Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-10-01 Thread Marc Perkel
Updated that as well. R-Elists wrote: marc   dont forget this one   http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MarcPerkelsExperiments    - rh From: Marc Perkel [mailto:m...@perkel.com]   snip  Yes - the wiki is updated.

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-10-01 Thread Warren Togami
On 10/01/2009 12:42 PM, jdow wrote: From: "Marc Perkel" Sent: Wednesday, 2009/September/30 16:41 Blaine Fleming wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I like it. RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BR Let's go with it. Marc, have you updated your wiki to re

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-10-01 Thread jdow
From: "Marc Perkel" Sent: Wednesday, 2009/September/30 16:41 Blaine Fleming wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I like it. RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BR Let's go with it. Marc, have you updated your wiki to reflect the new rules? I think

RE: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread R-Elists
marc dont forget this one http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MarcPerkelsExperiments - rh _ From: Marc Perkel [mailto:m...@perkel.com] snip Yes - the wiki is updated.

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread Marc Perkel
Blaine Fleming wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I like it. RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BR Let's go with it. Marc, have you updated your wiki to reflect the new rules? I think that will pretty well settle any debate or qu

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On ons 30 sep 2009 19:17:46 CEST, John Hardin wrote RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BR +1 -2 the rule name is now longer then it was :/ -- xpoint

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BR +1 -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread Blaine Fleming
Marc Perkel wrote: > I like it. > > RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL > RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL > RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YL > RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BR > > Let's go with it. Marc, have you updated your wiki to reflect the new rules? I think that will pretty well settle any debate or question people have. --Blaine

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread Marc Perkel
I like it. RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YL RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BR Let's go with it. Warren Togami wrote: On 09/29/2009 08:56 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: Could you please decide between the existing JMF rule names or the above proposed HOSTKARMA names? It seems opinion

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread Marc Perkel
R-Elists wrote: RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black RCVD_HOSTKARMA_WL White RCVD_HOSTKARMA_YL Yellow RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BR Brown OTOH, I really like these new names. My brain thinks less hard to recognize them. How do other people feel. Should we stick to his old names with JMF in the W

RE: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread R-Elists
> > I'll note that he's the one that said he prefers HOSTKARMA > names, despite his own Wiki saying JMF. > > Warren > > Warren, so noted... :-) his wiki and his entries in the SA wiki too... and this isnt a witch hunt by any means... you desiring to set it up and run it through the SA

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread Bowie Bailey
Warren Togami wrote: > On 09/30/2009 12:18 AM, R-Elists wrote: >> >> warren, >> >> marc already decided once, please dont give more choices... >> >> you should have thought that out before putting the list in a minor >> tiz on >> it. >> >> - rh >> > > I'll note that he's the one that said he pref

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-30 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/30/2009 12:18 AM, R-Elists wrote: Marc, Could you please decide between the existing JMF rule names or the above proposed HOSTKARMA names? It seems opinions are split here. Warren warren, marc already decided once, please dont give more choices... you should have thought that ou

RE: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread R-Elists
> > Marc, > > Could you please decide between the existing JMF rule names > or the above proposed HOSTKARMA names? It seems opinions are > split here. > > Warren > > warren, marc already decided once, please dont give more choices... you should have thought that out before putting the l

RE: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread R-Elists
> > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_WL White > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_YL Yellow > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BR Brown > > OTOH, I really like these new names. My brain thinks less > hard to recognize them. > > How do other people feel. Should we stick to his old names > with JMF in the Wiki or these

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/29/2009 08:56 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: Could you please decide between the existing JMF rule names or the above proposed HOSTKARMA names? It seems opinions are split here. Warren If there is a lack of consensus then I appoint you Warren to make the final call. I personally have no strong

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Marc Perkel
Warren Togami wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:50 PM, Warren Togami wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:45 PM, Henrik K wrote: It seems that people have already been using the rules copied from your site. It will be confusing to them if we change the official name. Some will accidentally have your lists twice.

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> On tir 29 sep 2009 23:30:15 CEST, Warren Togami wrote >> Could you please decide between the existing JMF rule >> names or the above proposed HOSTKARMA names? It seems >> opinions are split here. > > let it be the long names that loose ? > > ironical you wanted to be shurt names but created a

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tir 29 sep 2009 23:30:15 CEST, Warren Togami wrote Could you please decide between the existing JMF rule names or the above proposed HOSTKARMA names? It seems opinions are split here. let it be the long names that loose ? ironical you wanted to be shurt names but created a longer one ? -

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! We're bikeshedding here, but I believe these names are better because it is absolutely clear what it means without _IN. Shorter name is better and easier to read I think. Could you please decide between the existing JMF rule names or the above proposed HOSTKARMA names? It seems opinions

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/29/2009 12:50 PM, Warren Togami wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:45 PM, Henrik K wrote: It seems that people have already been using the rules copied from your site. It will be confusing to them if we change the official name. Some will accidentally have your lists twice. RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black R

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> > It seems that people have already been using the rules > copied from your site. It will be confusing to them if > we change the official name. Some will accidentally have > your lists twice. > > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_WL White > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_YL Yellow > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BR

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Ned Slider
Warren Togami wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:45 PM, Henrik K wrote: It seems that people have already been using the rules copied from your site. It will be confusing to them if we change the official name. Some will accidentally have your lists twice. RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black RCVD_HOSTKARMA_WL White

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:50:13PM -0400, Warren Togami wrote: > On 09/29/2009 12:45 PM, Henrik K wrote: >>> It seems that people have already been using the rules copied from your >>> site. It will be confusing to them if we change the official name. Some >>> will accidentally have your lists twi

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/29/2009 12:45 PM, Henrik K wrote: It seems that people have already been using the rules copied from your site. It will be confusing to them if we change the official name. Some will accidentally have your lists twice. RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black RCVD_HOSTKARMA_WL White RCVD_HOSTKARMA_YL Yell

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:06:13PM -0400, Warren Togami wrote: > On 09/29/2009 10:23 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_WL White > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_YL Yellow > RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BR Brown >>> >> I'm willing go go with whatever name works better for the commu

Re: Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Warren Togami
On 09/29/2009 10:23 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BL Black RCVD_HOSTKARMA_WL White RCVD_HOSTKARMA_YL Yellow RCVD_HOSTKARMA_BR Brown I'm willing go go with whatever name works better for the community. I will change my wiki to be consistent. Hi Marc, I appreciate your desire for ever

Understanding the hostKarma Lists

2009-09-29 Thread Marc Perkel
Responding to a lot of questions here. The lists contain both host names and IP addresses. IP addresses everyone understands. So I'll talk about host names. Wells Fargo Bank - for example - (wellsfargo.com - is in the white list as is all of Wells Fargo's hosts. This bank sends nothing but 100%