Perhaps a new branch for remote control software from comp.dcom or
comp.software might be appropriate, but since Mark is doing the grunt work
I'm more than willing to defer to his decision;>)
Ben Prescott wrote:
>I couldn't find comp.sys.software on deja, though; I assume this would
>start a new
Some of us receive this list as a digest. Makes it difficult to follow your
prescription;>) No one has suggested eliminating the mailing list, why all
the agida about offering people a choice?
Mike Carillon wrote:
>Would you or someone else please explain to me why you need to filter out
>message
> Perhaps other *nixes might be worthwhile having their own
> identifiers (I - Irix, S - Solaris, D - Digital Unix, etc).
hmm... then we would also have to split NT, W95, W98, ME, since they're
sometimes as different as the Unix flavours.
> One problem I can foresee is that, from the evidence I'
> So, I would request that the email list *not* be somehow automatically
> combined with the newsgroup. If news/nntp access is needed and should
> be
> linked to the email list, then I would prefer to have that news group
> hosted on a private system *without* forwarding to the rest of Usenet.
I
Steve Bostedor wrote:
>
> Ok, if someone is going to make a news group, just do it. Enough already.
I think that a newsgroup is going to happen. Everyone seems to be
thrashing out ways that it doesn't archaic the mail list and isolate
those with only email access.
Joal Heagney/AncientHart
I agree with the idea that introduction of a seperate-entity newsgroup
would strangle off the email lists, but also agree that I don't like the
idea of working through 600+ messages in my inbox.
Something which happens on the comp.lang.python newsgroup may be of
value to the future comp.*.vnc gro
> there were only 61 messages in the my VNC group.
The times they are a-changin'...
The VNC newsgroup idea is now 'out of the bottle' - and I don't see it
now having 'the cork put back in'. I suspect that a newsgroup will be
used by a majority of VNC users (and I shamelessly include myself).
Ho
Ok, if someone is going to make a news group, just do it. Enough already.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Warren
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VNC Newsgroup
There are some other options
her/both...
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From: "Carillon, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:51 AM
Subject: RE: VNC Newsgroup
> True but the proxy server blocks www.deja.com. So what do you say to
people
> who fall into my group, have no
$0.02:
There was a lot of heated discussion a few weeks ago about the
signal/noise on the VNC list. I expect a newsgroup will cause
the denominator to increase far more than the numerator, since
most of the "signal" is already subscribed to the list. If
a newsgroup is going to be created (a topic
>This list generates enough traffic that it is a concern to many people in
>charge of mail servers and slow internet connections. Many people that are
>subscribed to this list, by nature, are subscribed to other mailing lists
>and any cut in email traffic is welcome and helpful.
Putting an "ID t
>> No one is whining. That insinuation was pretty rude and not very
insightful. Also, no one is talking about moving anything, only adding
something. Why are you against having another optional way to take part in
discussion about VNC? Or is it that you decided to type and send this
before yo
Would you or someone else please explain to me why you need to filter out
messages that don't pertain to you? What is wrong with reading the subject
header and if it is no interest to you, delete it! I was off work from
Friday night till Tuesday morning, there were only 61 messages in the my VNC
Excerpts from vnc: 23-Jan-101 Even more: RE: VNC Newsgroup by "W. Brian
Blevins"@tridi
> So, I would request that the email list *not* be somehow automatically
> combined with the newsgroup. If news/nntp access is needed and should
> be
> linked to the email list, then
This probably doesn't mean much to those of us without access to the
newsgroups at work.
Deja is nice in a pinch, but I wouldn't use it unless I was looking for
something specific.
Just my two cents.
Doug Griffin
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/01 09:24AM >>>
I have started the process to create
>>On a slightly different, but highly related, note:
>>I have been pondering some method of 'splitting up' the list so
>>that it is easy to filter out messages that you're not likely to
>>read (in my case, pretty much everything about VNC on windows).
Would you or someone else please explain to m
Don't forget that everyone can get to (many/most?) public newsgroups via
www.deja.com - you don't have to use nntp.
Angus.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:49 AM
Subje
> I find that more and more companies to not support a USENET
> feed, perceiving
> that it is mostly used for personal purposes. It is seen as a
> lot of clutter
> for little benefit. It is mostly computer issues where there
> is a strong
> tradition of good USENET support, where USENET is cons
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VNC Newsgroup
>
> > If everyone can receive email and not everyone has access to
> > newsgroups then
n general than most newsgroups. I'm not sure why that is the
case. Maybe the slightly more difficult registration process wards off
some less motivated posters? I would hate to see the signal to noise
ratio change for the worse.
Brian
> RE: VNC Newsgroup
>
> From: Mark J. Lari
> If everyone can receive email and not everyone has access to
> newsgroups then how would it be available to a wider audience?
