Anyone running macOS Catalina yet?

Hi all, anyone doing WO development on the macOS 10.15 (Catalina) beta? Success/fail? Cheers, - hugi ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Upd

Re: Dump NSDictionary as JSON structure?

Hi Markus, check out Gson. I've been using it for a few years and it works great. Simple things are simple, but it's also powerful, allowing you to pass in custom serializers, customize date formats etc. Simple example: String jsonString = new GsonBuilder().create().toJson( someNSDictionary );

Re: Anyone running macOS Catalina yet?

Peace! > > Tim - UCLA GSE&IS > >> On Aug 10, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> anyone doing WO development on the macOS 10.15 (Catalina) beta? Success/fail? >> >> Cheers, >> - hugi >>

Re: Performance issues with large binary data in database

Hi Markus, when I had problems like this it was usually because I was "accidentally" fetching a lot of the blob-containing objects (like EOF firing a relationship to check delete rules when performing a delete). But I'd start by attaching a profiler like VisualVM to your application to see wher

Re: Binding to static vars?

Well, it's *possible*… https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/WOOgnl+Framework That being said, I've never actually used these more elaborate-y obscure-y OGNL features. They just feel … wrong. - hugi > On 11 Oct 2019, at 14:26, Markus Ruggiero via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > >

Re: Binding to static vars?

>>> Well, it's *possible*… >>> >>> >>> >>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/WOOgnl+Framework >>> >>> >>> That being said, I've never actually used these more elaborate-y obscure-y >>> OGNL features. They j

Re: Anyone running macOS Catalina yet?

hugi > On 20 Oct 2019, at 13:15, Jérémy DE ROYER wrote: > > Hi all, > > Did anyone migrate to Catalina with Wolips for development ? > > Have a nice week-end, > > Jérémy > >> Le 23 août 2019 à 12:12, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >> mailto:webobject

Re: There was an old thread about Ajax...

Yeah, that's helpful. Sorry we're not aware of that secret work on TreasureBoat. - hugi > On 29 Oct 2019, at 15:13, Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > The tough work has already been done by Ken on the TreasureBoat. > > But as they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make

Re: There was an old thread about Ajax...

I believe TreasureBoat used Apple's leaked WO sources so I don't find it likely they'll ever participate in anything that can be considered "open", be it source or discourse. That project might be suitable for some, and these folks should definitely pursue it., As far as I'm concerned, that pro

Re: AjaxFlexibleFileUpload vs. ERDragAndDropUpload

I moved away from the Wonder upload components a while back and moved to use dropzone.js, which is quite nice. Unfortunately I've never gotten around to make an actual component out of it since each project has such different UI requirements. But dropzone is easy enough to use and quite well do

Re: Catalina and Frontbase

Can't see anything WO/EOF-specific about that stack overflow so you might want to check with the FrontBase-folks (frontbase.com has contact addresses). Lucky you. They're really among the nicest people you'll ever encounter on this planet :). - hugi > On 30 Dec 2019,

Re: suspicious sessions and R/R loops created for a CSS font

Well, WOStaticResourceRequestHandler doesn't really "create a request/response loop". A request is is sent to the application, the application will then look at the URL and determine from that what request handler should handle the request. That handler then generates a response. In this case WO

Re: More recent PRs for wolifecycle-maven-plugin

Hi Paul, I haven't tried out the new features (currently in bed with pneumonia so I'm not good for a lot) but I checked out the updated snapshot version and successfully built a couple of projects with it. So I can at least confirm that the changes don't seem to break anything (well, for me at l

Re: Back again....

>> THe cuirrent install process isn't horrible, it's just not described >> succinctly and correctly in one place. > > You're absolutely right here. I'm afraid that the issue is simply that > WebObjects (and to a large extent Project Wonder as well) is abandonware, and > the will to keep this i

Another WODay

Hi all, I really enjoyed WODay last year, huge kudos to Rene and the people at Salient for that! Are you considering a repeat this year? - hugi ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjec

Re: Multiple timezones

My solution to this particular problem is to live in Iceland and work only on software for Icelanders. No daylight savings and all UTC all the time. Almost worth the weather. - hugi > On 26 Feb 2020, at 18:12, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > Just to complain about how hard thi

Re: Entity/attribute/relationship terrible toString?

