ked.dnswl.org txt @127.0.0.1 +short
"no"
It looks like the above test is definitive and works regardless of what
other codes might be returned.
Peter
They abandaoned the motto in 2018.
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On 12/11/2021 at 3:33 PM Philip Prindeville wrote:
>
>What... you mean "do no evil" is just lip-service? I'm so... so...
>disillusioned!
>
>-Philip
Hi,
New to TXrep, the manual says the add-addr-to-whitelist command should add
-100, but for me it doesn't do anything - nor does add-addr-to-blacklist.
It comes back with SpamAssassin TxRep: 1 with either the white or
blacklist.
While the server is new, I want to be able to adjust a senders sc
I just want the command to work as advertised. It worked for AWL on my
older system, made life a lot easier.
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On 16/12/2021 at 9:36 AM Greg Troxel wrote:
>"Peter" writes:
>
>> New to TXrep, the manual says the add-addr-to-whiteli
mail server without RBL blocking?
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On 16/12/2021 at 10:01 AM Greg Troxel wrote:
>Hey Peter: Your mailserver appears to be a bit aggressive and is
>blocking mail from people on the list who are replying to you:
>
> : host acemail1.ace.net.au[15
es to your posts?
Is this post better?
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On 16/12/2021 at 9:28 PM Antony Stone wrote:
>On Thursday 16 December 2021 at 21:21:28, Peter wrote:
>
>> I was thinking that replies would show up here.
>
>> Perhaps I should create an account on
another email in future.
Relief...
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On 17/12/2021 at 1:16 AM Peter wrote:
>I just want the command to work as advertised. It worked for AWL on my
>older system, made life a lot easier.
>
>
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>
>
Using Sendmail.
I added milter-regex which allows very simple rules eg.
reject "Unsolicited Spam" - make this as rude as you like.
body /I RECORDED YOU/i
Done and dusted.
It's available as an RPM frpm epel for RedHat and variants.
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On 11/11/2023 at
Hi,
I have been getting spam from outlook.com (surprise) and a defining feature
is that the same emnail address is used as the To: and CC: address.
Is there a way for Spamassassin to detect that?
Thanks.
Hi Kevin,
I am just trying this and getting the same error. Did you work out how to
fix this?
Cheers,
Peter
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On 25/10/2017 at 6:41 PM Kevin Miller wrote:
Implemented it on one of my tier 2 mx hosts. No hits so far, but Im not
sure if its working or
I have a FreeBSD machine running qmail, SpamAssassin and ClamAV. The machine
is receiving 200,000 e-mail messages per day, courtesy of Rumpelstiltskin
attacks from thousands of different IP addresses each day, and SpamAssassin
appears to be overwhelmed. I have about 50,000 e-mail messages in
At 09:22 AM 8/19/2007, Michael Scheidell wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:25 PM
>> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>> Subject: How do I temporarily disable SpamAssassin?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a FreeB
Thanks, John, but now I'm totally baffled and suspicious that something's
really screwed up. What do you make of this transcript:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/peter]$ cd /usr/local/etc/rc.d/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/etc/rc.d]$ ls -la
total 26
drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Ap
Bingo! SpamAssassin and ClamAV are supposedly stopped.
--
At 09:05 PM 8/19/2007, Dave Pooser wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/etc/rc.d]$ sa-spamd.sh stop
>> bash: sa-spamd.sh: command not found
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/etc/rc.d]$ clamav-clamd.sh stop
>> bash: clamav-clamd.sh
After stopping SpamAssassin messages like these are appearing in
/var/log/maillog:
Aug 19 21:23:19 erebus spamc[20803]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1
failed, retrying (#3 of 3): Connection refused
Aug 19 21:23:20 erebus spamc[20853]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1
failed, ret
Darn. Okay. Thanks.
-
At 09:39 PM 8/19/2007, Dave Pooser wrote:
>> After stopping SpamAssassin messages like these are appearing in
>> /var/log/maillog:
>>
>> Aug 19 21:23:19 erebus spamc[20803]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1
>> failed, retrying (#3 of 3): Connection refused
>
Worried that I might be preventing all mail from passing through the system, I
rebooted the server after disabling SpamAssassin and ClamAV, so they're running
again. My remote mail queue is continuing to grow -- there are now 79,110
messages in the remote queue. ps -ax | grep -c qmail-remote
At 11:08 PM 8/19/2007, Gary V wrote:
>>Worried that I might be preventing all mail from passing through the system,
>>I rebooted the server after disabling SpamAssassin and ClamAV, so they're
>>running again. My remote mail queue is continuing to grow -- there are now
>>79,110 messages in the
At 01:05 AM 8/20/2007, Robert - elists wrote:
>> >
>>
>> It's not a solution. It's an attempt to get the toilet unplugged while the
>> plumber is on the way. The change should be reverted one the system is
>> properly configured. The main problem is all we really know is that the
>> MTA
>> is qma
lem e-mail messages to the
machine on which physical mailboxes and e-mail aliases are located.
