LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Hi score LIST_PARTIAL 2.000 1.999 2.000 1.999 that feels too high, as example we add "List-Unsubscribe" headers in case of ordiany newsletters to support MUA which read that header (for TB a extension exists) IMHO that penalty hits senders which try to be responsible http://blog.sendblaster.com

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread John Wilcock
Le 16/09/2014 12:24, Reindl Harald a écrit : score LIST_PARTIAL 2.000 1.999 2.000 1.999 that feels too high, as example we add "List-Unsubscribe" headers in case of ordiany newsletters to support MUA which read that header (for TB a extension exists) IMHO that penalty hits senders which try to

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2014 um 12:46 schrieb John Wilcock: > Le 16/09/2014 12:24, Reindl Harald a écrit : >> score LIST_PARTIAL 2.000 1.999 2.000 1.999 >> >> that feels too high, as example we add "List-Unsubscribe" >> headers in case of ordiany newsletters to support MUA >> which read that header (for TB a ext

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2014 um 12:51 schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 16.09.2014 um 12:46 schrieb John Wilcock: >> I have a low-scored local rule for List-Unsubscribe: without List-Id:, and >> it does indeed see hits on legit >> newsletters as well as plenty of not-so-legit ones. But not one of the legit >> newslet

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread John Wilcock
Le 16/09/2014 13:29, Reindl Harald a écrit : works, however, the penalty of 2 for 'List-Unsubscribe' without 'List-Id' feels a little bit unfair What's unfair about being penalised for not being standards-compliant? RFC2919 states that a mailing list SHOULD add a List-Id header, just as RFC23

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 16 September 2014 at 14:07:18 (EU time), John Wilcock wrote: > Le 16/09/2014 13:29, Reindl Harald a écrit : > > works, however, the penalty of 2 for 'List-Unsubscribe' without 'List-Id' > > feels a little bit unfair > > What's unfair about being penalised for not being standards-compli

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2014 um 14:07 schrieb John Wilcock: > Le 16/09/2014 13:29, Reindl Harald a écrit : >> works, however, the penalty of 2 for 'List-Unsubscribe' without 'List-Id' >> feels a little bit unfair > > What's unfair about being penalised for not being standards-compliant? > > RFC2919 states that

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 9/16/2014 8:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.09.2014 um 14:07 schrieb John Wilcock: Le 16/09/2014 13:29, Reindl Harald a écrit : works, however, the penalty of 2 for 'List-Unsubscribe' without 'List-Id' feels a little bit unfair What's unfair about being penalised for not being standards-c

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Le 16/09/2014 12:24, Reindl Harald a écrit : score LIST_PARTIAL 2.000 1.999 2.000 1.999 that feels too high, as example we add "List-Unsubscribe" headers in case of ordiany newsletters to support MUA which read that header (for TB a extension exists)

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2014 um 16:01 schrieb John Hardin: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Le 16/09/2014 12:24, Reindl Harald a écrit : score LIST_PARTIAL 2.000 1.999 2.000 1.999 that feels too high, as example we add "List-Unsubscribe" headers in case of ordiany newsletters

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.09.2014 um 16:01 schrieb John Hardin: On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Le 16/09/2014 12:24, Reindl Harald a écrit : score LIST_PARTIAL 2.000 1.999 2.000 1.999 that feels too high, as example we add "List-Unsubscribe" headers in case of

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2014 um 16:20 schrieb John Hardin: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 16.09.2014 um 16:01 schrieb John Hardin: >>> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: > Le 16/09/2014 12:24, Reindl Harald a écrit : >> score LIST_PARTIAL 2.000 1.999 2.000 1.999 >> >> th

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread RW
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:07:47 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > in that case not, but depends on some wired HTML, bad chosen > subject or so hit another rule where 2 points penalty may > come closer to spam, keep in mind nobody knows how good or > bad a bayes on the RCPT side maybe trained > > what al

Re: LIST_PARTIAL

2014-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2014 um 17:11 schrieb RW: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:07:47 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> in that case not, but depends on some wired HTML, bad chosen >> subject or so hit another rule where 2 points penalty may >> come closer to spam, keep in mind nobody knows how good or >> bad a baye

10_MBL.cf

2014-09-16 Thread jcb
For the last few days, I have noticed that I have been getting this update, and it is about 12mb long. When it automatically updates, it manages to hang spamassassin, thereby stopping amavisd from processing. Any Ideas? I am temporarily deleting this, till something is found.

Re: 10_MBL.cf

2014-09-16 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 9/16/2014 12:57 PM, jcb wrote: For the last few days, I have noticed that I have been getting this update, and it is about 12mb long. When it automatically updates, it manages to hang spamassassin, thereby stopping amavisd from processing. Any Ideas? I am temporarily deleting this, till some

Re: 10_MBL.cf

2014-09-16 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 9/16/2014 12:57 PM, jcb wrote: For the last few days, I have noticed that I have been getting this update, and it is about 12mb long. When it automatically updates, it manages to hang spamassassin, thereby stopping amavisd from processing. Any

Re: 10_MBL.cf

2014-09-16 Thread jcb
On 9/16/2014 1:19 PM, jcb wrote: On 9/16/2014 1:08 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 9/16/2014 12:57 PM, jcb wrote: For the last few days, I have noticed that I have been getting this update, and it is about 12mb long. When it automatically updates, it

Re: 10_MBL.cf

2014-09-16 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, jcb wrote: On 9/16/2014 1:08 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 9/16/2014 12:57 PM, jcb wrote: > > For the last few days, I have noticed that I have been getting > > this update, and it is about 12mb long. When it automatically > >

Re: 10_MBL.cf

2014-09-16 Thread Axb
On 09/16/2014 06:57 PM, jcb wrote: For the last few days, I have noticed that I have been getting this update, and it is about 12mb long. When it automatically updates, it manages to hang spamassassin, thereby stopping amavisd from processing. Any Ideas? I am temporarily deleting this, till somet

spamassassin rule to combat phishing

2014-09-16 Thread francis picabia
Hello, We just received the most authentic looking phishing I've seen. It was professionally written, included a nice signature in the style used by people at my workplace, and the target link was an exact replica of an ezproxy website we run. The URL domain was only different by a few letters.

Re: 10_MBL.cf

2014-09-16 Thread Jason Haar
On 17/09/14 06:13, Axb wrote: > MBL has a history of borked ClamAV signatures exploding .cf files > > The idea of creating HUGE static files for URIs is reminds be of the > times when Bill Stearns and Chris Santerre did something like it named > BigEvil.cf , before the SpamcopURI plugin and SURBL s

Re: spamassassin rule to combat phishing

2014-09-16 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, francis picabia wrote: Hello, We just received the most authentic looking phishing I've seen. It was professionally written, included a nice signature in the style used by people at my workplace, and the target link was an exact replica of an ezproxy website we run. Th

Re: 10_MBL.cf

2014-09-16 Thread Axb
On 09/16/2014 10:17 PM, Jason Haar wrote: On 17/09/14 06:13, Axb wrote: MBL has a history of borked ClamAV signatures exploding .cf files The idea of creating HUGE static files for URIs is reminds be of the times when Bill Stearns and Chris Santerre did something like it named BigEvil.cf , befo

Re: 10_MBL.cf

2014-09-16 Thread LuKreme
> On 16 Sep 2014, at 12:13 , Axb wrote: > > On 09/16/2014 06:57 PM, jcb wrote: >> For the last few days, I have noticed that I have been getting this >> update, and it is about 12mb long. When it automatically updates, it >> manages to hang spamassassin, thereby stopping amavisd from processing.