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I'm going through Takahashi this week. How could a BEC exist at room temperature? On Dec 27, 2011, at 22:41, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > Bose-Einstein Condensate

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Hello Mary Yugo, I've looked at all of your posts for months, and appreciate your candor, spunk, restraint, keenness, patience and persistence -- it seems that the desire for a major game changing breakthrough since 1989 leads to premature big gambles that so far always fail -- so the whole enterp

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At 05:13 PM 12/27/2011, Charles HOPE wrote: As to the opinion of quantum physicists on the possibility of there being unknown effects in the solid state, there was a recent revision of a textbook on solid state nuclear models, and it has a section on LENR, and it turns out that the author had

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At 03:28 PM 12/27/2011, Charles Hope wrote: If the helium levels are "what they should be" compared to the heat, that assumes some theory that correlates them. Which theory is that? This is an experimental observation, and what you are asking was stated. Helium is produced in PdD cells, when t

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At 01:07 PM 12/27/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: It's been called "fusion confusion." Look, Aussie Guy is anonymous, what he writes is next to meaningless. Don't mix this up with the huge c

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On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Charles HOPE wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: The conventional D+D fusion reaction, using mass differences, is: D + D --> 4He + 23.847 MeV OK, I get it. Am I correct that the conventional theory says this reaction doesn't r

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On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 01:35 AM 12/27/2011, Charles Hope wrote: > > > On Dec 26, 2011, at 22:10, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax >> wrote: >> >> > Then there is that pesky Coulomb barrier. What I found, though, was >> that there was ample opinion among quantum phys

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On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > > > The conventional D+D fusion reaction, using mass differences, is: > > D + D --> 4He + 23.847 MeV > > OK, I get it. Am I correct that the conventional theory says this reaction doesn't really occur (it's either 3He + n, or 3H + H), or i

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On 11-12-26 11:12 PM, Alberto De Souza wrote: I'm a new member of the list, but I'm reading the posts since January. I'm addicted... If we have a large COP (10-100), I believe we can use thin film thermogenerators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectricity) such as these http://www.mic

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Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Arata ran a small motor with one heated by a self-sustaining gas-loaded > cell. > > > Jed, could you possibly give a URL for the paper (if Arata published one > and if it's been uploaded anywhere)? > I do not think he ever published that. It was just something he di

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I wrote: "The heavy lattice atoms are closer to absorbed hydrogen than hydrogen in adjacent lattices." That should say: "Absorbed hydrogen nuclei are closer to adjacent heavy lattice atom nuclei than to hydrogen nuclei in adjacent lattice sites." Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.

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On 11-12-26 10:24 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 05:31 PM 12/26/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: Arata ran a small motor with one heated by a self-sustaining gas-loaded cell. Cool! Did an

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Excuse me. I didn't realize your level of understanding. Mass and energy are related by E = m c^2. If the inputs and outputs have a mass difference, then that mass is converted to energy, in kinetic form, radiant form, or both. This is the basis of most all nuclear reaction energy calcula

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On 11-12-26 05:16 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mary Yugo mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com>> wrote: "Cells running heat after death have closed the loop. Apart from them, no laboratory scale device can produce electricity. " The implication is clear. The cells can produce electricity. If t

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Charles Hope wrote: If the helium levels are "what they should be" compared to the heat, that > assumes some theory that correlates them. Which theory is that? > Not a theory. It is an observation that deuterium is converted to helium to produce heat in the same ratio as plasma fusion does. - J

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If the helium levels are "what they should be" compared to the heat, that assumes some theory that correlates them. Which theory is that? On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:24, Horace Heffner wrote: > It is not theory, it is experimental result. Go to: > > http://www.lenr-canr.org/ > > and enter "Mil

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After thinking a little bit about the calculations I did (see below) and considering what I have learned from this year reading vortex, I came to the conclusion that the engineering approach proposed by Aussie Guy (and also Rossi) is the best approach forward in the LERN field... If one manages to