--
At 10:23 AM 8/20/2007, Gary V wrote:
>>http://marc.info/?l=qmail&m=118749326201041
>>
>>I feel for Peter, it appears the qmail list is not much help either.
>
>But I
Hi. Yesterday I installed SA 3.1.0 by Perl module. I am using it with
amavisd-new 2.3.3. I am getting these messages when I start amavisd-new:
[12981] info: config: failed to parse line, skipping: use_auto_whitelist 1
[12981] info: config: failed to parse line, skipping: use_razor2 1
[12981] in
--- Michael Monnerie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sonntag, 4. Dezember 2005 19:05 Peter wrote:
> > [12981] info: config: failed to parse line, skipping:
> > use_auto_whitelist 1 [12981] info: config: failed to parse line,
> > skipping: use_razor2 1 [12981] info: c
g_score} in our eval rule, we get
an error saying it is uninitialized.
So, do we need to call check_start on our own somewhere? The docs say it
is a callback that SA calls.
thanks for any help.
Peter
Problem solved. I was not acquiring the PerMsgStatus object correctly
from the options passed to "check_start".
I misled myself with the ReplaceTags plugin using the variable "$pms" and I
thought that was the PerMsgStatus object. But in that code,
$pms->{permsgstatus} is it.
thanks
I have seen a lot of buzz around FuzzyOCR lately but by looking at its
web site it shows that the project started only last month. Is this
tool really advisable on a serious system?
PM
Le Lundi 12 Février 2007 12:06, Gary V a écrit :
> > > > Is this tool really advisable on a serious system?
> > >
> > > It works fine, I would recommend it.
> >
> >Be aware that it may give you some false positives on images with
> > texts. Even in pt_BR (in my case).
> >
> >-Raul Dias
>
> I also g
to
host
000
Performing preliminary lint (sanity check; does the CURRENT config lint?).
I am running OpenBSD 3.8 on this server for a month now with no such
errors. Any ideas? My internet connection is fine. It is something to
do with curl perhaps?
-
--- Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A couple of hours ago I started seeing errors regarding RDJ:
>
> exec: curl -w %{http_code} --compressed -O -R -s -S -z
> /var/amavisd/etc/mail/spamassassin/RulesDuJour/rules_du_jour
> http://sandgnat.com/rdj/rules_du_jour 2>&a
--- Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter wrote:
> > False alarm. I wasn't aware I needed outgoing port 80 open for RDJ.
> > Strange I never got these errors before. Does it only use curl when
> it
> > detects (how?) an update is required?
> &g
--- Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter wrote:
> > False alarm. I wasn't aware I needed outgoing port 80 open for RDJ.
> > Strange I never got these errors before. Does it only use curl when
> it
> > detects (how?) an update is required?
> &g
--- Robert Menschel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> Wednesday, January 11, 2006, 7:31:39 PM, you wrote:
>
> P> Looks like I had two problems simultaneously. The update issue was
> not
> P> causing the error it seems. The real problem I'm en
I have a client who complains that one of their own clients cannot send mail
to them. The sender has performed a simple SMTP transmission and receives
the following error:
SMTP Error 4570:
Illegal response to the sender(550):
550 5.7.1 H:MXB<>Connection refused to due abuse
I realize this is a
[8729] info: rules: meta test SARE_HTML_URI_OBFU4 has undefined
dependency '__SARE_HEAD_FALSE'
[8729] info: rules: meta test DIGEST_MULTIPLE has undefined
dependency 'PYZOR_CHECK'
[8729] info: rules: meta test SARE_HTML_MANY_BR10 has undefined
dependency '__SARE_HEAD_FALSE'
[8729] info: rules: m
've hunted through the links and the DNSWL.org site and cannot find any
reference to 10,000 queries per 30 days. I do find lots of references
to the 100,000 queries per day limit, though. Can you point out exactly
where the 10,000 reference is?
Thanks,
Peter
At 25 October, 2020 Marc Roos wrote:
> From: Marc Roos
> To: mysqlstudent , users
>
> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 18:57:27 +0100
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-13.2 required=4.0
> tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,
> RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,
> UR
trick?
Is there a finer subdivision of the From header; into name and address, for
example.
peter
—
p...@ehealth.id.au
“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax
collector.”
