Re: French spam passed all SA tests with flying colors

2025-03-08 Thread Vincent Lefevre
.0 The second one has BAYES_50 instead of BAYES_00 probably because I had already sent the one to "sa-learn --spam --no-sync". -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Re: French spam passed all SA tests with flying colors

2025-03-06 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, Michel Arboi wrote: I guess I'll have to blacklist some URI domains, but if anybody finds a btter idea, I'll take it. Bayes should handle that - especially if you don't actually speak French... Note the GDPR pseudo legal text. This is utter BS of course, as this was not

French spam passed all SA tests with flying colors

2025-03-06 Thread Michel Arboi
I guess I'll have to blacklist some URI domains, but if anybody finds a btter idea, I'll take it. Note the GDPR pseudo legal text. This is utter BS of course, as this was not sent to a professional address. Ce message vous a été envoyé par DATAVENTURE GROUP dans le cadre de nos activités de prosp

Re: [External] SA 4.0.1 - util_rb_3tld

2025-01-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 09.01.25 16:06, Max Erenburg via users wrote: Yeah not trying to welcome them entirely, more so like other well-known domains that are commonly seen and will not be blacklisted (e.g. docs.google.com ). I will try out: uridnsbl_skip_domain ct.sendgrid.net On Fri, 10 Jan 2025, Matus UHLAR

Re: [External] SA 4.0.1 - util_rb_3tld

2025-01-11 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 09.01.25 16:06, Max Erenburg via users wrote: Yeah not trying to welcome them entirely, more so like other well-known domains that are commonly seen and will not be blacklisted (e.g. docs.google.com ). I will try out: uridnsbl_skip_domain

Re: SA 4.0.1 Bayes in SQL: MYSQL_OPT_RECONNECT is deprecated

2025-01-10 Thread John Wilcock
Le 10/01/2025 à 15:35, Bill Cole a écrit : On 2025-01-10 at 08:49:04 UTC-0500 (Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:49:04 +0100) John Wilcock is rumored to have said: Hi all, I'm using Spamassassin 4.0.1 on Gentoo and I've recently switched to using MySQL (actually Mariadb 10.6) for Bayes storage. I'm seei

Re: [External] SA 4.0.1 - util_rb_3tld

2025-01-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
_query_restriction deny ct.sendgrid.net.multi.uribl.com ct.sendgrid.net.multi.surbl.org ct.sendgrid.net.spamhaus.org ct.sendgrid.net.lookup.dkimwl.org From: Kevin A. McGrail Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:10 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: [External] SA 4.0.1 - util_rb_3t

Re: SA 4.0.1 Bayes in SQL: MYSQL_OPT_RECONNECT is deprecated

2025-01-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 2025-01-10 at 08:49:04 UTC-0500 (Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:49:04 +0100) John Wilcock is rumored to have said: Hi all, I'm using Spamassassin 4.0.1 on Gentoo and I've recently switched to using MySQL (actually Mariadb 10.6) for Bayes storage. I'm seeing "WARNING: MYSQL_OPT_RECONNECT is deprecat

SA 4.0.1 Bayes in SQL: MYSQL_OPT_RECONNECT is deprecated

2025-01-10 Thread John Wilcock
Hi all, I'm using Spamassassin 4.0.1 on Gentoo and I've recently switched to using MySQL (actually Mariadb 10.6) for Bayes storage. I'm seeing "WARNING: MYSQL_OPT_RECONNECT is deprecated and will be removed in a future version" warnings. $ spamassassin --lint --debug=bayes Jan 10 14:45:02.8

RE: [External] SA 4.0.1 - util_rb_3tld

2025-01-09 Thread Max Erenburg via users
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: [External] SA 4.0.1 - util_rb_3tld Looking to check if my understanding is correct or there is some sort of bug. I have the following entry in my local.cf file: util_rb_3tldct.sendgrid.net I would expect that ‘ *.ct.sendgrid.net ‘ would be

Re: [External] SA 4.0.1 - util_rb_3tld

2025-01-09 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Looking to check if my understanding is correct or there is some sort of bug. I have the following entry in my local.cf file: util_rb_3tld    ct.sendgrid.net I would expect that ‘ *.ct.sendgrid.net ‘ would be excluded from any URI BL lookups? Hi Max, sorry, no.  That command makes it so tha

SA 4.0.1 - util_rb_3tld

2025-01-08 Thread Max Erenburg via users
Hello, Looking to check if my understanding is correct or there is some sort of bug. I have the following entry in my local.cf file: util_rb_3tldct.sendgrid.net I would expect that ' *.ct.sendgrid.net ' would be excluded from any URI BL lookups? However I see in my spamd log the following

Re: Where to report bugs about sa-learn ?