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Alberto De Souza < alberto.investi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm a new member of the list, but I'm reading the posts since January. I'm > addicted... > > If we have a large COP (10-100), I believe we can use thin film > thermogenerators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > It's been called "fusion confusion." Look, Aussie Guy is anonymous, > what he writes is next to meaningless. Don't mix this up with the huge > corpus of work from hundreds of scientists around the world. > Hi Abd, Thanks for the cita

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After some calculations, I think it is better to use the MPG-D751. See below. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > The 2.5 x 2.5 mm device has a max power output of approx 0.8 mW at 10 deg > K differential. Assuming 1 Watt excess with a COP 5 yields 200 mW input. > Would nee

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McKubre now acknowledges his 23.8 KeV was in error. Harry On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > It is not theory, it is experimental result.  Go to: > > http://www.lenr-canr.org/ > > and enter "Miles helium" and "McKubre helium". > > > On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Charles Hop

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At 03:53 AM 12/27/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Abd ul-Rahman: » I have seen no peer-reviewed criticisms that manage to impeach the *correlation* of heat with helium.» If I have understood correctly, the correlation is meaningless, because there are orders of magnitude too tiny amounts of he

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I'm reading his papers and I don't understand one thing: 1.What triggers the 4D/TSC? It looks like an ordinary configuration of D in palladium... 2.Why does he use a value that is so precise "1.4007fs" to the 4D/TSC reach the minimum state. His calculations are approximations and even if they were

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It is not theory, it is experimental result. Go to: http://www.lenr-canr.org/ and enter "Miles helium" and "McKubre helium". On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Charles Hope wrote: How's that? According to what theory? On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:01, Jed Rothwell wrote: Jouni Valkonen wrote: If

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At 01:35 AM 12/27/2011, Charles Hope wrote: On Dec 26, 2011, at 22:10, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > Then there is that pesky Coulomb barrier. What I found, though, was that there was ample opinion among quantum physicists that it was possible that the unexplored conditions of condensed matt

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At 01:03 AM 12/27/2011, Rich Murray wrote: Hi Abd Lomax, I'm glad to see you posting a lot now, and expressing strong doubts about Rossi. Are you continuing to develop your low cost tiny CF kits for electrolytic codeposition of Pd in deuterium heavy water electrolyte, using plastic to record

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How's that? According to what theory? On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:01, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Jouni Valkonen wrote: > >> If I have understood correctly, the correlation is meaningless, because >> there are orders of magnitude too tiny amounts of helium compared to >> observed heat. >> > > You do

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Jouni Valkonen wrote: If I have understood correctly, the correlation is meaningless, because there are orders of magnitude too tiny amounts of helium compared to observed heat. You do not understand correctly. The amounts of helium are right what they should be compared to observed heat.

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Abd ul-Rahman: » I have seen no peer-reviewed criticisms that manage to impeach the *correlation* of heat with helium.» If I have understood correctly, the correlation is meaningless, because there are orders of magnitude too tiny amounts of helium compared to observed heat. Therefore there is onl

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On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: However, in open cells, the oxygen leaves the cell as it is generated, and in closed cells, excess oxygen is still vented, my understanding (otherwise the pressure would rise very high, as oxygen isn't loaded into palladium. Some of t

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On Dec 26, 2011, at 22:10, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > Then there is that pesky Coulomb barrier. What I found, though, was that > there was ample opinion among quantum physicists that it was possible that > the unexplored conditions of condensed matter just might provide some pathway > arou

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Hi Abd Lomax, I'm glad to see you posting a lot now, and expressing strong doubts about Rossi. Are you continuing to develop your low cost tiny CF kits for electrolytic codeposition of Pd in deuterium heavy water electrolyte, using plastic to record the impacts of any generated neutrons, accordin

