Re: VNC is "hackable" (was "VPN and VNC")

2002-08-30 Thread Jonathan Morton
>>>Unless you have added encryption to it, the passwords are not encrypted. >> >>Please explain the discrepancy between the claim above and FAQ #55: > >I will freely admit that I have not studied the source code >thoroughly. I can think of three possible explanations for >the discrepancy. There

RE: Inactive VNC sessions timeout

2002-08-30 Thread "Beerse, Corné"
> -Original Message- > From: William Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > - Original Message - > From: "Jeffery Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I seem to remember an earlier discussion about this but > can't seem to locate in my archives. > > I would like to be able to disconnect se

RE: Display number with inetd

2002-08-30 Thread "Beerse, Corné"
> -Original Message- > From: William Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > - Original Message - > From: "Marc Mazas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'm on Solaris 8, with VNC 3.3.3R2 (Solaris 2.5 bundle). > > I've an application (ERP Oracle Applications through Apache > JServ) that > > nee

Password Shift

2002-08-30 Thread Marc DVer
On one of my Windows 2000 servers, the password to get into VNC is one string when not there is noone logged into the server locally, but another when there is a session active locally. I had changed the password some time ago, which is effective when there is a session logged in locally, but the

Re: Multiple Servers on a Win Machine...

2002-08-30 Thread Chad LaFarge
[bigger snip] > > [snip] > > In other words, I need to give a demo to five remote users on a PC that I > can't access > > physically. > > > > In order to achieve this, I need to be able to have one of two things: > > > > 1) Two VNC Servers running on the same Windows machine: one for the > "Cont

RE: Password Shift

2002-08-30 Thread Floyd Russell
This always seems to throw people, perhaps it should be documented better. IF you are running windows as a service you have two passwords for VNC. The first is the default password. This in theory would be a password that everyone that has access to a VNC server would use to connect, as long as n

RE: starting Xvnc at boot time as non root user

2002-08-30 Thread Weiss, Benjamin
I tried that setup, and couldn't get it to work on RedHat 7.3. I finally just went back to the default installation. -- BENJAMIN J. WEISS Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation MIS Division Software R&D Branch Manager -Original Message- From: David Colliver

RE: Inactive VNC sessions timeout

2002-08-30 Thread Jeffery Myers
Very true. The issue I have noticed is people opening a session and leaving it minimized on their desktop for literally days on end. Developers are a different bunch. Any suggestions? j -Original Message- From: William Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002

Re: Multiple Servers on a Win Machine...

2002-08-30 Thread William Hooper
-- William Hooper Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot - Original Message - From: "Chad LaFarge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:18 AM Subject: Re: Multiple Servers on a Win Machine... > [bigger snip] > > > > [snip] > > >

RE: Password Shift

2002-08-30 Thread Steve Palocz
Yes, Set the default password via start -> program -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default password. (please note that the current user password is not necessary, only the system password is mandatory. REALVNC Team: Could this be changed in the next version. Most configuration problems are

Lost Mouse Pointer...

2002-08-30 Thread Chad LaFarge
I need the viewers to be able to see the mouse pointer as it moves on the serving machine. I could swear this has worked by default in the past. The purpose for this is in doing presentations and demonstrations, it's nice to be able to point to something with the mouse pointer and say "look her

RE: Password Shift

2002-08-30 Thread Floyd Russell
Or, an alternative would be to have an "auto-logout" feature that logs the user out when VNC closes. This may help to drive home the idea of a "machine" password and "session" passwords. Floyd Russell |> -Original Message- |> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On |> Behalf

Re: Multiple Servers on a Win Machine...

2002-08-30 Thread William Hooper
> It won't allow me to have a second instance on which to set a second display number. > > Chad Yes you are correct. My only plea is temporary insanity :-) I was thinking I had done this in the past, but it must have been with something other than VNC. -- William Hooper ___

RE: Inactive VNC sessions timeout

2002-08-30 Thread "Beerse, Corné"
> -Original Message- > From: Jeffery Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Very true. The issue I have noticed is people opening a > session and leaving it minimized on their desktop for > literally days on end. Developers are a different bunch. > Any suggestions? Don't bother the de

Re: Password Shift

2002-08-30 Thread Marc DVer
Thanks. Is there any way of setting up VNC such that there is only one password, short of editing the code? Sincerely, Marc DVer - Original Message - From: "Floyd Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: RE: Password Shift > Th

RE: Lost Mouse Pointer...

2002-08-30 Thread "Beerse, Corné"
> -Original Message- > From: Chad LaFarge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I need the viewers to be able to see the mouse pointer as it > moves on the serving machine. > I could swear this has worked by default in the past. THis is a setting in the server machines desktop settings. To avoid

Re: Multiple Servers on a Win Machine...

