Please unsubscribe me On Tue, 2 May 2017 at 15:44, John Lubbock <john.lubb...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi Michael, this is really interesting information. I would like to write > something about how we could encourage universities to be better at Open > Access publishing, especially of students' dissertations/theses. Perhaps I > could run something past you when I write it? > > On 2 May 2017 at 15:14, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote: > >> I remember looking into CC-licensing my PhD thesis back in 2009-10, and >> found that it wasn't possible as I had to include a copyright statement in >> it that included restrictions that weren't compatible with CC licenses >> (without the copyright statement, I couldn't have submitted it to the >> university!). So I ended up only sharing it on arXiv [1]. >> >> Things may have changed for the better since then, but if not then it >> would be great to encourage that change to happen (and would seem like it's >> in-scope for WMUK). It's the same problem as publisher's restrictions on >> the licenses of scientific papers (some still require that you sign >> copyright over to them before publishing a paper!). >> >> BTW, there was a WMUK OTRS workshop back in 2012 [2] - it was mostly >> good, but there were some issues (particularly with non-OTRS users not >> being allowed to see OTRS!). If another one is organised (which I think is >> a good idea!) I'm happy to pass on learnings from the 2012 one. >> >> Thanks, >> Mike >> >> [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1006.2760 if anyone's interested ;-) >> [2] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/OTRS_workshop >> >> On 2 May 2017, at 10:38, leu...@fabiant.eu wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> Thanks to John for his prompt prompt response. >> >> Actually my answer is no. >> >> I am afraid John's solution does not deal with the wealth of academic >> material, theses etc which have been produced before such universities >> start to understand the benefits you mention. As students already have the >> option of publishing their material on CC licenses (Students are not >> employees), they do not need to universities to provide such an option. >> >> My point is that Wikimedia UK is in a unique position to actually do >> something to benefit how the community works as regards OTRS, of which the >> benefit I have mentioned is just an example. >> >> If Wikimedia UK does not want to do this, then perhaps we could have a >> policy decision from the organisation to put us in the picture. >> >> Then we could explore doing this directly through the Foundation. I doubt >> there is much appetite for setting up some sort of Wikimedia UK 3.0 – at >> this moment in time. >> >> I know from one or two discussions I have had that various people feel >> that Wikimedia Uk has been experiencing some mission drift towards more >> general open knowledge advocacy and away from specific Wikimedia Community >> support. I feel this is an opportunity for the organisation to clarify >> where it's going. >> >> Another issue I feel the charity could address is a generic clause for >> people to add to their wills releasing their copyrightable output under >> Creative Commons licenses. These could be generic, i.e. everything, or >> partitioned (for example: "all my photographs"). >> >> It would also be useful to have some phraseology so that people who own >> the copyright of someone who has died can release their material under >> a Creative Commons license. I feel this would make a significant impact in >> covering the gap between photos in particular taken by people whose >> copyright has lapsed and the contemporary period when people have started >> releasing their own photos on a CC license. >> >> >> >> all the best >> >> Fabian >> >> aka Leutha >> >> On 02 May 2017 at 14:05 John Lubbock <john.lubb...@wikimedia.org.uk> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Fabian. Do you not think that this time consuming process of asking >> authors individually could be substantially reduced by getting >> universities >> to understand the benefits of Open Licenses and having them give their >> students the option of publishing on CC licenses. Then the only work we >> would have to do is to upload them. >> >> John >> >> On 2 May 2017 at 14:02, <leu...@fabiant.eu> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> As copyright for a PhD thesis rests with the person who wrote it, it would >> seem to be a secondary concern to worry over much about various >> institutional arrangements. The Wikimedia movement has already developed >> Wikisource <https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page>, which is a >> suitable repository for PhD theses, and I would say Masters thesis as >> well. >> In fact all we need do is ask the people who own the copyright to upload a >> pdf (or better a Dejavu file) to commons. Once they have done this - which >> involves releasing reproduction rights as Creative Commons - then whether >> they or others take the document through to becoming a completely >> validated >> document. >> >> The advantage of this is that we can then generate an annotated version >> which includes hyperlinks to wikipedia pages which means we can create an >> approach to reading which allows the reader to move fluidly between >> wikipedia pages and upload PhD theses. >> >> One of the problems I have encountered during my period as a