Re: Different score again

2008-04-10 Thread age85
Thanks for your answer the spamd -L was bad, without everything works fine, especially the NixSpam plugin! After your and Anthonys last mail I understand the reason for the different scores in the output. Of course the lower score was already in the mail, don't forget I took a scanned mail fro

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Bob Proulx wrote: decoder wrote: We recently discovered that even our own mailserver (Postfix) was a backscatter source (and 1-2 weeks ago spammers started to actively use it), there were several reasons and I'd like to share these points with the list so nobody does the same mistakes.

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Steve Prior wrote: mouss wrote: But back on topic... the OP has been joe-jobbed. he's not the only one... seems there's a lot of backscatter coming in these days. Thanks for confirming that spf doesn't fix the problem. The main problem with SPF is that most other servers out there don't

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> >>>But back on topic... the OP has been joe-jobbed. > >mouss wrote: > >>he's not the only one... seems there's a lot of backscatter coming in > >>these days. > >> > >>Thanks for confirming that spf doesn't fix the problem. SPF is designed to fix the problem, however as many other standards it

foreign languages

2008-04-10 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
greetings. any ideas for spam in russian and chineese? (some even with broken charset) XBL and bayes are very effective but not enough :/ I'd like to have some kind of language matcher. We don't have people speaking russian in the company so it would be nice to give 1 or 2 points on just the lang

Re: foreign languages

2008-04-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.04.08 12:38, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: > any ideas for spam in russian and chineese? (some even with broken charset) > XBL and bayes are very effective but not enough :/ > I'd like to have some kind of language matcher. We don't have people speaking > russian in the company so it would b

Re: foreign languages

2008-04-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: greetings. any ideas for spam in russian and chineese? (some even with broken charset) XBL and bayes are very effective but not enough :/ I'd like to have some kind of language matcher. We don't have people speaking russian in the company so it would be nice to give

SpamD and SpamC

2008-04-10 Thread dougp23
I run SA on a host-wide basis, so no per user configuration files. I fire off SA as non-root, yet my maillog keeps filling up with those messages about root problems, like these: config: cannot write to /root/.spamassassin/user_prefs: Permission denied So, I find that if I fire off spamass-mi

RE: Configuring SA as frontend to Exchange

2008-04-10 Thread Jeff Moss
I've done this a few times and it works really well. I use Linux, Postfix, SpamAssassin, ClamAV, and a super lightweight cut down version of the now-dead Amavisd-lite. I use this system as an inbound email relay on, or outside, the corporate firewall boundary and put Exchange inside. That way if

need sa-compile if whitelist relays changed?

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Scheidell
If I add a file /etc/spamassassin/20a_vbounce.cf and add these entries, do I need to run sa-compile or not? Second issue, if I change scores (in local.cf for example), do I need to recompile? whitelist_bounce_relays mail.domain2.com whitelist_bounce_relays mail.domain3.com can I ad

Botnet.pm causing SA timeouts

2008-04-10 Thread Koopmann, Jan-Peter
Hi, I just noticed BotNet (0.8) causing SA timeouts when used with MailScanner. This is what the log gives me: [21308] dbg: spf: query for [EMAIL PROTECTED]/75.117.130.5/unknown: result: fail, comment: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?id=esuapmet_1966%40mater.ustb.edu.cn&ip=75.11 7.13

Re: Botnet.pm causing SA timeouts

2008-04-10 Thread Mark Martinec
Jan-Peter, > I just noticed BotNet (0.8) causing SA timeouts > Then it just hangs for quite some time and finally runs into the > timeout. Any idea? A known problem, it uses a default timeout of Net::DNS, which is very long for certain unresolvable DNS queries. Try the following patch: --- Bot

RE: Botnet.pm causing SA timeouts

2008-04-10 Thread Koopmann, Jan-Peter
> > Then it just hangs for quite some time and finally runs into the > > timeout. Any idea? > > A known problem, it uses a default timeout of Net::DNS, > which is very long for certain unresolvable DNS queries. > Try the following patch: Looks like this did the trick! Great. Thanks!

Re: Botnet.pm causing SA timeouts

2008-04-10 Thread John Rudd
Mark, Thanks, I'll try to work that into 0.9. John Mark Martinec wrote: Jan-Peter, I just noticed BotNet (0.8) causing SA timeouts Then it just hangs for quite some time and finally runs into the timeout. Any idea? A known problem, it uses a default timeout of Net::DNS, which is ver

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: But back on topic... the OP has been joe-jobbed. mouss wrote: he's not the only one... seems there's a lot of backscatter coming in these days. Thanks for confirming that spf doesn't fix the problem. SPF is designed to fix the pr

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Thursday 10 April 2008 17:16:40 mouss wrote: > I personally have found that SPF causes more problems than it helps, and > for that I do not recommend setting SPF record for "general use" domains. mind explaining more detailed? I use SPF on all 300 domains. I don't think anyone actually checks

Re: Configuring SA as frontend to Exchange

2008-04-10 Thread Vidar Tyldum Hansen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henry Kwan: > Hi, > > Have been running SA on CentOS for a few years now and everything has been > working great. But the powers that be want to move to Exchange so I am trying > to plan a SA frontend that feeds the Exchange server. Been there! > A

Re: foreign languages

2008-04-10 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
thanks Matt and Mathus. That helps. -- best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen Arvid Ephraim Picciani

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 17:16:40 mouss wrote: I personally have found that SPF causes more problems than it helps, and for that I do not recommend setting SPF record for "general use" domains. mind explaining more detailed? I use SPF on all 300 domains.