2002-08-30 Thread Chad LaFarge
In case someone missed it... I've tried to run separate servers and on separate display numbers, and it does not happen... at least not on my Win 2k. Also, no option for a second password. Maybe I am an idiot. Perhaps, if you have the answer that will work for me, you should describe the steps

RE: Password Shift

2002-08-30 Thread Floyd Russell
Not that I'm aware of. Floyd |> -Original Message- |> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On |> Behalf Of Marc DVer |> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:37 AM |> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> Subject: Re: Password Shift |> |> |> Thanks. |> |> Is there any way of setting up VNC such

NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
Twice now, I have been in a session. I have inadvertently closed the VNC client. Then, the client can no longer establish a connection. We check. VNC is STILL running as a Service. If we stop and then start VNC, then it works again. In each instance there was an abnormal abort on one of the

re: version

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
oh, yes, I recall - winVNC -about ==>version 3.3.3 R9 (maybe something to add to the FAQ) Curtiss -- W. Curtiss Priest, Director, CITS Center for Information, Technology & Society 466 Pleasant St., Melrose, MA 02176 Voice: 781-662-4044 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Lost Mouse Pointer...

2002-08-30 Thread Chad LaFarge
I'm a little confused. What can I do at the server to make all incoming connections see the server's pointer and not affect it's position? I experimented with a client, setting "Cursor Share Updates" to "disabled", which makes it viewable in the browser for the one user. How do I force that

Font problems ..

2002-08-30 Thread Robert Upshall
Hi, I am new to VNC and have a question about a problem I am getting with fonts. I have a vncserver running on a slackware linux box, I am connecting with a Windows 2000 vncviewer. My problem is, when I use Enlightenment as the windows manager, some of the themes/fonts do not work with the vnc

Windows XP remote desktop versus VNC

2002-08-30 Thread Freddy Jensen
Bringing my Office Unix/Xwindows desktop to my home machine (WinXP Pro) has always been very efficient with VNC, but using VNC to bring my office WinXP desktop to my home machine has always been very sluggish and not efficient enough to use on a regular basis. But now I just tried WinXP's remote

RE: Password Shift

2002-08-30 Thread Thompson, Dale W.
Yes, certainly there is a way since I do it all the time. One password is set under HKLM\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default and none anywhere else. And to stop it from happening in the future, do not allow the user to set a password. Do not have any passwords for VNC under HKEY_USERS at all. Hope this

RE: Password Shift

2002-08-30 Thread Steve Palocz
Yes, Just set the default (system password) You can delete the current user password from the registry hkey_current_user/software/orl/winvnc3 I have been running with one password for about 2 years now. No problem. I can run as a service, I can even start it in app mode. Steve -Original Mess

RE: Password Shift

2002-08-30 Thread Floyd Russell
Cool, thanks for pointing that out Steve. Floyd |> -Original Message- |> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On |> Behalf Of Steve Palocz |> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:35 AM |> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> Subject: RE: Password Shift |> |> |> Yes, Just set the default (

RE: Windows XP remote desktop versus VNC

2002-08-30 Thread Steve Palocz
I have to make a statement here. Yes on Unix it is faster. But with tightvnc and a solid colour on the desktop (no picture) at 8bit res I find it to be quite acceptable. I have tried the xp terminal services but have found that vnc is just as fast if you tweak it. Now I just started using Esvnc,

TR : VNC with Solaris 8 F3 fonts

2002-08-30 Thread Marc Mazas
> HI > > I'm on Solaris 8, with VNC 3.3.3R2 (Solaris 2.5 bundle). > I've a Java application that uses the standard JDK font.properties > which references the zapfdingbats font, which is available only as a > F3 font on my server. > > Xvnc complains if I try to include the F3 font directory in Xv

TR : Display number with inetd

2002-08-30 Thread Marc Mazas
Thanks Bill and Steve If I understand correctly your answers, the -inetd argument of Xvnc causes this one to always ignore the :XX display number argument but find the next available one. I can understand the rationale, since this is intended to serve many users. But I think it would be much bet

RE: Multiple Servers on a Win Machine...

