Am 16.09.2014 um 14:07 schrieb John Wilcock:
> Le 16/09/2014 13:29, Reindl Harald a écrit :
>> works, however, the penalty of 2 for 'List-Unsubscribe' without 'List-Id'
>> feels a little bit unfair
> 
> What's unfair about being penalised for not being standards-compliant?
> 
> RFC2919 states that a mailing list SHOULD add a List-Id header, 
> just as RFC2369 states that it SHOULD add a List-Unsubscribe header

i am talking about a *newsletter* not a classical mailing-list
and the word SHOULD in a RFC has a different meaning than MUST
hence a prenalty of 2 is large

the point is that 'List-Unsubscribe' in context of a newsletter
with modern MUA's is helpful even if it is not a mailing-list
because it can be displayed in a standard way *additional* to
the mandatory unscubscribe-link you need to seek in the message

so somebody try to do the enduser something good (as i did) and
add this header without invent a "list-id" get a *high* penalty

that's how things are if you have both jobs - mailadmin and
developer of CMS systems with newsletters and try to make both
jobs as good as possible - you see both sides

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