You could also specify your own EO superclass in the EOModel and override toString() globally in that class, right? That way you can avoid messing with the EOGenerator templates. (disclaimer: it's been a while since I've touched EOF) Cheers, - hugi > On 2 Jun 2020, at 12:05, Paul Yu via Webo

Re: Creating a EOModel in code

And if you're creating a new project, don't use EOF. If you must? Have a really. really. really. good reason. > On 26 Jun 2020, at 01:32, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > You can generate your model based on your data-schema. I think that’s what > you want, but you can also create

Re: Creating a EOModel in code

It used to be a good call. As in… The best. Now don't and move on (ps: Cayenne) - hugi > On 26 Jun 2020, at 02:28, Jesse Tayler wrote: > > Hey, I use EOF! > >> On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: >> >> And if you're creating a new project, don't use EOF. If you must? Have a

Re: Creating a EOModel in code

You might also want to take a look at Cayenne. It's well documented and we're eager to help where the docs fall short. And most importantly; it's an active and maintained project that didn't die over a decade ago :) - hugi > On 26 Jun 2020, at 19:04, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev > wr

Re: Creating a EOModel in code

ot;generic everything framework" like EOF wants to be). - hugi >> On Jun 26, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >> wrote: >> >> You might also want to take a look at Cayenne. It's well documented and >> we're eager to help where t

Re: Creating a EOModel in code

nctions and more, all type safe using "Properties", the >> Cayenne version of ERXKey. >> >> API-wise it can pretty much be a drop-in replacement for EOF and from >> experience I can say there's nothing to lose and much to gain. (assuming >> you

Re: WOLips bugfixes and new features planning

Regarding the old GitHub issue list, I took a look at it a while back. The thing that struck me was how old most of the issues are so testing them all might be something of a waste of time. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VnyixuTJN_bVVHhISC2mP4XdRLUnzcRFb63hIBD4I2M/edit#gid=10545987

Re: How often do you bounce your apps?

Never. Uptime on my apps is usually weeks or months. Cycled regularly when I used EOF though. That thing leaks. - hugi > On 4 Aug 2020, at 21:31, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > Personally I feel better bouncing my .woa instances daily. Even if it is a > small site I have

Re: How often do you bounce your apps?

gt;>> and set memory stuff from JavaMonitor to keep things sane. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 3:35 AM, Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev >>>>>> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.co

Re: How often do you bounce your apps?

esently in memory using >> techniques listed here: >> https://medium.com/@jerolba/measuring-actual-memory-consumption-in-java-jmnemohistosyne-5eed2c1edd65 >> >> <https://medium.com/@jerolba/measuring-actual-memory-consumption-in-java-jmnemohistosyne-5eed2c1edd65> >>

WOLips development on Windows—hot reload classes

Hi all, I've got a Windows guy doing WO development using WOLips. Everything works fine, apart from one thing: Dynamic class reloading does not seem to be working. Automatic building is active and changes to HTML/templates get picked up on immediately. But changes to Java code are not picked up o

Re: WOLips development on Windows—hot reload classes

ple.com] > Envoyé : vendredi 21 août 2020 00:55 > À : Hugi Thordarson > Cc : WebObjects List > Objet : Re: WOLips development on Windows—hot reload classes > > On 20 Aug 2020, at 23:29, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev > mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> > wro

Re: Maven and Wonder

Nice! > On 16 Sep 2020, at 05:03, Paul Hoadley wrote: > > Just for the archives... > > On 6 Feb 2019, at 04:53, Hugi Thordarson > wrote: > >> Regarding (1), you probably need to include JarResourceRequestHandler >> ((https://gist.github.com/hprange/1068523 >>

Re: Qualifying a DisplayGroup in WOO

Hi Don, it's been ages since I've used DisplayGroups, but it does seem like you're missing an invocation of qualifyDisplayGroup() (if you want to filter objects already in the DG) or qualifyDataSource() (to perform an entirely new fetch) on the DG to actually do anything with the qualifier you'v