2002-08-30 Thread Rudi De Vos
What you want to do just don't work with the standard vncserver. The server only allows one instance. You can remove the part from the code and start 2 winvnvsrv...but cpu and bandwidth goes up What you wonna do is part of the vdacc-vnc. +A little tool show all viewer connections, you can se

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Bruce Lilly
From: "W. Curtiss Priest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:10:42 -0400 Twice now, I have been in a session. I have inadvertently closed the VNC client. Then, the client can no longer establish a connection. We check. VNC is STILL running as a Ser

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Chris Dillon
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Bruce Lilly wrote: > Twice now, I have been in a session. I have inadvertently > closed the VNC client. > > Then, the client can no longer establish a connection. > > We check. VNC is STILL running as a Service. If we stop > and then start VNC

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
Bruce Lilly wrote: > > What exactly happens when you restart the client? > e.g. "Failed to connect to server" yes, that message. > > What happens if you telnet to the server's port 5900 from the > client? UUm. I will try that, just hard to reproduce the connection, the server is mostly unatt

RE: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Thompson, Dale W.
I know I don't set both passwords. Never have. I have always used just one password, regardless of whether someone is logged in to the machine or not. Of course, I don't get the "failed to connect" message either. Well, I have received it, but not because of a password problem. Off hand, it sound

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
Thinking about the problem. I have a temporary workaround (as long as I DON't click on the VNC client window close icon -- really too easy to do -- would love a "Do you really want to close VNC?" I have put this batch file VNC Close.cmd on the desktop. net stop winVNC net start

RE: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Chris Dillon
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Thompson, Dale W. wrote: > I know I don't set both passwords. Never have. I have always used > just one password, regardless of whether someone is logged in to the > machine or not. > > Of course, I don't get the "failed to connect" message either. Well, > I have received it,

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
Bruce Lilly wrote: > What happens if you telnet to the server's port 5900 from the > client? OK. Had the the failure. I tried a telnet to port 5900, and "Could not open a connection to 216.87.100.43:5900" (But, even a telnet session to a working copy of the VNC Server (located on a machine he

RE: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Steve Palocz
No, He is saying that if you telnet to port 5900 you should get a rfb 003.003 response. Not could not open connection. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of W. Curtiss Priest Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

RE: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Jacob Hoover
No, the client dosen't have a telnet option. You should be able to use your browser and check as well. (http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:5900) H... Guard Thy Public IP Jake Hoover -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of W. Curtiss Priest Sent: Frida

TightVNC 1.2.6 released

2002-08-30 Thread Constantin Kaplinsky
Hello everyone, I'm glad to inform you that new TightVNC 1.2.6 version is available. It does not include a major new features, its main release focus is to fix the problems in the Unix part introduced in the previous release. TightVNC is a VNC distribution with many new features, improvements,

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
Uum. This is not the case. I have VNC server running under NT4 on a local machine 10.0.0.3 I am able to run the client from local machine 10.0.0.1 I am able to connect to VNC. But. If I click on Start (on machine 10.0.0.1, Win95), type in: telnet 10.0.0.3:5900 it clearly states:

Re: Man pages - command options?

2002-08-30 Thread William Hooper
- Original Message - From: "Akira Hatakeyama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Man pages - command options? > On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 03:53:24PM +0700, Constantin Kaplinsky wrote: > > Also, TightVNC man pages are available on

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
Ah. The telnet client in Netscape differs from the commandline telnet client of Windows95. I do indeed get rfb 003.003 from the local, working VNC server, from inside the browser. (some of us forget there is even a telnet client in browsers :) I still get, contacting the hung VNC server, after

Re: Need settings for the USR8000A

2002-08-30 Thread Scott C. Best
Michael: Hello! I looked thru the documentation for the 8000A (found here: http://www.usr.com/support/8000a02/8000a02-online-manual/three.html), and can suggest this: Go to the "Virtual Server" pages in the Administrator Menu, not the "Special Applications" page. In "Virtual Serv

RE: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Jacob Hoover
No, I really ment HTTP. I don't use Netscape, but I know I.E. works. Jake Hoover -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of W. Curtiss Priest Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Proble

RE: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Jacob Hoover
I'm not shure if the Win95 telnet client supports port settings in the command line. You might want to try to connect via your web browser. Jake Hoover -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of W. Curtiss Priest Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:32

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread William Hooper
- Original Message - From: "W. Curtiss Priest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung [snip] > If I click on Start (on machine 10.0.0.1, Win95), type in: > > telnet 10.0.0.3:5900

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
Jacob Hoover wrote: > > I'm not shure if the Win95 telnet client supports port settings in the > command line. You might want to try to connect via your web browser. Yes, you are right. The choices in both Win95 and Window 3.11 for telnet ports are only: telnet daytime

remove from list

2002-08-30 Thread Allen, Donna N
Please remove me from the mailing list. I tried sending it in as requested, but keep getting the mail anyway. Sorry for any inconvenience to the group. Thank you. Donna ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listi

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
Jacob Hoover wrote: > > No, I really ment HTTP. I don't use Netscape, but I know I.E. works. huh. >From within IE 5.5 for Windows and Netscape 4.79 for Windows, this does work: telnet 10.0.0.3:5900 I DO get RFB 003.003 from the local, working VNC. But, any attempt to use http in th

