Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-24 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Samstag, 22. Oktober 2005 18:01 Andy Smith wrote: > Masses of legitimate email comes from hosts with no reverse DNS, > incorrect HELO and other borderline or actual RFC violations. It pretty much depends on the mail server and it's users. Our server used to receive most e-mail from Austria, so

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-22 Thread JamesDR
Chris L. Franklin wrote: Andy Smith wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 11:05:07AM -0400, Chris L. Franklin wrote: For starters AWL, white lists and black lists in my option ar ethe worst things ever. I disable them from the start. If your going to whitelist some one, why would you want them to

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-22 Thread Jay Lee
Chris L. Franklin said: > Thanks but we do run my servers as I posted above (minus the Non DNS > compliant part). Blacked listed user and Domains my server to not accept > messages from. Whitelisted users and domain DO NOT get passed though SA > WE DO NOT use negitive scoring. > We Stop 99.2% of al

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-22 Thread Chris L. Franklin
Andy Smith wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 11:05:07AM -0400, Chris L. Franklin wrote: For starters AWL, white lists and black lists in my option ar ethe worst things ever. I disable them from the start. If your going to whitelist some one, why would you want them to even go though SA. (I don

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-22 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 11:05:07AM -0400, Chris L. Franklin wrote: > For starters AWL, white lists and black lists in my option ar ethe worst > things ever. I disable them from the start. If your going to whitelist > some one, why would you want them to even go though SA. (I don't) Because a sou

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-22 Thread Chris L. Franklin
Loren Wilton wrote: Ps, The system only would need to "process all the rules regardless" during the loading of the child. Well, yes and no. This subject comes up a lot. For the record, I favor an early exit, as you do. But also for the record, it really is more complex than you make it

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-22 Thread Loren Wilton
> Ps, The system only would need to "process all the rules regardless" > during the loading of the child. Well, yes and no. This subject comes up a lot. For the record, I favor an early exit, as you do. But also for the record, it really is more complex than you make it out to be, and there are

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Chris L. Franklin wrote: > Back in 2.64 There was the option to have SA stop going though rules > then it hit a max score. > Is there any option for this in 3.X.X ? No there wasn't such an option in 2.64, that option existed back in SA 2.31, and was removed from SA 2.40 and higer because it caused

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread Todd Merritt
Evan Platt wrote: At 11:45 AM 10/21/2005, you wrote: If you grouped the rulesets into +/- sets and processed all the - rules first it wouldn't create false ly scored messages. Or would it ? No, but you still would have to process all the rules regardless - I mean a incorrectly whitelisted

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread Chris L. Franklin
Evan Platt wrote: At 11:45 AM 10/21/2005, you wrote: If you grouped the rulesets into +/- sets and processed all the - rules first it wouldn't create false ly scored messages. Or would it ? No, but you still would have to process all the rules regardless - I mean a incorrectly whitelisted

RE: Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Todd Merritt wrote: > jdow wrote: > >> From: "Chris L. Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> Back in 2.64 There was the option to have SA stop going though >>> rules then it hit a max score. Is there any option for this in >>> 3.X.X ? >> >> >> No. Such a rule actually costs processing time AND

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread Chris L. Franklin
jdow wrote: From: "Chris L. Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Back in 2.64 There was the option to have SA stop going though rules then it hit a max score. Is there any option for this in 3.X.X ? No. Such a rule actually costs processing time AND would create false positives or false negatives

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread Evan Platt
At 11:45 AM 10/21/2005, you wrote: If you grouped the rulesets into +/- sets and processed all the - rules first it wouldn't create false ly scored messages. Or would it ? No, but you still would have to process all the rules regardless - I mean a incorrectly whitelisted message could have en

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread Todd Merritt
jdow wrote: From: "Chris L. Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Back in 2.64 There was the option to have SA stop going though rules then it hit a max score. Is there any option for this in 3.X.X ? No. Such a rule actually costs processing time AND would create false positives or false negatives

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread jdow
From: "Chris L. Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Back in 2.64 There was the option to have SA stop going though rules then it hit a max score. Is there any option for this in 3.X.X ? No. Such a rule actually costs processing time AND would create false positives or false negatives entirely too e

Re: Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread Evan Platt
At 09:03 AM 10/21/2005, you wrote: Back in 2.64 There was the option to have SA stop going though rules then it hit a max score. Is there any option for this in 3.X.X ? Nope. All depends on the order of the rules. What if it had yet to come across a whitelist rule?

Stopping Rules

2005-10-21 Thread Chris L. Franklin
Back in 2.64 There was the option to have SA stop going though rules then it hit a max score. Is there any option for this in 3.X.X ? -- -- Chris L. Franklin --