Simplifying Wonder

Hi all, for the past couple of days I've been doing some simplification of Project Wonder with the help of Paul (Hoadley). The goal is to shed some of the weight that Wonder carries and make it easier to develop and make it easier to use it as a tool to carry WO forward. What we've got so far i

Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something I started for fun a during a WOWODC session and the more people that join the better! I thought it was "common knowledge" by now but I can absolutely understand how the channel can be perceived as "secret", since it's n

Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

hing. > > Ideas? > > > >> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >> wrote: >> >> The Slack channel is in no way or form meant to be a secret. It's something >> I s

Re: The secret WOCommunity Slack channel?

>>> that help keep our apps nicely modern and I’m actually really happy with >>> the results so I still love WO and haven’t found anything I could wield >>> that kind of power. >>> >>> I should put the Docker stuff into a WIKI page, but I’m also wondering &

Re: Webobjects-dev Digest, Vol 17, Issue 168

> Is it not possible to make it public? Not to my knowledge, unfortunately. That would definitely be the optimal solution. > I think I tried to get in, but honestly, I have so much trouble logging into > slack with their truly bizarre idea of how to find what channels you belong > to and log t

Re: Idle in transaction

Not sure if this is still the correct solution (it's been a while) but we solved this back in the day by appending the parameter ?useBundledJdbcInfo=true to the DB connection URL. Makes the Postgres plugin load jdbcInfo from the plugin bundle rather than the DB. https://github.com/wocommunity

Wonder Java 11 migration

Hi all! A few of us would like to move the Wonder development branch from Java 8 to Java 11, as a first step in moving to modern java versions. https://github.com/wocommunity/wonder/pull/944 This means new versions of Wonder would only be compat

Source for the deployed archetypes on maven.wocommunity.org?

Hi all, does anyone know where the sources for the currently deployed maven archetypes (2.2-SNAPSHOT) on maven.wocommunity.org are? The WOCommunity WOLips repo has sources (https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/tree/master/maven2/archetypes

Re: Alternative JVM

Hi Lon, the .woa's [platform]Classpath.txt files have some variables defined in comments at the top. One of them is "JVM" which is the java executable. I've changed that during build to point to my desired JVM, replacing "java" with something like "/opt/jdk8/bin/java". I don't think you can cha

Re: Alternative JVM

Hah! That's much better than my way of running a shell script after build to modify the classpath.txt file. Thanks for the pointer :D - hugi > On 19 Apr 2021, at 21:16, Lon Varscsak wrote: > > Nevermind, I found it, thanks! > > For future reference to those that might need it you need to ch

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

Thanks for raising the issue Henrique! It probably comes as no surprise that I support this :). Ted; just to clarify, this proposal only applies to the building of Wonder itself. Wonder's maven build generates artifacts/bundles that can be consumed by Ant applications, so nothing changes in tha

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

> (and if you're using the builds from jenkins.wocommunity.org > , you're already using the maven built > frameworks). So… This was a blatant lie on my behalf (would love some recipes for crow right now). Jenkins currently uses the ant build. But Maven in gener

Re: New installation WOLips problems

Hi Stavros, some deprecated APIs were removed in Eclipse 2023-06 making WOLips go bonkers. I made a quick fix during summer which I've been using since https://github.com/hugithordarson/wolips/commit/2eca954c5ea9337073c8746be6715758ff487896 I wonder if we shouldn't just tag the current master "

Re: New installation WOLips problems

ply approve on my own. Can someone help with that? > > Maik > > >> Am 15.09.2023 um 11:09 schrieb Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >> : >> >> Hi Stavros, >> >> some deprecated APIs were removed in Eclipse 2023-06 making WOLips go >

Re: Current state of enterprise frameworks

Good question… If you add some details on the project I'll provide better answers : ). As for myself, I still use WO for most front end work and consider it good at what it does. Fast, simple and effective. But I've switched most of my DB logic/domain logic away from EOF to Cayenne and sincerel

Re: Meetup maybe? Or call me maybe?

