reflectors

2002-09-20 Thread Moebius
If you look at the feedhorn design in many parabolic antennas they have a dipole element at the feed point.. So basically you are taking an omni-directional dipole radiator and making it directional (high-gain) by placing it at the focus of a parabolic reflector dish.. But if you want high gain o

RE: [BAWUG] goofball comments about reflectors

2002-09-20 Thread Moebius
The best example of this of course is earth-moon-earth propagation.. If you point a high gain antenna at the moon, you will hear yourself about 2 seconds later on the echo return (The moon is approximately 250,000 miles away from the earth, and radio waves travel at 186,282 miles per second. A sig

Re: [BAWUG] Cisco Bridges

2002-09-26 Thread Moebius
Ulisses, BR350 and BR342 bridges have incompatible spanning tree protocols.. BR350's can only wirelessly associate with other BR350's, and BR342's can only associate with other BR342's... You need another BR350 in your diagram so it looks like this: 1. BR350 - Root mode |

RE: [BAWUG] AP350 Problem

2002-09-27 Thread Moebius
You are not doing anything wrong.. It is cisco trying to force you to buy BR350's or WGB352's for wireless bridging.. In my wireless network I tried using LINKSYS WAP11's on the customer side as a bridge.. I had limited success if I set the MAC address of the WAP11 and the NAT device attached to

RE: [BAWUG] AP350 Problem

2002-09-27 Thread Moebius
According to Cisco.. An AP352 can only bridge to WGB352's A BR350 can bridge to WGB352 and other BR350's -Original Message- From: Ulisses [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:49 AM To: Moebius; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [BAWUG] AP350 Problem

Re: [BAWUG] build-it-yourself

2002-10-01 Thread Moebius
It is hard to be a $60 PC card dude.. Why don't you go onto e-bay and find someone dumping an old WAP11 for $20. - Original Message - From: "Peter Dirksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: [BAWUG] build-it-yourself > > Is it

Re: [BAWUG] 802.11b ROAMING - Channels settings

2002-10-21 Thread Moebius
One AP should be on channel 1, one on channel 6, and one on channel 11.. this will eliminate interference between the three APs.. should be no downside to this arrangement. - Original Message - From: "Stefano Y" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bawug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Se

RE: [BAWUG] Cisco 350 bridge w/Aironet 340 - WEP?

2002-11-08 Thread Moebius
Workgroup bridges DO participate in the STP.. and 340 series WGBs are not compatible with 350 Series Bridges.. Trust me I have tried.. They do wonderful things that corrupt the STP and take down everyone on your network until you unhook them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mai

RE: [BAWUG] What is Cometa

2002-12-09 Thread Moebius
I sat in on the investor call for Cometa.. Cometa aims to deploy 20k access points in the United States by sometime in 2004. They used a metric of having an access point within 5 minutes of anyone in the United States (it was a little more complicated, but that was the gist). They will not offer se

RE: [BAWUG] Cross-Bay link

2002-12-11 Thread Moebius
>From a simple perspective.. I can see packets from sites at Stanford at my home in the Berkeley hills.. quite a long path! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Pozar Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:00 PM To: Robert R. Ballecer, SJ Cc:

Re: [BAWUG] Linksys Repeater?

2003-01-16 Thread Moebius
This product sounds like a waste of good money. Very little gain if you start out with a 100mW signal - Original Message - From: "Tim Pozar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Linksys Repeater? > > From: Schmidt, Kev

Re: [BAWUG] Bay Area wireless shop?

2003-01-27 Thread Moebius
HRO doesn't have anything other than some 2.4Ghz Comet verticals in stock last I checked. - Original Message - From: "Alex Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Bay Area wireless shop? > I'm not sure if they ca

Re: [BAWUG] Hyperlinktech planar phased array antenna questions

2003-01-27 Thread Moebius
These are great antennas for CPE installs, they have good gain, a 30 degree beamwidth so they are easy to aim, small 8.5x8.5 inches, low wind loading, easy to mount to a house, be it stucco or wood. I have about 15 of them (Arc Wireless not Hypergain) installed and have had no trouble with them in

[BAWUG] Spectrum Analyzer, multipath analysis, SWR

2003-02-06 Thread Moebius
All,     I am looking for a solution that will allow me to perform SWR measurements on new cable/antenna installs, and also give me signal strength, and spectrum analysis capabilities for 802.11b/a.. All of the gear I have looked at (Anritsu S332, Rohde & Schwarz FSH3, BV Yellowjacket) is pr

RE: [BAWUG] do repeaters break WEP?