Well, that was simple. Thank you. What’s the default value of a rule? Does it
have one?
—
p...@ehealth.id.au
“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax
collector.”
> On 14 Mar 2021, at 11:41 pm, Alex Woick wrote:
>
> Peter West schrieb am 14.03.2021
ombs will hear his voice and come
out…”
> On 15 Mar 2021, at 1:29 am, John Hardin wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021, jwmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Peter West writes:
>>
>> And You might want to fix the URIBL_BLOCKED issue. Fixing the
>> URIBL_BLOCKED issue wi
I’d agree it’s address verification, as with the Unsubscribe link at the bottom.
—
Peter West
p...@ehealth.id.au
“He has risen…”
> On 6 Apr 2021, at 12:30 pm, Grant Taylor wrote:
>
> On 4/5/21 7:30 PM, John Hardin wrote:
>> Can anybody explain to me the reason behind the blind
Yes. I meant the unsubscribe link from an unknown advertiser.
—
Peter West
p...@ehealth.id.au
“He has risen…”
> On 6 Apr 2021, at 12:50 pm, Grant Taylor wrote:
>
> On 4/5/21 8:41 PM, Peter West wrote:
>> I’d agree it’s address verification, as with the Unsubscribe link at
If you have a JVM lying around, you can extract docx text with Apache Tika.
—
Peter West
p...@ehealth.id.au
“I am the vine; you are the branches.”
> On 7 May 2021, at 2:30 pm, John Hardin wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2021, Alex wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm t
How to you add GEO -IP restrictions to local.cf
(sorry if this is a
repost, I dont see my messages coming through...the irony of
spamassassin.apache.org trapping my request for help as spam. I
have snipped the logfile entries which I think were causing it to
be tagged as spam)
All of my messages
On 05/31/2016 04:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 31.05.2016 um 23:58 schrieb Peter Carlson:
May 30 09:04:53 www amavis[16577]: (16577-03) Passed CLEAN
{RelayedInbound}, Tests:
[BAYES_00=-1.9,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001,SPF_PASS=-0.001,URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001],
autolearn=ham
.
Thanks for the responses, i do appreciate the help.
Peter
The final configuration is scripted
training (note not auto_learn) done on ham and spam folders.
Peter
ible allow execution of some form of
injected code. Or is this really just a case of "general best
practices", "run as little as possible as root"? (Please dont read
anything into my questions, I am truly curious)
Peter
On 06/01/2016 09:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 02.
Hello list,
I'm playing around with sa-compile in an attempt to improve performance,
but I have a couple of questions that I can't find answered in the online
docs.
1) After compiling, my compiled ruleset is stored in
/var/lib/spamassassin/compiled/5.014/3.004001. Do I now need to remove my
rules
>> 1) After compiling, my compiled ruleset is stored in
>> /var/lib/spamassassin/compiled/5.014/3.004001. Do I now need to
>> remove my rules from /etc/mail/spamassassin/
>
> You don't need to remove anything.
>
> The stock rules aren't stored there anyway, it's just local rules.
Ahh, I think perh
How are RCVD_IN_* rules implemented Karsten?
I have similar spam being sent from such addresses as
bidwars.uy...@trgide.soldiersupplywell.net and I dont see that rule in the
matching rules
Running mailwatch for mailscanner with spamassassin
Thanks
peter
-Original Message-
From
I confirm that on revisiting, RCVD_IN_* rules are implemented - thanks for your
help
Peter
-Original Message-
From: Karsten Bräckelmann [mailto:guent...@rudersport.de]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2010 11:41 a.m.
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Constant .info domain spam
re are no cases where this also will
mysteriously match without any apparent reason, but so this seems to
work ...
Regards,
Peter
simple visual sifting
# without risking lost emails.
report_safe 0
required_hits 7.5
thank you,
peter t.
eing processed by SA as
a "received by" whereas on mine it is not. I've read & grepped through his
SARE ruleset and we cannot find anything that would seem related to enabling
this feature, which is really puzzling me.
Any help would be appreciated :)
Thanks,
Peter
--
V
Greylisting would just mean the first one would be delayed - the rest would
go through as they are identical emails.
I would be looking to use Fail2ban as a solution depending on what your
logs show.
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On 2/09/2011 at 12:14 PM John Hardin wrote:
>On Fri,
Hallo,
Is it possible to somehow instruct spamassassin to mark messages as spam when
those messages are in Postfix queue?
The ideal in my mind is to get the queue id of the spam message and somehow
extract it from the queue and then use it to train spamassassin. Is it possible?
