Re: Maven Brainstorming Survey

2011-05-09 Thread Dave Ball
Without having dipped my toes into the wave codebase, maybe it would be worth following an incremental approach to any build changes: - split the build where sensible (e.g. slow jUnits) - separate the codebase to allow more modular builds - ship poms for the individual deployable assets - in

Re: JDK7 [Was: Maven]

2013-05-31 Thread Dave Ball
The -Werror failure I saw was when compiling the generated proto files. I would imagine that a newer version of protoc would produce slightly different generated java which doesn't result in compiler warnings. I noticed with your maven build that you re-generate those files every build - where

Review Request: Improve default logging config

2013-06-01 Thread Dave Ball
, made sure it logged as I expected... Thanks, Dave Ball

Re: Review Request: Improve default logging config

2013-06-01 Thread Dave Ball
ATION Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11597/diff/ Testing --- Ran up the server, made sure it logged as I expected... Thanks, Dave Ball

unsubscribe [ was Re: Urgent, Wavers! Reporting time TODAY]

2013-06-08 Thread Dave Ball
Hi David, This list uses self-service maintenance, i.e. you need to unsubscribe yourself. Just send an email to the unsubscribe address documented here: http://incubator.apache.org/wave/mailing-lists.html Dave On 08/06/13 19:45, David van Eyssen wrote: Unsubscribe please.

Re: Advantages of P2P messaging?

2013-06-10 Thread Dave Ball
On 10/06/13 22:34, Upayavira wrote: For the uninitiated, what is OT? Operational transformation - wikipedia describes it far better than I could: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_transformation And the woefully inaccurate novices explanation: It's basically "merge rules" - when multi

Re: Joining as a Mentor

2013-06-25 Thread Dave Ball
We already have confluence. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Home Dave On 25/06/13 16:23, Upayavira wrote: What wiki? Do we have one? If not, I can get one set up. We have a choice of MoinMoin or Confluence. Upayavira On Tue, Jun 25, 2013, at 04:12 PM, John Blossom wrote: Th

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Dave Ball
On 24/03/15 13:49, Yuri Z wrote: 3. Re-think how we should solve the tight coupling/great complexity of client-server protocol. Maybe we should split the Wiab project into two parts server and client - where server will depend on compiled javascript client. Might it be better to have three "part

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Dave Ball
.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Thomas Wrobel wrote: On 24 March 2015 at 16:32, Dave Ball wrote: Might it be better to have three "parts"? - common - server - client Common would contain the document and concurrency model etc. Client and Server would both de

Re: RC7 Vote Release

2015-04-01 Thread Dave Ball
+1 lgtm - tested simple install, user registration and local waves. Dave On 01/04/15 06:11, Yuri Z wrote: RC7 is now available for review. Artifacts can be found here: *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/wave/0.7-incubating/

Re: [VOTE] Wave Release candidate 8

2015-04-15 Thread Dave Ball
+1 Tested simple local server, sign up, local waves, adding and removing recipients. Dave On 15/04/15 01:08, Ali Lown wrote: Aah. The closing time for this has snuck up on me. I will test this out in the morning. Seems like we could do with a few other people checking it as well though...

Re: [VOTE] Wave Release candidate 8

2015-04-15 Thread Dave Ball
]-incubating-[version]-alpha" rather than the more conventional "[projname]-[version]-incubating". I also don't think "alpha" deserves to be in the artifact name. Do we intend to have a 0.4.0-beta and then a 0.4.0? This seems confusing... Sorry, but we should proba

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Wave Release 0.4.0-incubating released

2016-04-05 Thread Dave Ball
Fantastic news! Congratulations all! Lots of people have spent much time shepherding this release; I for one am very grateful. Thank you. Dave On 05/04/16 17:47, Yuri Zelikov wrote: The Apache Wave community is pleased to announce 0.4.0-incubating release. The source and binary release c

Re: Should we remove Federation?

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Ball
I only exist in the peanut gallery, but this reflects my feelings too. Wave isn't wave without federation... I wish I had the time to help :-( Dave On 07/04/16 16:42, Thomas Wrobel wrote: I'm not sure there's any point in wave without federation frankly. I supported wave because I didn't want

Re: Should we remove Federation? Wave as XEP/XMMP Extension

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Ball
I'm not sure that 'XMPP as a transport' is too much of a problem, so much as the current implementation is quite complex. Currently wave requires an external XMPP server, and plugs into that as an extension. This can be scalable but our implementation and configuration could be simplified by

Re: Persistence via git (Was: Should we remove Federation? Wave as XEP/XMMP Extension)

2016-04-21 Thread Dave Ball
I quite like the idea of git, or a git-like OT algorithm - although it wouldn't be a small change... If we're signing deltas, then is the additional server/connection level authentication provided by xmpp superfluous? Server discovery (& redirection) would be useful for true federation, but