Hmm… Just created a test project to try to demonstrate the problems but quick 
testing (on wolips5) seems to show that none of them are present anymore! 
Perhaps your upgrades to WOLips pulled in some upgraded/fixed Eclipse 
CP-generation classes along the way? If so, one more hurrah for you!

- hugi


> On 19 Jan 2025, at 22:48, Ramsey Gurley <ramseygur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Since we are chatting...  is it sufficient to add the JavaXML framework to 
> <exclusions> in order to see that issue 153 happen?
> 
> 
> On 1/20/25 7:42 AM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev wrote:
>>>> Regarding workarounds for the module system (—add-exports/- -add-opens), I 
>>>> keep those in the global configuration for the JREs used by Eclipse to 
>>>> launch my applications (same place where you’d usually put the 
>>>> hotswap-agent and DCEVM config), so it’s a one time thing that I don’t 
>>>> have to worry about in the context of individual projects.
>>> 
>>> Oh you've got to be kidding me:
>>> 
>>> <PastedGraphic-1.png>
>>> 
>>> When did I put that there!? The final punchline will probably be that you 
>>> told me to put that there 3 years ago.
>> You’ve got quite the fauna over there, perhaps an unknown species that 
>> sneaks into people's houses at night and helpfully configures their JREs? 
>> The Woobnogger?
>> 
>> 
>>> So Ted, the solution to the mystery here is that what I told you to do for 
>>> one project can also be done globally for all your Eclipse launches: see 
>>> above. That's why your project appeared to launch for me without 
>>> modification, but required you to add VM arguments.
>>> 
>>>> I’ve mentioned this before, but for years I’ve been running my 
>>>> applications as plain java applications rather than WO applications, since 
>>>> the WOLips launcher constructs a broken classpath for maven applications 
>>>> (which, IIRC, also results in problems resolving workspace projects at 
>>>> runtime when debugging). I haven’t encountered any problems using this 
>>>> method so I think I can safely recommend it.
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/issues/153
>>> It's been in my to-do list to try this out for a while now.
>> If you’re not experiencing any of those classpath problems, it might not do 
>> much for you. But it saved my ass back in the day.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - hugi
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