My setup is post
Απο: Tom Kinghorn
Προς: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Στάλθηκε: 10:55 π.μ. Πέμπτη, 8 Μαρτίου 2012
Θεμα: Re: Mark message as spam from Postfix Queue
On 08/03/2012 10:52, Peter Tselios wrote:
Hallo,
>
>Is it possible to somehow instruct spamassassin to mark messages as spam when
No! Erik you are my God!
That ***excactly*** what I want to do!
Tell me how you did the 1st step...
Peter
Απο: Per-Erik Persson
Προς: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Στάλθηκε: 9:31 μ.μ. Πέμπτη, 8 Μαρτίου 2012
Θεμα: Re: Mark message as spam from Postfix Queue
Good morning,
I noticed that for users originating from my networks, the X-Spam headers are
not added to the messages. Is that due to the "trusted_networks" settings? If
so, does that mean that spamassassin does not check them?
P.
Setup is:
Stock Postfix of CentOS 6, Amavisd-new, SpamAssassin 3.3.1
Network Flow is:
(Incoming)
Internet-->Antispam/Relay Server-->Antivirus Server-->Mailbox
Outgoing:
Webmail-->Antivirus-->Antispam-->Internet
Actually, the problem is more "intense" I believe.
The issue is that not even t
> check local_domain in amavisd.conf
What do you mean to check at the local_domain? Should it have a specific value?
I will check next Monday morning, but my feeling is that the @local_domains_acl
is not set.
But according to what is in the NOTE, it is implied that the headers are added
to incoming emails only.
This it not what I want...
P.
learn --dump magic
-db-path=...' to confirm that the files aren't corrupt.
In the spamasssin config files I have:
bayes_path = /var/lib/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes
All seems ok, yes? I
Thanks,
Peter Smith
Hi All I am completely new to writing rules in Spamassassin and would love
some help. I have a Domain called say domain.com and of course if anyone
sends mail from outside the domain addressed as coming from u...@domain.com
it should be spam. I want to block all these as spam except if it is coming
Hi Benny,
This has nothing to do with URIBL. It has always been blocked for me. I am
in the process of paying for their service. It has always been like that,
yet the 0.0 scores only started last week. Been running for months before
that.
Peter
On 11 September 2015 at 13:38, Benny Pedersen
.st...@spamassassin.open.source.it> wrote:
> > On 09/11/2015 01:17 PM, Peter Kelly wrote:
>
> > > - Are you using a local, non forwarding, DNS resolver/caching server ?
> > >
> > > No
>
> > > - Are you handling mail for a company, personal email, ISP, one domain,
http://pastebin.com/8eM88hX2
On 11 September 2015 at 13:08, Axb wrote:
> On 09/11/2015 01:17 PM, Peter Kelly wrote:
>
>> - How are you using SA?
>> (pls specify: amavis, MIMEDefang, a milter, Mailscanner, procmail,
>> Fuglu, etc, etc)
>>
>> Just spamassassin on
DNS nameserver for the RELAY and TRUSTED problem.
On 11 September 2015 at 21:58, Bill Cole <
sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote:
> On 11 Sep 2015, at 6:12, Peter Kelly wrote:
>
> Hi,
>>
>> Starting on 3rd Sept, I have seen a huge number of 0.0 sc
Sorry, yeah - all BAYES rules were gone after --clear. When I trained it
with another fresh 1000 spam and ham it started again with BAYES_00. I will
need to go through the spam and ham again
On 11 September 2015 at 23:26, RW wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:25:46 +0100
> Peter Kelly
seems that at that time, such configuration was not possible).
Hence: Can I, and if so, how can I configure SpamAssassin to run certain
tests only after other tests have been run, under the condition that the
classification result is not yet certain?
Thanks a lot!
Best,
o span the range 27 to 37.
Are you telling me that the classification result is uncertain as long
as the two tests have not been run?
Nevertheless, thank you for your answer. In any case, as far as my
original question is concerned, I'm as informed as before, and I'd
appreciate a
ding unnecessary queries helps!
So, while I'm glad that we've clarified all this, I don't think that any
of this was actually directly related to my question.
Reminder: My question was not "how to run DNS efficiently" or "how does
SpamAssassin run DNS queries", my questi
not via a cron job. What else do I need to
configure to ensure it works every time?
Peter Hutchison MCP
Senior Network Systems Specialist
* 01484 473716
Networks Team
University of Huddersfield | Queensgate | Huddersfield | HD1 3DH
[logo_lftcert_sysadmin_small] [MCP_logo_small] [ITIL Foundation
/spamassassin
(Debian-spamd's home folder) seems to have helped. I will leave it
A few days more to ensure its working ok.