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The 2.5 x 2.5 mm device has a max power output of approx 0.8 mW at 10 deg K differential. Assuming 1 Watt excess with a COP 5 yields 200 mW input. Would need around 300 of the MPG-D615 devices with fitted finned heat sinks to each device's COLD side to get good thermal transfer into the air. C

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I'm a new member of the list, but I'm reading the posts since January. I'm addicted... If we have a large COP (10-100), I believe we can use thin film thermogenerators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectricity) such as these http://www.micropelt.com/down/datasheet_mpg_d651_d751.pdf to make a

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At 05:31 PM 12/26/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: Arata ran a small motor with one heated by a self-sustaining gas-loaded cell. Cool! Did anyone verify this or replicate it? And how long did i

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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > You have not even bothered to look at most, and the few that you claim you >> read you say "make no sense" and are poorly written. >> > > Jed, that's really unfair. You are mixing up two very different > situations, the Rossi/Defkalion issue, and the full body of dat

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At 04:52 PM 12/26/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mary Yugo <maryyu...@gmail.com> wrote: I'd believe almost anything, including most particularly Defkalion and Rossi claims, if they were properly tested, the tests were independently and properly replicated and someone or

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At 04:27 PM 12/26/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mary Yugo <maryyu...@gmail.com> wrote: I suggest you stop guessing and read the literature. I suggest you stop referring vaguely to some amorphous "literature" and answer the question . . . No can do. I learned years a

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At 03:19 PM 12/26/2011, Vorl Bek wrote: > Vorl Bek wrote: > > > > > Nobody ever closes the loop. > > > > That is incorrect. Many people have closed the loop, starting > with Fleischmann and Pons. In cold fusion jargon, "closing the > loop" is called running in "heat after death" mode. Fleischman

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:48 PM, David Roberson wrote: > Mary, > > I would like very much to work with your acquaintance to see how his > model compares to some of the in dept analysis I completed upon the October > 6 test data. > > I totally understand how his model must work and just want to s

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At 03:14 PM 12/26/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: Vorl Bek <vorl@antichef.com> wrote: Nobody ever closes the loop. That is incorrect. Many people have closed

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I say DDSLA, "Different Dog, Same Leg Action". Until it is proven what causes the FPE is not what causes the Ni-H effect, I'll continue to refer to ALL such devices as FPE devices. I will not stand by and see F&P denied the right to the effect they discovered. To go further, after we start comm

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At 07:32 PM 12/25/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: I can't discuss the cell technology yet. I can say I consider a Ni-H cell as a FPE device. You can call a pig an eagle, but that won't make it fly. Seriously, the term "Fleischman-Pons effect" is taken. It usually refers to the "Fleischman-Pons

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Dave -Original Message- From: Mary Yugo To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Dec 26, 2011 6:19 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: MaryYugo asks: “Why is it that specific questions as to power output and duration are, to some cold f

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > http://i.imgur.com/YdetE.png > That was a response by Aber0der to this Alsetalokin remark: " I'll buy a Mac when you can pour water in one end and make espresso with the steam from the internal iEcat out the other end." Here: http://www.mole

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Your assuming their pay check allows them to change their opinion. MY and others put in so much time that I feel they have a stake in the game and it is not about FPE devices being accepted as real. AG On 12/27/2011 10:00 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: This pretty much sums it up… “If t

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This pretty much sums it up. "If there is anything I have learned from the pathoskeps over the past year is that intellectual and well-reasoned arguments are not really necessary to get your point across, and that annoying repetition can be effective." -m

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > MaryYugo asks: > > “Why is it that specific questions as to power output and duration are, to > some cold fusion advocates, like sunshine to vampires?” > > ** ** > > And Mary, the same could be said

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MaryYugo asks: "Why is it that specific questions as to power output and duration are, to some cold fusion advocates, like sunshine to vampires?" And Mary, the same could be said for your ANONYMOUS modeler. When asked in a very polite, respectful manner some specific questions by Dave Robers