2003-02-14 Thread Moebius
This does not break WEP... A repeater receives a packet, and then retransmits the packet. In the process it opens the packet, and then rebundles it for transmission. It goes through the WEP Decode and Encode process when it does this. If you are using TKIP and MIC extensions it even changes the WEP

Re: [BAWUG] high latency on wireless links

2003-02-18 Thread Moebius
I see latencies of ~3ms per radio hop using cisco gear.. These are real world links in high RF environments, but they also have awesome S/N ratios on the links with margins in excess of 40db. As you approach the noise floor, retries will increase, with 3ms being added per retry. Here is a one hop

RE: [BAWUG] looking for East Bay peering partner

2003-02-24 Thread Moebius
If you can see the KPFA tower I can provide you with service.. ..Peter Kranz 510-207- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John D. Blair Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BAWUG] looking for East Bay pe

RE: [BAWUG] Cisco Aironet and long distances

2003-02-27 Thread Moebius
Supposedly you need to switch to the BR350 products over long distances to take advantage of the timing features where you can specify distance.. not sure if this "feature" actually causes wgb350's and AP's to break over similar distances... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mail

Re: [BAWUG] 2 Cisco 350 Quickies

2003-03-10 Thread Moebius
> 1. I have 2 Cisco 350 AP's and I need to do a point 2 point link @ 500 Ft. > apart for a few days, what would be the best way to configure these or can > they even work as a bridge? AP to AP bridging is not possible.. sorry. -- general wireless list, a bawug thing [un]s

RE: [BAWUG] Beacon interval on Cisco BR350

2003-06-08 Thread Moebius
Cisco is currently recommending beacon intervals of up to 4000.. This is due a bug in the current firmware where you get constant re-association messages with low beacon intervals. Purported to be fixed in the next firmware release. The beacon intervals is the amount of time between beacons announ

RE: [BAWUG] Beacon interval on Cisco BR350

2003-06-09 Thread Moebius
The downside to a long beacon interval is that clients don't see becon messages as often (which is how clients figure out which APs are available). This can slow down the initial association to the access point, and is usually only a problem in highly mobile networks.. i.e. mobile.. I have not had

RE: [BAWUG] Why might a 5 mile link degrade during hot weather?

2003-06-17 Thread Moebius
You can also trying moving the antenna on the roof closer to the edge... the heat rising from the roof could be an issue.. ever notice on a hot day the mirage from the rising heat distorts light.. it does the same thing to radio waves, causing strange reflection and propagation conditions... --

RE: [BAWUG] BroadBand in Car

2003-07-01 Thread Moebius
Alvarion has a mobile product for such uses.. I believe it have a 3MB/s data rate. You could ask Patrick for details... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rituraj Dewan Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BAWUG

RE: [BAWUG] Which AP's can tune ack window?

2003-07-03 Thread Moebius
Cisco BR350's have a tuneable ACK window, in 1km increments.. -- general wireless list, a bawug thing [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

RE: [BAWUG] Cell phone arrays and WiFi

2003-07-08 Thread Moebius
Shouldn't be problem at all.. They are in the 800Mhz/1.9Ghz range.. not harmonically related with 2.4Ghz.. If it does cause a problem something is broken.. -- general wireless list, a bawug thing [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

RE: [BAWUG] Cell phone arrays and WiFi

2003-07-09 Thread Moebius
Have you used a spectrum analyzer to see if it is in-band interference? If it is out-of-band, a narrow band-pass filter will make the cell site go buh bye.. If it is in-band, the cellular guys may need to install a filter. I have had UHF and VHF systems sitting right next to high power pager tra

RE: [BAWUG] DC Injector Grounding

2003-07-09 Thread Moebius
It should be grounded to an earth ground for lightning protection. Common sources are via the cold water pipes or better, a ground rod driven into the ground. Most data centers should have a good ground source avail, as it is required for many types of power conditioning equipment, air handlers, e

RE: [BAWUG] Fixed Wireless

2003-07-16 Thread Moebius
I have used Electrocomm for some time and been very happy with them.. Tessco seems to have a good selection as well.. but they are quite a bit larger than Electrocomm.  Peter J. Kranz (IBM) AT&T Wireless MMS / Network & Systems Phone: (510) 207- Text: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail: mai

RE: [BAWUG] Building the Ultimate Enclosure

2003-08-11 Thread Moebius
Try Purcell.. they have amazing cabinets with Dual fans, heaters, ever A/C options.. they cost $, but they are like no other.. Peter J. Kranz (IBM) AT&T Wireless MMS / Network & Systems Phone: (510) 207- Text: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Mess

RE: [BAWUG] Future of wireless

2003-08-15 Thread Moebius
What a horrible corruption of a good paper that second link is.. The experience showed that quantum states can be encoded and transmitted via light over long distances (across a river). The system ran at 45bits/second and only worked at night. Basically, they are experiencing with using quantum sta

RE: [BAWUG] Oakland wireless access?