Peter Hutchison MCP
Senior Network Systems SpecialistS
S 01484 473716
Networks Team
University of Huddersfield | Queensgate | Huddersfield | HD1 3DH
> -Original
Apparently hawking Rolexes is the in thing with spammers these days. I
haven't seen any rulesets around that would help combat it, so I wrote
one.
It's available at http://www.violetdreams.com/sa/rolex.cf if anyone would
like to try it or critique it.
It was written and tested under SA 3.0.1
hi
has anybody a working config for spamassassin whit spf...i got spf
aktive (plugin in init.pre) but i haven't seen any mails spamassassin
does mark whit spf-rules...i am using spamassassin through amvisd-new...
bit less strict at the moment) but I don't know how a
Chinese-detection-rule should be made... do you have any ideas?
Thanks and kind regards
Peter
I have just installed 3.0.1 on my OpenBSD 3.6 stable (Nov. 16) system using
cpan. I can't seem
to locate the spamd daemon although the spamc client is there. It's curious
because OpenBSD
already has a daemon named spamd. Also, if anyone has any experience running
SA with
smtp-vilter (a sendma
Hi, I am currently on dial-up but I have spamassassin installed and spamd is
running. I would
like to test my setup in the most realistic way possible given my situation. I
have tried
forwarding spam I get on my regular windows machine to my lan mailserver (the
one on which
spamd is running) b
> Ok, you have SpamAssassin installed and you have spamd running. Where do
> you call spamc?
I am not using spamc directly. How is that done? Actually, my system does not
have a man page
on this program. Anyway, I am using a Sendmail milter called smtp-vilter and I
guess that it
internally c
How does one begin using the quarantine? I am using SA 3.01 with milter
smtp-vilter.
__
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
ks for all suggestions.
Peter
__
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
How can I verify whether my system is really using DNSBLs? From what I have
read all I need to
do is install Net::DNS. I have read as well that if the filtering gateway is
running a local
nameserver that it should not be pointing to itself otherwise the DNSBLs
mechanism will fail.
And is there
--- Michele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are you using DCC and Bayes?
I, for one, would like to use Bayes. The docs say it is enabled by default.
How does one
begin testing or using this?
__
Post your free ad now! http:/
Hi, I have heard that SPF is controversial among mail administrators. Why is
that? How many
people use it (on this mailing list)?
Peter
__
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
es it only
shift the score or bypass scanning?
Thanks for any help!
Regards
Peter
supposed to be while the first configuration just worked by
coincidence. Right?
Regards
Peter
working together ?
Thanks for the help
Peter
o have the spamassassin v3 tar.gz
(I am running fedora core 2 by the way). I am just wondering what I should
do next
Thanks for your help.
Peter
the question how to turn
forwarded spam (forwarding as attachment in GroupWise sends you the
headers too - so far so good...) into single mails resembling the
original as close as possible...
Regards
Peter
the question how to turn
forwarded spam (forwarding as attachment in GroupWise sends you the
headers too - so far so good...) into single mails resembling the
original as close as possible...
Regards
Peter
the question how to turn
forwarded spam (forwarding as attachment in GroupWise sends you the
headers too - so far so good...) into single mails resembling the
original as close as possible...
Regards
Peter
wise
>
> Cheers
> JG
Thanks! Thanks! Thanks! Thanks! ;-)
Sorry for sending the question several times... PEBKAC-Error in my
Mailsoftware ;-)
Regards
Peter
ow it.
Thanks for the info.
Peter
/ bayes ) ...
Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for the info,
Peter
I am not sure why it is doing this ... but everytime i get a spam, it looks
like it does the smap rateing twice. And it gives different scores each
time. Here is the new header from the last email I got. Notice how it
looks like spamassassin ran twice. Any Idea's ??? (yes, my threshhold is
low
# Stop daemons.
echo -n "Shutting down spamd: "
killproc spamd
RETVAL=$?
echo
[ $RETVAL = 0 ] && rm -f /var/lock/subsys/spamassassin
;;
-Original Message-
From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February
found it ... I had another procmailrc file in /etc ... I was trying
something else a little while ago and for got about it.
Thanks for the help.
I have another question, but I will make a new post.
Peter
-Original Message-
From: Peter Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday
ave been working on this for a
while now, and these are my points of confusion. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Peter
When I am trying to train bayes ... eveyrone says you have to remove the
message header first ??
I assume this means the spam tag that spam assassin adds ? If the spam
is in the mailbox on the server, how do you remove the tag ???
Thanks,
Peter
At 09:56 AM 2/3/2005, Peter Marshall wrote:
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