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I know he is very busy. I see getting the NI control system working very well is his current priority. I agree with that. I do know electricity generation is a high priority. He needs to show this before Defkalion does. The first to show electricity generation from their device will gain high g

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Mary Yugo wrote: It must do more than barely exceed the limits of chemistry, what ever > exactly that is. > The first report in the literature showed it exceeding the limits by a factor of 1,700. That's not "barely;" that is a lot. Like a person pole vaulting 10 km high. If you do not understan

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We need to generate electricity. To do that we need more than 120 deg C steam. So we wait for the high temp thermal oil E-Cat. The fame belongs to F&P. I'm nothing more than a system integrator. As for closing the loop with a thermal FPE device, you do understand the Carnot cycle? If not, pleas

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Arata ran a small motor with one heated by a self-sustaining gas-loaded > cell. Cool! Did anyone verify this or replicate it? And how long did it run and at what output level? Why is it that specific questions as to power output and dura

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Mary Yugo wrote: > "Cells running heat after death have closed the loop. Apart from them, no > laboratory scale device can produce electricity. " The implication is > clear. The cells can produce electricity. If that isn't what you meant, > just say so. > Obviously I mean they produce heat

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On Dec 26, 2011, at 16:57, Mary Yugo wrote: > With Rossi and Defkalion truly acting and writing like clowns, it's not hard > to see why there is no major press coverage or much of anything else going > on, a full year after the original announcement and hoopla. And Aussie > Guy's extravag

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > >> I suggest you stop guessing and read the literature. >>> >> >> I suggest you stop referring vaguely to some amorphous "literature" and >> answer the question . . . >> > > No can do. I learned years ago there is no poi

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Mary Yugo wrote: I'd believe almost anything, including most particularly Defkalion and > Rossi claims, if they were properly tested, the tests were independently > and properly replicated and someone or some organization I trusted did them. No you will not believe "almost anything." You believ

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Mary Yugo wrote: > I suggest you stop guessing and read the literature. >> > > I suggest you stop referring vaguely to some amorphous "literature" and > answer the question . . . > No can do. I learned years ago there is no point to spoon feeding information to skeptics. First they misunderstan

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > hey figure that people who do not believe calorimetry would not believe > this demonstration either. They have a good point. If someone revealed a > device of this nature, Mary Yugo would surely say it must be fake, with > hidden wires. > I'

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I suggest you stop guessing and read the literature. > I suggest you stop referring vaguely to some amorphous "literature" and answer the question -- see below for a clarification. > > Cells running heat after death have closed the loop. Ap

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Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Now, to take up your second question, should it be possible to build a wet > CF cell which gives enough thermal boost due to the PF effect so that you > can get something useful out of it? Jed and Ed Storms have, IIRC, both > alleged that it should be possible. You se

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On 11-12-26 03:26 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence > wrote: On 11-12-26 02:57 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: Try responding to a real argument: if the claim, as Aussie Guy made it, is for a device with a COP of

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Mary Yugo wrote: > In practice the requirement to close the loop with a wet CF cell is likely >> to be more stringent than that. >> > > I understand but, not to drive this into the ground, why is it necessarily > so? Is there nothing you can do to such a cell to get a higher delta T? > Larger

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > > On 11-12-26 02:57 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > >> >> Try responding to a real argument: if the claim, as Aussie Guy made it, >> is for a device with a COP of 5 over an input measured in watts, then why >> not close the loop? What COP w

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On 11-12-26 02:57 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: Try responding to a real argument: if the claim, as Aussie Guy made it, is for a device with a COP of 5 over an input measured in watts, then why not close the loop? What COP would you need? 10? 100? what? Defkalion, by the way, claims 35x. As

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> Vorl Bek wrote: > > > > > Nobody ever closes the loop. > > > > That is incorrect. Many people have closed the loop, starting > with Fleischmann and Pons. In cold fusion jargon, "closing the > loop" is called running in "heat after death" mode. Fleischmann > once called it "fully ignited," borr

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Vorl Bek wrote: > >> >> Nobody ever closes the loop. >> > > That is incorrect. Many people have closed the loop, starting with > Fleischmann and Pons. In cold fusion jargon, "closing the loop" is called > running in "heat after death" mode.