2003-08-15 Thread Moebius
Geoff, DarkerSun covers that area, but users are required to share bandwidth costs, so it is not free.. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Galitz Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BAWUG]

RE: [BAWUG] Atheros announcement

2003-09-15 Thread Moebius
Too bad the noise floor in most parts the bay area is at around -95 -> -85 these days... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Pozar Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:47 PM To: Julian Bond Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Atheros a

RE: [BAWUG] A WISP for Pollock Pines, BARWN extension?

2003-09-23 Thread Moebius
1) Where can I find a driver, horn or whatever, to drive a large satellite dish for the link to the valley.  From the comments I take it that 2.4/5.7 is not clear for long links.  For a 10 foot dish the gains are around 36/43 dB but will the path loss eat up the gain of 5.7? I don’t think you will

RE: [BAWUG] WISP in EPA?

2003-09-29 Thread Moebius
Jim, If you can see Oakland or the Oakland hills I can offer wireless connections of up to 455 MBs to your facility. Costs for a simple 2.4 Ghz no-CIR (shared BW) circuit is $95/month.. CIR (dedicated BW) Circuits start at $395 for 1MB/s CIR with decreasing costs per additional MB requested

RE: [BAWUG] dealing with spectrum crowding and interference

2003-10-13 Thread Moebius
As the owner of all of the DarkerSun access points in the Berkeley area, I can provide some data and perspective as to what the Marina is seeing: 1) I noticed the the Berkeley marina SSIDs showing up about 2 weeks ago.. 2) All of my Berkeley AP's have been in place for over a year now.. We provid

RE: [BAWUG] beacon frames and channels

2003-10-13 Thread Moebius
Nope... Perhaps you have setup your AP to 'Search for best channel' and it is moving itself around the the lower utilization channel on a regular basis? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Douglass Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:22 PM T

RE: [BAWUG] cisco ripping me off?

2003-10-20 Thread Moebius
I believe another option that the BR350 Cisco's support is the tunable link distance parameter. For long distance links, you can enter the number of kilometers that the link spans. This alters the radio timing such that longer link latencies do not cause protocol issues. I have not seen this in any

RE: [BAWUG] cisco ripping me off?

2003-10-20 Thread Moebius
Let me know if 25km on a radio that does not allow adjustment of the 802.11b protocol for distance works... Supposedly things should stop working for an unadulterated 802.11b radio at that distance.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Wo

RE: [BAWUG] cisco ripping me off?

2003-10-20 Thread Moebius
Agreed.. A Gaussian rocket-science function based on distance and noise.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Lanciani Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [BAWUG] cisco ripping me off? "Mo

RE: [BAWUG] Richmondchannel, emerychannel - regional networks?

2003-10-27 Thread Moebius
They are 24db grids on grizzly peak for transbay.net, a wisp in Berkeley. Peter Kranz Unwired Ltd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Marker Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 9:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BAWUG] Richmondchannel,

RE: [BAWUG] ATT Wireless outage?

2003-11-05 Thread Moebius
All of the customer care systems have been down at AT&T Wireless since Friday night.. Any 2.5G order entry, etc.. is off-line at this time.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rupert Wever Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:43 PM To: Matt Pet

RE: [BAWUG] DWL-900 - 12v into power port? or will it catch on fire.

2003-12-06 Thread Moebius
A dc-dc converter will be more efficient than a 7805 regulator... less heat.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BAWUG] DWL-900 - 12v into power port? or will it catc

RE: [BAWUG] today's weather

2003-12-30 Thread Moebius
My 12 mile link from Berkeley to Angel Island loved it.. No problems at all.. Peter Kranz Unwired Ltd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Concepcion Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BAWUG] today's

RE: [BAWUG] Client AND Access Point with one radio ?

2004-01-20 Thread Moebius
The XO2 radios from SmartBridges have two radios in them, one can act as a client, the other can act as an access point.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilles Boccon-Gibod Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sub

RE: [BAWUG] WISP headaches

2004-01-21 Thread Moebius
Don't use DHCP in this kind of situation.. you will constantly be dealing with people installing cheap home devices that have their own DHCP servers in them.. Give people IP allocations, let them either use that allocation or run their own DHCP server locally.. block DHCP from going over the networ

RE: [BAWUG] connecting to BARWN

2004-02-02 Thread Moebius
BARWN doesn't have the 802.11b timing adjustments in their radio's for long links, so its likely that the shot to the Marina might not come up if you are going for a shot to a link longer than YBI.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Dou