Hi guys, just seeing this now, sorry! The whole family apart from me decided to go sick last week, so I've assumed the duties of shopping, wrapping and otherwise preparing the holidays alongside work :). But I like Ted's idea of "sharing the love". If there's interest, I'd love to have an open

Re: WOLips Update

"All" is just Ralf. I opened Eclipse 2024-03 for the first time, only to get that error. Within minutes, my mail client said "bing!" and it was a notification about Ralf's fix PR. So I tested the fork a bit, worked fine, just merged. So thanks Ralf! Perfect timing :) - hugi > On Mar 15, 2024,

Re: Debug frameworks with maven project

I don't think I've ever had to attach sources of maven projects manually in Eclipse (although I recall hitting something like this in a far past). And given the second problem, it kind of sounds like the link between the app project and the libraries/frameworks is completely broken. Paul's sugg

Re: enumerating sessions?

Hi, if you're using WO's standard session store (WOServerSessionStore) you should be able to access the active sessions using: ((WOServerSessionStore)WOApplication.application().sessionStore())._sessions() It will return a dictionary consisting of sessionID -> Session. Not using it though, I'm

Re: action in a sub-component?

I've never done this, but it's such a nice brain-teaser I had to try :). And what I did _seems_ to work. https://gist.github.com/hugithordarson/37d03336de17cfcf3ac399f6325e0ff2 The key is making the child component non-synchronizing, otherwise the parent action will get invoked during the pulli

Re: Debug frameworks with maven project

re: https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/issues/153. So, yeah... If you're using maven and want a correct classpath and proper inter-project relationships, run your applications as Java applications, not WOApplications. Cheers, - hugi > On Apr 16, 2024, at 05:28, Hugi Thordarson

Re: Wonder-slim

Hi Francois, I'm pretty sure I'm the only one using it at the moment :). If you're considering using it, I'd be more than happy to start making actual releases. As the only user, I've been lazy enough to just work from snapshot releases which is pretty far from best practice, so it's about time.

Re: Wonder-slim

Parada wrote: > > Hi all, > > I’m just curious, what is Wonder-slim? > > Thanks > Ricardo > > >> On Apr 29, 2024, at 4:57 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >> wrote: >> >> Hi Francois, >> I'm pretty sure I'm the onl

Re: Wonder-slim

n achieve the same by creating one of those (or adding wonder-slim to one of your existing projects). Cheers, - hugi > > Francois > >> Le 1 mai 2024 à 16:31, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev >> a écrit : >> >> Hi Ricardo, >> >> https://gith

Re: Wonder-slim

im in eclipse I get the "your IDE is missing natures >> to properly support your project " >> In your wonder-slim README the link after "Let’s set it up" seems broken. >> May be is something wrong in my Wo / Maven configuration. >> I can’t find th

Re: WOLips development

ponent and NSValidation caches on class > reload. > > With this setup, you usually only need to restart an app when changing the > base class of a class or a static member initializer. > > I wrote the plugin, il you have question or feature requests, feel free to > ask.

Re: WOLips development

d at > https://wocommunity.org/documents/tools/jprofiler6/ > > On 11/7/24 5:44 PM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev wrote: >> Ramsay, it's awesome you're taking a look at WOLips, thanks for that! And >> curiosity is eating me alive; looking at anything in part

Re: WOLips development

Ramsay, it's awesome you're taking a look at WOLips, thanks for that! And curiosity is eating me alive; looking at anything in particular? Not using either of the plugins you mentioned. But using the opportunity for some evangelism; replaced JRebel with DCEVM and hotswap-agent a few years back.

Re: WOLips5

Ramsey, you rock. Quick to build, easy to install. Been using it for about an hour and haven't noticed any issues. - hugi > On 18 Nov 2024, at 03:12, Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > I'm pleased to announce a new WOLips version: WOLips5. I've now pushed a new > branch to the WO

Re: NScollections vs Java collections

> > I want to play with Cayenne but have not found the real good yet... Porting a > large application seems a bit too big to experiment a new frameworks but I > have a personal project that seems a very good fit. > > Regards, > > Samuel > > >> Le 3 f

Re: NScollections vs Java collections

t;> >> Iirc the NS collections were there due to simplifying porting of apps from >> objc to Java. I don’t think there is any big difference in performance >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 2 Feb 2025, at 12:18, Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev

Re: NScollections vs Java collections

When I made the switch to Java collections I did do some benchmarking. Haven’t got the code anymore (this was a decade ago) but at that time, the Java collection classes were faster, but the operations were really so fast in both cases that the differences were negligible — at that time. Since

Re: Eureka!!!