Wikimedian in >> Residence at MayDay Rooms, is in uploading an old MA thesis from Chris >> Knight, <https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Chris_Knight> currently a >> professor of Anthropology. Getting his agreement, getting a pdf of his >> thesis was quite easy. The problem was that having uploaded the file to >> commons and having sent emails to the Commons OTRS >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OTRS>, nothing happened for >> several weeks. Indeed it was only thanks to the help of a Wikimedia at the >> London Meet up who had access to the OTRS system, that the Commons >> documentation could be updated. >> >> The hold up is largely down to a shortage of people with OTRS access. When >> I volunteered for this I was told I did not have enough experience. I was >> not informed how such relevant experience constituted and how it might be >> gained. >> >> I raised this issue at the Education Summit >> < >> https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/wikimedia-uk-education-summit-at-middlesex-university-tickets-30324750144> >> (sorry >> for the eventbrite link, but I have been unable to find any on-wiki >> documentation), and it would be interesting to know whether Wikimedia UK >> would be interested in doing something about this? >> >> In particular it would be useful if we could have some people already >> active on OTRS to deliver a training session, so that we could have a >> whole >> cohort trained up, and if they could thus show a sufficient level of >> competence, could then go through the OTRS recruitment process. >> >> OTRS respondents have a verified identity, but this identity is not made >> public. This means that Wikimedia UK with its robust Data Protection >> Policy <https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Data_Protection_Policy> constitutes >> a suitable vehicle for organising such training, as this cannot be >> organised by an informal group. >> >> I would suggest that using staff time for this purpose should be >> prioritised over activities which might have less direct impact on the >> development of our movement. >> >> all the best >> >> Fabian >> >> aka Leutha >> >> On 02 May 2017 at 10:59 Richard Nevell <richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk> >> wrote: >> >> Open Research Exeter >> <http://www.exeter.ac.uk/research/openaccess/databases/ >> orepolicies/#d.en.444179> >> allows people to publish content under Creative Commons licences. >> >> Aside from open licences, a lot of institutions are doing some good work >> with making theses available online for free. As well as Exeter (where I'm >> a PhD student), there's Edinburgh >> <http://www.ed.ac.uk/information-services/library-museum-gallery/finding- >> resources/library-databases/databases-subject-a-z/database-theses> >> , Hull <https://hydra.hull.ac.uk/>, Oxford <https://ora.ox.ac.uk/>, and >> White >> Rose <http://etheses.whiterose.ac.uk/> which covers Leeds, Sheffield, and >> >> York. Not everything is freely available - for example because some have >> embargo periods - but it represents a large resource of free-to-access >> information. >> >> On 1 May 2017 at 14:34, Deryck Chan <deryckc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks John for the idea. I'm in a good position to participate on a >> personal basis if something like this goes live. >> >> I'm a PhD student at Cambridge University and I'm partially funded by >> EPSRC which requires all their research publications to be open access. So >> I will have the option to open-copyright my eventual PhD thesis, >> especially >> if there's a movement and a repository for it. >> >> Deryck >> >> On 1 May 2017 at 14:22, John Levin <anterote...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Dear list, >> >> The subject of publishing postgrad / PhD these under open licenses came >> up via the W.UK twitter account a few days ago: >> >> Wouldn't it be amazing if all postgrad/PhD students were given the option >> to publish dissertations/theses on Open Licenses? #OpenKnowledge >> https://twitter.com/wikimediauk/status/857618743924592640 >> >> I think there's two issues here: first, if, how and when postgrad theses >> are published, then second, under what license. >> >> For the first, there's been debates recently about embargoing publication >> etc. Eg: >> http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/publishing-dissert >> ation-online/51361 >> But that's another subject really. >> >> For the second, I think there's no reason that prevents any thesis being >> published under a free open license, save where there is use of >> copyrighted >> materials. But I haven't found many unis stating this clearly. >> Leeds is the only UK university I've found that overtly advocates CC >> licenses: >> https://library.leeds.ac.uk/info/371/copyright_for/294/copyr >> ight_for_phds/4 >> But this is on the sole basis of a few hours googling. >> >> I'm a PhD at Sussex ATM, so will be looking more closely into their >> arrangements next year. >> >> John >> >> -- >> John Levin >> http://www.anterotesis.com >> http://twitter.com/anterotesis >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >> >> -- >> Richard Nevell >> Project Coordinator >> Wikimedia UK - sign up to our newsletter <http://eepurl.com/cnYOw5> >> +44 (0) 20 7065 0921 <+44%2020%207065%200921> <+44%2020%207065%200921> >> >> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. 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