RE: [BAWUG] Cisco Aironet 350 and generic 802.11b, an endless cycle of associating then disassociating

2004-04-14 Thread Moebius
What version of the AP software are you running? 12.04 and up resolved some issues with association loops. Peter Kranz Unwired Ltd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Zemenick Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:48 AM To: Wireless Subject:

[BAWUG] Sacramento wireless

2004-04-14 Thread Moebius
Looking for a wireless provider in the Sacramento, CA area that can hit this address: 2334 Fair Oaks Blvd, Sacramento, CA.. Please respond off-list if you know of any providers in that area..   Regards,   Peter Kranz President – Unwired Ltd Mobile: 510-207- [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

RE: [BAWUG] wild variation in signal level - flat noise level

2004-05-25 Thread Moebius
>From a quick scan of your page.. The received signal level is very constant.. It's the signal to noise ratio that varies wildly. This is going to vary wildly as other 802.11b users and other 2.4Ghz emission sources show up on your channel. If it gets bad, try changing to another channel and see wh

RE: [BAWUG] LMR 400

2004-05-25 Thread Moebius
LMR 400 has a bend radius of 4 inches I believe.. no way you can do a 90 (Unless you use at least a 2.5 inch pipe).. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Lazar Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 4:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BAWUG] LMR 40

[BAWUG] Bernal Heights

2004-06-06 Thread Moebius
All,     We are thinking about building out the Bernal Heights tower as part of a 200Paul data center expansion we are doing. Would anyone on the list be interested in IP transit via that location? It covers a large portion of southern San Francisco and we are thinking of doing it

[BAWUG] Bernal Heights

2004-06-06 Thread Moebius
All,     We are thinking about building out the Bernal Heights tower as part of a 200Paul data center expansion we are doing. Would anyone on the list be interested in IP transit via that location? It covers a large portion of southern San Francisco and we are thinking of doing it if we can

[BAWUG] Atheros AR5004X

2004-06-16 Thread Moebius
Has anyone tried these new Atheros 5004 chipsets until Linux or BSD.. Can you comment on range and throughput results achieved.. Regards, Peter Kranz ___ BAWUG's general wireless chat mailing list [unsubscribe] http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/lis

RE: [BAWUG] WiMAx and BreezeMax

2004-06-17 Thread Moebius
Not avail in the United States... Perhaps once the 3.5 Band is avail in the US you might be able to buy it here.. Pro's : Carrier Grade, high-capacity Con's : Pretty darn expensive Peter Kranz Unwired Ltd www.unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [BAWUG] Re: WiMAx and BreezeMax

2004-06-21 Thread Moebius
Also the Current Breezemax equipment doesn't use the Intel chipset.. You don't have to do business with intel to be part of the WiMax community. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Fleishman Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: [BAWUG] Re: WiMAx and BreezeMax

2004-06-21 Thread Moebius
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:38 PM To: Moebius Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [BAWUG] Re: WiMAx and BreezeMax Moebius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 6/21/04 at 4:33 PM wrote: >Also the Current Breezemax equipment doesn't use the Intel chipset

RE: [BAWUG] Experience - Tsunami MP.11a ?

2004-06-23 Thread Moebius
Don't run the radio's over the 36Mb/s rate, turns out they are processor limited to perform _worse_ at higher modulation rates. They seem to have trouble with signals that are too strong, make sure you use the latest firmware.. It's a good price for an OFDM radio, but a little disappointing from a

RE: [BAWUG] multi-hop network?

2005-01-21 Thread Moebius
Just got 5 of these SkyPilot units and are putting them on Round Top above Oakland.. will be interesting to see how well the mesh works.. Peter Kranz Unwired -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Berger Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005

RE: [BAWUG] Bay Area SkyPilot Implementations

2005-03-08 Thread Moebius
Charles, Unwired www.unwiredltd.com has a SkyPilot implementation serving residential areas of the East Bay (Oakland mainly).. They have used aggressive downtilt on the SkyGateway units to keep out of other local systems. The current SkyGateway may be unusable where a given channel is not a

RE: [BAWUG] AMP on ebay, could be used for major network infrastructure.

2005-04-24 Thread Moebius
Or could be illegal due to the 1W power output level unless used with a 0db antenna. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexis Guajardo Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:48 PM To: bawug Subject: [BAWUG] AMP on ebay, could be used for major net

RE: [BAWUG] AMP on ebay, could be used for major network infrastructure.

2005-04-24 Thread Moebius
Oops.. Illegal if used with more than a 6db antenna.. 1 Watt = 30db.. FCC limit 36db.. -Original Message- From: Moebius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:33 AM To: 'Alexis Guajardo'; 'bawug' Subject: RE: [BAWUG] AMP on ebay, could be us