EMAIL_LIST + NEWSGROUP > EMAIL_LIST
assuming NEWSGROUP > 0 (and I'd like to see you argue it's -ve)
I would hope to see 'mirroring' (i.e. anything posted to list
AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: VNC Newsgroup
>
>
> True this is an unusual case. I work for a police
> department who receives
> internet access from the city. The city controls internet
> access and we
> have no say so on what are us
> True but the proxy server blocks www.deja.com. So what do
You should talk to your administrator
Lars
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police department administrators do not.
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From: Oeschey, Lars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:57 AM
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> firewall that blocks access to newsgroup. If everyone can
> r
> firewall that blocks access to newsgroup. If everyone can
> receive email and
> not everyone has access to newsgroups then how would it be
> available to a
> wider audience?
I'd guess it is rather usual that administrators and the like (which I think
are the primary users of VNC) have access
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From: Ben Prescott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:32 AM
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There are non-newsreader routes into newsgroups. For example, www.deja.com
I couldn't find comp.sys.software on deja, though; I assume this would
start a new
"Carillon, Mike" wrote:
>
> If it were a newsgroup it would be unavailable to myself, who is behind a
> firewall that blocks access to newsgroup. If everyone can receive email and
> not everyone has access to newsgroups then how would it be available to a
> wider audience?
On the other hand, fo
ailable to a
>wider audience?
>
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>From: j.peaks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 7:25 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: VNC Newsgroup
>
>
>Hello everyone!
>
>I am dissapointed to see that this thread has no
Will a message be available to both the mailing list as well as the
newsgroup?
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It's not like anyone is taking away the ma
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Hello everyone!
I am dissapointed to see that this thread has not even received notice from
many people, in particular AT&T. I think it is a very valid point that this
topic should be as bo
Are we talking usenet connected, or a private newsgroup?
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From: "IndyHans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:50 AM
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> I'll make sure AT&T Worldnet adds it
I'll make sure AT&T Worldnet adds it to their servers. Thanks for your
efforts.
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From: "Mark J. Laris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vnc List (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:24 AM
Subject: VNC Newsgroup
> I have started the process to create
Lyon
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:12 AM
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I would prefer a newsgroup, its easier to follow sequences of messages and
replies etc.
Andy
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Sent: 22 January 2001
I would prefer a newsgroup, its easier to follow sequences of messages and
replies etc.
Andy
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Sent: 22 January 2001 16:01
To: 'Tim Waugh'; Vnc List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: VNC Newsgroup
That is entirely up to you
ed if we
had both a mailing list and a newsgroup. I will use the newsgroup.
Mark Laris
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> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:35 AM
> To: Mark J. Laris
> Subject: Re: VNC Newsgroup
>
>
&g
As an ISP greatly interested in VNC, I pledge to carry it.
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> anyway, but feel a
> newsgroup would suit our purposes better.
I have to say that I prefer newsgroups too. Less traffic for our
mail-servers.
Lars
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> -Original Message-
> From: j.peaks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:25 PM
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> Hello everyone!
>
> I am dissapointed to see that this thread has not e
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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:25 PM
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Hello everyone!
I am dissapointed to see that this thread has not even received notice
from
many people, in particular AT&a
continue to regard this mailing list anyway, but feel a
newsgroup would suit our purposes better.
Jeremy Peaks
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From: Steve Bostedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: 02 January 2001 18:22
Subject: RE: VNC Newsgroup
> Why doesn&#
Why doesn't someone open one up at www.egroups.com and start inviting
people?
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Like
Like this topic. These things come up on every list I have been on and
waste more bandwidth than all the non-RTFMers combined. Lets just drop
it and get on with VNC.
When someone asks how to get rid of the icon, let the first person to
see it point them to the archive or RTFM an
A newsgroup would not serve the needs of all VNC users. I for one as well
as many others I am sure do not have newsgroup access through their work's
internet connection. Therefore there might be something posted on the
newsgroup that would be valuable to me and I wouldn't know about it. What
go
The OpenBSD list seems to do this. I'm not sure how, though.
You can check out http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html.
-ME
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Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2001 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: VNC
Why not both, usenet and this mailing list ? Then everybody is happy... Is there a
way to connect both to eachother ?
Regards,
Dries Feys -- Software Engineer
TVH forklift parts -- Thermote & Vanhalst NV
Driemasten 120-126 -- B-8560 Gullegem-Belgium
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Hi,
I'd also rather have this list as a newsgroup so that I do not receive
all posts automatically. Recently the activity on the list has increased
to some 20-30 messages a day which is a little inconvenient to skim
through.
There are, on the other hand, positive side effects of the present for
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> I couldn't agree more!
>
> Jeremy Peaks
> - Original Message -
> From: Mark J. Laris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Vnc-List (E-mail) <[EMA
I couldn't agree more!
Jeremy Peaks
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From: Mark J. Laris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Vnc-List (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 01 January 2001 22:15
Subject: VNC Newsgroup
> Is there a VNC Newsgroup? I have not been able to find one. While the
> mailing list is ok, t
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