Re: Display number with inetd

2002-08-30 Thread William Hooper
- Original Message - From: "Marc Mazas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: TR : Display number with inetd [snip] > In my case, the display number is a fixed configuration parameter of the > Apache Jserv server, and there is only on

Firewall (?) problem

2002-08-30 Thread Heather Smith
OK let me say up front I am a dummy. Not completely stupid, just relatively computer illiterate. I may be beyond helping, and if so just say so. I've gone thru the archives for hours trying to find a solution to my problem, and every once in a while I think I've found the answer, but then th

Re: TightVNC 1.2.6 released

2002-08-30 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 03:12:19 +0700 Constantin Kaplinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm glad to inform you that new TightVNC 1.2.6 version is available. It's excellent! I just grabbed a copy for Linux and distributed it over my home network and it's working like a charm.

Re: Firewall (?) problem

2002-08-30 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
Dear Heather, The browser uses port 80. VNC wants to use port 5900. And the browser will not be a proper client for VNC, so you need to use the VNC client. So. You can only do this by making a request to your administrator to permit port 5900 for the VNC application on your machine behind the

RE: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Steve Palocz
Yes, I just think it is a space not a colon : Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jacob Hoover Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung I'm not shu

RE: Firewall (?) problem

2002-08-30 Thread Weiss, Benjamin
Shouldn't there be a way to set the VNC server on her home computer to listen on port 80 instead of port 5900? Then she could use the client to attach to her home computer, since the firewall is obviously allowing port 80 through the firewall... -- BENJAMIN J. WEISS O

Re: Firewall (?) problem

2002-08-30 Thread William Hooper
- Original Message - From: "Heather Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Firewall (?) problem [snip] > Work machine (would be viewer) is running NT, and is behind a firewall. There is no way in hell any of the network people are

RE: Display number with inetd

2002-08-30 Thread Steve Palocz
The Way I do it is: Have a shell script running another shell script The first one is setup without the & then a $0 next line to reload this file. Now the second file Runs Xvnc with the commands. /usr/local/bin/Xvnc :1 -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16 -once -query localhost -httpd /usr/local/vnc/clas

Re: Firewall (?) problem

2002-08-30 Thread William Hooper
- Original Message - From: "W. Curtiss Priest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Firewall (?) problem > Dear Heather, [snip] > There are two levels of protection: > > 1. Permit any port 5900 communications > 2. Permit ONLY po

RE: Firewall (?) problem

2002-08-30 Thread Stewart Thompson
Heather: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Heather Smith Sent: August 30, 2002 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Firewall (?) problem OK let me say up front I am a dummy. Not completely stupid, just relatively computer illiterate.

Re: Firewall (?) problem

2002-08-30 Thread Dustin Johnson
Heather, I applaud your honesty. It is uncommon to see people on the internet that actually give a real account of their knowledge. Now, to the point. There are ways to tunnel the traffic that usually flows on ports 5900(VNC viewer) or 5800(Browser interface) through a port that your works

Re: [despammed] Re: VNC is "hackable" (was "VPN and VNC")

2002-08-30 Thread Wes Groleau
>> 3. Several people on VNC mailing lists don't know >>as much as they seem to know. > > I think most of the "old timers" know enough - VNC is a simple enough > system that it's hard to forget. My comment was a sneaky way of admitting that I made the mistake of hearing people who sounded lik

Re: NT5 / Windows 2000 Server Problem -- session gets hung

2002-08-30 Thread Bruce Lilly
>>>I do indeed get rfb 003.003 from the local, working VNC server, >>>from inside the browser. (some of us forget there is even >>>a telnet client in browsers :) >>> >>>I still get, contacting the hung VNC server, after about a 20 second >>>delay: >>> >>> "Could not open a connection to 216.8

Re: Windows XP remote desktop versus VNC

2002-08-30 Thread Akira Hatakeyama
Greetings. On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 08:26:19AM -0700, Freddy Jensen wrote: > But now I just tried WinXP's remote desktop feature > and discovered that it works great. It is much faster > than VNC, and it doesn't have any of the occassional > redraw problems that VNC has. Apparently it works > jus

Re: Man pages - command options?

2002-08-30 Thread Akira Hatakeyama
Greetings. On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 04:36:37PM -0400, William Hooper wrote: > > Is there any WinVNC Advanced Setting equivalent for TightVNC ? > > > > -- > > Akira Hatakeyama > > For WinVNC you need to edit the registry directly. Docs are at > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/winvnc.html . I'

Re: Font problems ..

2002-08-30 Thread Akira Hatakeyama
Greetings. On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:41:23AM -0500, Robert Upshall wrote: > themes/fonts do not work with the vnc server/viewer. These themes/fonts > work fine when I startx on the machine running the vncserver, but when I > start a client viewer, the fonts show all character as blocks. Some