Mornin'! Just adding to the conversation; I didn’t know JVM arguments from a project's build.properties were passed to JVMs launched by Eclipse. If it’s so, I probably don’t benefit from it since it's probably be the responsibility of the WOLips launcher to read and pass in those arguments (mea

Re: Eureka!!!

! - hugi > On 19 Jan 2025, at 22:48, Ramsey Gurley wrote: > > Since we are chatting... is it sufficient to add the JavaXML framework to > in order to see that issue 153 happen? > > > On 1/20/25 7:42 AM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev wrote: >>>> Regarding

Re: Eureka!!!

>> Regarding workarounds for the module system (—add-exports/- -add-opens), I >> keep those in the global configuration for the JREs used by Eclipse to >> launch my applications (same place where you’d usually put the hotswap-agent >> and DCEVM config), so it’s a one time thing that I don’t have

Re: That pesky Amount read didn't match content-length ...

Hi OC, when you say 2 MB, is it possible you mean 2 GB? There used to be (and maybe still is? it's been a while) a problem with both the Apache adaptor and WO's own WOAdaptor using an int to keep track of content-length, meaning file uploads/downloads tended to fail when it was larger than Inte

Re: That pesky Amount read didn't match content-length ...

can test this again with streaming if that turns out to be your case (performing a 300MB upload with the odl style bindings and timeouts properly set works fine for me through the Apache adaptor). Cheers, - hugi > On 13 Feb 2025, at 11:17, OCsite wrote: > > Hugi, > >> On

New template parser for WO - "Parsley" - released

Hi all. If anyone is interested, I've released a new template parser for use with WO (can be used with Wonder, but Wonder not required): https://github.com/undur/Parsley/ The parser is based on the code of WOOgnl from Project Wonder and thus supports templates that use WOOgnl style inline bin

Anywhere you can get WO 4.5.1?

Hi all! Pardon my nostalgia, but a 1999 PowerMac G4 just fell in my lap. Looks like my data hoarding might finally be paying off, since I have the Mac OS X Server 1.2 (Rhapsody) and WO CDs (which amazingly enough worked just fine), along with backups of a bunch of my ancient WO projects that I'

Help with running the development version of WOLips?

Hi all! (with a loving look, nod of the head and an especially warm smile for Ramsey) I'm trying to take a little peek at WOlips's internals, i.e. running it for development inside the Eclipse plugin development environment. I used to have the pre-5 plugin running, but I'm not managing to run t

Regarding the "localhostips" property in deployment

Hi all, quick question: When setting up a deployment environment you usually have to set the property er.extensions.WOHostUtilities.localhostips (usually in /etc/WebObjects/Properties) to ensure your applications accept incoming admin requests from wotaskd. This feels a little redundant, so I'v

Re: New template parser for WO - "Parsley" - released

> On 27 Mar 2025, at 22:23, Paul Hoadley wrote: > > On 27 Mar 2025, at 22:53, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > >> Anyway, that's all. Hope someone finds this useful. > > Fantastic work Hugi! I will check this out. Thanks Paul! It will be inter

Re: Regarding the "localhostips" property in deployment

> adaptor config file to reach them. However, we do not have applications on > hosts with no local wotaskd, so maybe that’s the one case where this would be > necessary? > > Maik > On 6 May 2025, at 02:05, Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > >> On 5 M

Do we need ERXApplication.Loader anymore?

Hi all, quick question: Does anyone know if ERXApplication.Loader does anything of value, or that's required for a maven application to function? I spent yesterday looking into it and ended up just disabling it in my wonder fork/all my projects (12 apps using a variety of frameworks), and for