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread Kelson
mouss wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: But back on topic... the OP has been joe-jobbed. mouss wrote: he's not the only one... seems there's a lot of backscatter coming in these days. Thanks for confirming that spf doesn't fix the problem. SPF is designed to fix the pro

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Kelson wrote: Who said anything about spam from an authorized source? I was misled by SPF... sorry. The problem *being discussed* is spam with a forged sender address, causing bounce notices to go to an innocent third party. which is caused by "accept then bounce" implementations, someth

Re: Configuring SA as frontend to Exchange

2008-04-10 Thread Henry Kwan
Vidar Tyldum Hansen tyldum.com> writes: > I'm just doing a rough summary of my process on 2007: > - Use LDAP to check the recipients against Exchange/AD > (remember the proxyAddress attribute) > - On the SA-machine I use Postfix and header_checks after the message > is scanned by amavi

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread Bob Proulx
mouss wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >I don't think that any of those should match and therefore is safe by > >default. > > the trouble comes from the default (compatibility) value of > relay_domains and relay_recipient_maps. For this reason, it is > recommended to set > parent_domain_matches_subd

DNS Blocklists with Spamassassin (scoring only)

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Hutchinson
Hi Everyone, I've been floating around on the web, looking for some specifics to do with setting up a DNS Block List for scoring in Spamassassin. I found the setup for the CBL, and copied that for use with the DSBL, which is what I want to setup for scoring Spam. Strangely enough, a lot of

Re: Returned mail spam

2008-04-10 Thread mouss
Bob Proulx wrote: mouss wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I don't think that any of those should match and therefore is safe by default. the trouble comes from the default (compatibility) value of relay_domains and relay_recipient_maps. For this reason, it is recommended to set parent_

Re: DNS Blocklists with Spamassassin (scoring only)

2008-04-10 Thread Kelson
Michael Hutchinson wrote: uridnsbl URIBL_DSBL list.dsbl.org. TXT body URIBL_DSBL eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_DSBL') describe URIBL_DSBL Contains a URL listed in the DSBL blocklist (http://dsbl.org) scoreURIBL_DSBL 0.004 Wait... does the DSBL even list URIs? I thought it only lis

Re: Low Scores on Bounce Backs

2008-04-10 Thread Jason Haar
I think we've detoured from the actual problem? The fact is that lots of spam is now being sent to other sites, pretending to be from (collectively) our email addresses, so that we get the bounces containing the spam. And SA isn't marking these messages as spam, whereas if it was directly sent

RE: DNS Blocklists with Spamassassin (scoring only)

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Hutchinson
> -Original Message- > From: Kelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 April 2008 11:20 a.m. > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: DNS Blocklists with Spamassassin (scoring only) > > Michael Hutchinson wrote: > > uridnsbl URIBL_DSBL list.dsbl.org. TXT > > body URIBL_D

Re: Low Scores on Bounce Backs

2008-04-10 Thread Jeff Koch
Our users are getting hundreds of these! One of the problems is that the actual spam email is sometimes not attached. But interestly enough we are usually sent the email header of the original email. From that we (the humans) can easily spot that the IP address of the mailserver claiming to

Paging [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-04-10 Thread SM
Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is bouncing messages back to this mailing list using the email address in the From: header as the Return-Path. The mailing list software sees it as a loop and bounces the message back to message poster. Regards, -sm

Re: CommuniGate Pro Received header (was: whitelist_from_rcvd not working)

2008-04-10 Thread SM
At 23:03 09-04-2008, Victor Sudakov wrote: whitelist_from_rcvd now works, but not quite in the manner I have expected. In fact, it works only if the relay is NOT in the trusted_networks list. Can you post the debug output? I wonder if this is by design. In my opinion, whitelisting should alwa

Re: Low Scores on Bounce Backs

2008-04-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, April 11, 2008 01:28, Jason Haar wrote: > How are others (successfully) handling backscatter? Moving bounces into > yet another separate folder isn't a solution for our users - and I'm > sure the same applies elsewhere. Spam is spam... backscatter have more signs of why you get them, ma

Re: CommuniGate Pro Received header (was: whitelist_from_rcvd not working)

2008-04-10 Thread Victor Sudakov
SM wrote: > >whitelist_from_rcvd now works, but not quite in the manner I have > >expected. In fact, it works only if the relay is NOT in the > >trusted_networks list. > > Can you post the debug output? In this case 212.73.124.135 is trusted so the sender was not whitelisted!!! http://vas.tomsk.

Re: CommuniGate Pro Received header (was: whitelist_from_rcvd not working)

2008-04-10 Thread Victor Sudakov
SM wrote: > >This is the standard CommuniGate Pro "Received:" header. > >When HELO matches the hostname, this header always looks this way, > >with the word "verified" added to it. > > SpamAssassin is not parsing that "Received:" header as one with a > hostname which has been "verified". [dd] >

ccache and sought.cf SA rules compilation

2008-04-10 Thread Robert - elists
I am not a ccache expert... I came across it in the last few months and just today had some time to install it on a centos 4.6 box and play for a second or two. If anyone on the list is familiar with using it? If so, then the questions would be, is it appropriate to use it, or something similar,