Andy Smith wrote:

On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 11:05:07AM -0400, Chris L. Franklin wrote:
For starters AWL, white lists and black lists in my option ar ethe worst things ever. I disable them from the start. If your going to whitelist some one, why would you want them to even go though SA. (I don't)

Because a source that regularly sends you legit email, e.g. a
mailing list, might send email that is borderline spammy and the
only thing that tips it back into legitimate territory is the
autowhitelist and bayes based on what YOUR users consider ham.

if there blaklisted I don't want them even want the server
accepting a email for me / the user if they are black listed.

There are lots of blacklists and DNSBLs that work best as
contributors, not as absolute yes/no arbiters of what should be
accepted.

And again negative-scoring is useless if u need to write a negative score you problitly should rethink your positive scoring rules.

I don't understand why you are using SpamAssassin if you really
believe the above.

All this taking into a account Removing AWL, and negative-scoring. There are no real problems.

And as a side note about net rules, if your really into using these then you'll probabliy just want to tune the server not to accept email from non-RDNS or invaild dns lookups.

Masses of legitimate email comes from hosts with no reverse DNS,
incorrect HELO and other borderline or actual RFC violations.

I don't think you have thought this through and I believe that you
would do well to accept some of the wisdom of those that have.  If
not, well, try it, and report back as to how well that works out for
you, so that everyone else can see how wrong they are.

Thanks but we do run my servers as I posted above (minus the Non DNS compliant part).
Blacked listed user and Domains my server to not accept messages from.
Whitelisted users and domain DO NOT get passed though SA
WE DO NOT use negitive scoring.
We Stop 99.2% of all spam and get less the %0.82 miss marked emails.
We Subject mark at 5 points, and We report a "550" error" on all emails with a score of 8 or more during the smtp transaction. (Yes we Do SA scanning during the smtp transaction. Aka we stop spam at the door.)

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