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Vorl Bek wrote: > > Nobody ever closes the loop. > That is incorrect. Many people have closed the loop, starting with Fleischmann and Pons. In cold fusion jargon, "closing the loop" is called running in "heat after death" mode. Fleischmann once called it "fully ignited," borrowing the term from

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On 11-12-26 01:51 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: On 2011-12-26 19:23, Mary Yugo wrote: Want respect, not mention tons of fame and fortune? Close the loop and make them self running except for (rare) refueling. You'd be the first. That's for sure. With a small thermal excess power it's not tr

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > > Nobody ever closes the loop. > > I think the majority of the Vort Collective understands the fact that Vorl > and MY believe most CF/LENR claims are nothing more than horse manure. >

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> MaryYugo Wrote: > > > > Want respect, not mention tons of fame and fortune? Close the > > loop and make them self running except for (rare) refueling. > > You'd be the first. That's for sure. > > I wonder why the people AG bought the gadgets from did not close > the loop, or why the high

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > > With a small thermal excess power it's not trivial to close the loop in my > opinion. Agreed it's not trivial. But I was addressing Aussie Guy who said his devices have a COP of 5 in the range of watts and that they are B grade at th

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On 2011-12-26 19:23, Mary Yugo wrote: Want respect, not mention tons of fame and fortune? Close the loop and make them self running except for (rare) refueling. You'd be the first. That's for sure. With a small thermal excess power it's not trivial to close the loop in my opinion. It would

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MaryYugo Wrote: > > Want respect, not mention tons of fame and fortune? Close the > loop and make them self running except for (rare) refueling. > You'd be the first. That's for sure. I wonder why the people AG bought the gadgets from did not close the loop, or why the high school students who ma

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Here's what Rossi wrote today (good old Rossi -- always worth a laugh): 1. Andrea Rossi December 26th, 2011 at 11:39 AM Dear Francesco Fiorenzani: I hope within 2012. We must have a production of 1 million pie

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I take you do not read what I have written on this subject? > I try but sometimes my email client hiccups. Last I remember, you had sealed a deal with Rossi and getting a whatever-watt plant was just around the corner and an absolute c

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This could be extremely valuable for the field, and profitable for AG. It would be great to bring these to ICCF-17. Measuring ~1 W is not difficult. I recommend a Seebeck calorimeter. It simplifies matters and it has a large s/n ratio compared to other types, in this range of power. At ~10 W or ab

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Hi Aussie, > I expect what Rossi will offer us is a complete package, > including the 330 Ac kW gen set, all tied up with a > nicely integrated NI thermal kW and Ac kW control system. > That would be nice. When Rossi is ready to offer the > system to us, we are ready to evaluate his offering. Do

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I take you do not read what I have written on this subject? We were ready to do a deal for the 1 MW thermal plant but Rossi suggested we wait as he is not ready to sell us a high temp thermal oil 1 MW E-Cat plant. Why? Because the plant is still in R&D and the necessary technical specifications

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That is the plan. With the help of Jed's archives, other private emails, the loan cell supplier and our local uni, we are confident to produce a simple FPE demo device that can be supplied to a wide market. AG On 12/26/2011 5:13 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: ...The history of demo cells in CF is ve

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AussieGuy has put his money where his mouth is, unlike nearly all others on this list. the person putting the money at risk, calls the shots. All he needs from this forum is support and encouragement. All I can say is. - why did it take you so long to get here (that's actually meant to be enco

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I have allocated $100k to the cell replication project. I was ready to > spend $200k to buy a 100 kW E-Cat system. When Rossi is ready to provide > the detailed specifications for his 330 Ac kW E-Cat, we will again restart > the process to

