Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses (John Byrne)

2017-05-05 Thread leutha
Thanks for that point, JohnThe current Wikisource methodology is that files (ideally DejaVu files) are uploaded to Commons, and then the Wikisource software enables an editing window alongside the commons file, page by page.The advantage of the OTRS system is that there is verification of the auth

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses (John Byrne)

2017-05-02 Thread John Byrne
I think Commons is a wholly inappropriate home for theses. The Commons licence allows changes to the material, which at least in scientific subjects could be disastrous, with results and conclusions being fiddled with. When I was at the Royal Society and then Cancer Research UK they were well awar

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread John Munch
Please unsubscribe me On Tue, 2 May 2017 at 15:44, John Lubbock wrote: > Hi Michael, this is really interesting information. I would like to write > something about how we could encourage universities to be better at Open > Access publishing, especially of students' dissertations/theses. Perhaps

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread John Lubbock
Hi Michael, this is really interesting information. I would like to write something about how we could encourage universities to be better at Open Access publishing, especially of students' dissertations/theses. Perhaps I could run something past you when I write it? On 2 May 2017 at 15:14, Michae

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Hi all Just to add to this thread, Wikimedia UK is a named stakeholder of a newly launched initiative for open citations: https://i4oc.org/ Best Lucy On 2 May 2017 at 15:18, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 02/05/17 14:05, John Lubbock wrote: > > Hi Fabian. Do you not think that this time consuming pr

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread Gordon Joly
On 02/05/17 14:05, John Lubbock wrote: > Hi Fabian. Do you not think that this time consuming process of asking > authors individually could be substantially reduced by getting > universities to understand the benefits of Open Licenses and having them > give their students the option of publishing

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread Michael Peel
I remember looking into CC-licensing my PhD thesis back in 2009-10, and found that it wasn't possible as I had to include a copyright statement in it that included restrictions that weren't compatible with CC licenses (without the copyright statement, I couldn't have submitted it to the universi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread
Hi Leutha, It's a mystery to me why when there is no need for secrecy, anyone would want to hide a public statement of copyright in a private database, which is run under arcane confidentiality agreements with the WMF (which is why many volunteers left) and cannot be verified independently. If up

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Hi Fabian I'm not sure whether you saw my email, responding to your suggestion about training, and saying I would discuss this with Michael on Thursday (as he has much more knowledge of Wikimedia Commons and OTRS than I do). Mine and John's replies were posted at about the same time and clearly we

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread leutha
Hi allThanks to John for his prompt prompt response.Actually my answer is no.I am afraid John's solution does not deal with the wealth of academic material, theses etc which have been produced before such universities start to understand the benefits you mention. As students already have the optio

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread Charles Matthews
> On 02 May 2017 at 14:13 Lucy Crompton-Reid > wrote: > > > It's definitely a problem if it takes such a long time for an OTRS to be > resolved. I'm not criticising anyone actually involved in this as a volunteer > but as you say, it suggests a lack of capacity that some dedicated training

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Hi Fabian (and all) It's definitely a problem if it takes such a long time for an OTRS to be resolved. I'm not criticising anyone actually involved in this as a volunteer but as you say, it suggests a lack of capacity that some dedicated training for interested volunteers within the UK community m

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread John Lubbock
Hi Fabian. Do you not think that this time consuming process of asking authors individually could be substantially reduced by getting universities to understand the benefits of Open Licenses and having them give their students the option of publishing on CC licenses. Then the only work we would hav

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread leutha
Hi all,As copyright for a PhD thesis rests with the person who wrote it, it would seem to be a secondary concern to worry over much about various institutional arrangements. The Wikimedia movement has already developed Wikisource, which is a suitable repository for PhD theses, and I would say Mast

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-02 Thread Richard Nevell
Open Research Exeter allows people to publish content under Creative Commons licences. Aside from open licences, a lot of institutions are doing some good work with making theses available online for free. As well as

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-01 Thread John Lubbock
Any chance you could help me write something for the newsletter? On Mon, 1 May 2017 at 14:34, Deryck Chan wrote: > Thanks John for the idea. I'm in a good position to participate on a > personal basis if something like this goes live. > > I'm a PhD student at Cambridge University and I'm partial

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-01 Thread Deryck Chan
Thanks John for the idea. I'm in a good position to participate on a personal basis if something like this goes live. I'm a PhD student at Cambridge University and I'm partially funded by EPSRC which requires all their research publications to be open access. So I will have the option to open-copy

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-01 Thread John Lubbock
No worries. I'll try to put something together myself if I have time. I might ask you for advice though. On 1 May 2017 at 14:31, John Levin wrote: > Hi John, > > Sorry, but I have neither the time nor the knowledge to write on OA uni > publishing, not even just for the humanities side. > > But a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-01 Thread John Levin
Hi John, Sorry, but I have neither the time nor the knowledge to write on OA uni publishing, not even just for the humanities side. But as a sidenote, there are more and more UK academic / university publishers going full OA, such as the Open Library of Humanities: https://about.openlibhums.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

2017-05-01 Thread John Lubbock
Hi John, thanks for posting about this. We have our May newsletter coming up soon. I wonder if you would be interested in writing a short summary of the current state of university Open Access publishing which we could include in it? It can be as short as you like. John Lubbock Communications Coor