Am 16.09.2014 um 12:46 schrieb John Wilcock:
> Le 16/09/2014 12:24, Reindl Harald a écrit :
>> score LIST_PARTIAL 2.000 1.999 2.000 1.999
>>
>> that feels too high, as example we add "List-Unsubscribe"
>> headers in case of ordiany newsletters to support MUA
>> which read that header (for TB a extension exists)
>>
>> IMHO that penalty hits senders which try to be responsible
> 
> If the rule were to hit only messages that have List-Unsubscribe: but not 
> List-Id: it would indeed be too high, but
> you'll see that there are various other components to exclude legitimate 
> messages from the the META rule.
> 
> I have a low-scored local rule for List-Unsubscribe: without List-Id:, and it 
> does indeed see hits on legit
> newsletters as well as plenty of not-so-legit ones. But not one of the legit 
> newsletters also hits LIST_PARTIAL.

i have seen that rule hit one customers newsletter generated here, going through
a relay responsible for the sender domain and coming back to the customer itself
why it makes it through SA

the header is generated like below by giving the function the unsbcribe URL
which is anyways in the newsletter itself to support MUA's display it in a
standard way without seek in the message and so with real good intention

if(!empty($unsubscribe_url))
{
 $phpmailer->AddCustomHeader('List-Unsubscribe: <' . $unsubscribe_url . '>');
}

well, i will extend that with
$phpmailer->AddCustomHeader('List-Id: <' . $customer_domain . '>');


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