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Dear Aussie, Happy Midsummer by any name to you and Yours! Very interesting plan with these FPE Cells. Are they working- at which intensity, with which degree of reproducibility , how long? Guarantee? The history of demo cells in CF is very complex and cannot be called a series of triumphs; you h

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Please shut up. > > Oh, and Merry Christmas! ROFL! And happy Hanukkah! (from one frustrated to another) T

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Charles Hope wrote: > > As far as I'm concerned it's more likely that this email account is a > shill paid by Rossi to spin tales and lend him credence, or just somebody's > idea of a laugh. > Please shut up. Oh, and Merry Christmas! - Jed

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I was open why I came here, said I desired to build / obtain a working FPE device, was entering this business to make money and was asking for help in understanding the effect, the players and the history. I will not make any specific claims about our not yet built FPE replicant device until I

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > All will be revealed when we have the positive uni report on our replicant > FPE devices. Until then everyone involved wants to keep a low profile, which > I trust you understand. Then why are YOU talking about it on the most popular cold

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I have allocated $100k to the cell replication project. I was ready to spend $200k to buy a 100 kW E-Cat system. When Rossi is ready to provide the detailed specifications for his 330 Ac kW E-Cat, we will again restart the process to acquire a unit from Leonardo. Likewise when Defkalion is read

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A company that's spent $100k+ on R&D, but can't let anyone know they're even in the industry? I know marketing operations must sometimes be embargoed but that's a bit tough to swallow. As far as I'm concerned it's more likely that this email account is a shill paid by Rossi to spin tales and l

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All will be revealed when we have the positive uni report on our replicant FPE devices. Until then everyone involved wants to keep a low profile, which I trust you understand. AG On 12/26/2011 11:24 AM, Charles Hope wrote: Have you yet revealed your name, or the name of your company? On D

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The uni report and the availability of the replicant cells will do all that is needed to debunk skeptics. Our goal is to take FPE devices out of the lab and into the hands of anyone who desires to work with a new energy source. It amazed me why no one did this with the cells made by the high sch

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The uni we are working with will be free to publish their report on our replicant cells. As part of the agreement, the uni gets the right to make more of our replicant cells as the 2 loan need to be returned. We will release more details when the uni's replicant cell report is completed. AG

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

Have you yet revealed your name, or the name of your company? On Dec 25, 2011, at 19:48, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I support McKubre's "Conservation of Miracles" or as I put it, "Different > Dog, Same Leg Action" ;) > > AG > > > On 12/26/2011 11:04 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: >> On Sun, Dec

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

Right, so your aim is not to debunk skeptics. At least I hope that you make them available as science kits even if they yield only 1W, as soon as possible. 2011/12/25 Aussie Guy E-Cat > At this moment in time all I have are 2 loan cells. They will be tested at > a local uni, which claims to have

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > At this moment in time all I have are 2 loan cells. They will be tested at a > local uni, which claims to have the necessary people and equipment to do a > proper evaluation and to produce a report. When I and others see the uni > report,

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

I support McKubre's "Conservation of Miracles" or as I put it, "Different Dog, Same Leg Action" ;) AG On 12/26/2011 11:04 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: I can't discuss the cell technology yet. I can say I consider a Ni-H cell as a FPE dev

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

At this moment in time all I have are 2 loan cells. They will be tested at a local uni, which claims to have the necessary people and equipment to do a proper evaluation and to produce a report. When I and others see the uni report, showing the cells have repeated what I saw a few weeks ago, th

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

It depends on the theory. The solar process can yield deuterium from protons. 2011/12/25 Terry Blanton > On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat > wrote: > > I can't discuss the cell technology yet. I can say I consider a Ni-H > cell as > > a FPE device. > > But it is not. The reacti

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I can't discuss the cell technology yet. I can say I consider a Ni-H cell as > a FPE device. But it is not. The reaction is likely unrelated to PdD. T

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