2024-12-28 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-12-28 at 02:21:28 UTC-0500 (Sat, 28 Dec 2024 08:21:28 +0100) Pierluigi Frullani is rumored to have said: > Hello all, > it seems that bugzilla is not very active, at least for sa-learm stuffs. Indeed, there are not a lot of fresh bugs in a project as old as SpamAssassin. We do

Where to report bugs about sa-learn ?

2024-12-27 Thread Pierluigi Frullani
Hello all, it seems that bugzilla is not very active, at least for sa-learm stuffs. I have just upgraded to 4.0.1 anf found that sa-learn has a problem ( and a workaround ) when dealing with (imap) compressed files for which I've found a workaround, and would like to report both. Should I

Re: moderately personalized spam sneaking past my SA. general approaches to fix it?

2024-11-21 Thread John Hardin
already be helping. :) You might want to run it through SA with the rule hits flags on so that you can tell if a new meta with some existing unscored rules might help. What caught my eye was the unusual TLD in the HELO. That would be trivial for a spammer to bypass, but it might help to look for un

Re: moderately personalized spam sneaking past my SA. general approaches to fix it?

2024-11-21 Thread Matija Nalis
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 12:42:58PM -0500, pgnd wrote: > , sneaking past my SA protections. Whether to call it snowshoe, I dunno :-/ > But my usually well fed Bayes isn't getting noticeably better with 'em. > https://gist.github.com/pgnd/5ab934d921939f4c62a4c978a30

Re: moderately personalized spam sneaking past my SA. general approaches to fix it?

2024-11-21 Thread Axb
On 11/21/24 18:42, pgnd wrote: Starting about 2 weeks ago, I've been playing whack-a-mole with waves of 'your mail box is full' phish, e.g. "Subject: The storage on your Webmail account is about full. You've used up all of the storage." , sneaking past

Re: Requesting help, sa-update, cron, gpg, unsafe ownership on homedir

2024-07-12 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-07-12 at 10:51:08 UTC-0400 (Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:51:08 -0400) Steve Charmer is rumored to have said: I have a cron job running as root, which calls sa-update it warns about unsafe ownership gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on homedir

Requesting help, sa-update, cron, gpg, unsafe ownership on homedir

2024-07-12 Thread Steve Charmer
I have a cron job running as root, which calls sa-update it warns about unsafe ownership gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on homedir `/var/lib/spamassassin/sa-update-keys' this is my cu

Re: Question about sa-updates

2024-06-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
Paul Schmehl skrev den 2024-06-22 07:44: It’s not clear to me from your answer. Does SA read rules in both places? it eveal first sa-update rules, then later host rules Or only in /etc/mail/spamassassin/? this is host rules, you define all global configs here, and it will never be

Re: Question about sa-updates

2024-06-21 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 22 Jun 2024, Paul Schmehl wrote: On Jun 22, 2024, at 12:28 AM, Kenneth Porter wrote: On 6/21/2024 8:56 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: I scratched my head, then looked up the man page for sa-update on the web. Sure enough, that’s where the rules go. Is that where my

Re: Question about sa-updates

2024-06-21 Thread Paul Schmehl
> On Jun 22, 2024, at 12:28 AM, Kenneth Porter wrote: > > On 6/21/2024 8:56 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> I scratched my head, then looked up the man page for sa-update on the web. >> Sure enough, that’s where the rules go. Is that where my local.cf file >> should be

Re: Question about sa-updates

2024-06-21 Thread Kenneth Porter
On 6/21/2024 8:56 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: I scratched my head, then looked up the man page for sa-update on the web. Sure enough, that’s where the rules go. Is that where my local.cf file should be located? Right now it’s in /etc/mail/spamassassin. There’s a default local.cf file in /var/lib

Question about sa-updates

2024-06-21 Thread Paul Schmehl
I just ran sa-updates. Then I looked in /etc/mail/spamassassin to see if the rules had been updated, and none of them had today’s date on them So, I downloaded the tar file, unzipped it, and searched for one of the files. I found them in /var/lib/spamassassin/…. I scratched my head, then

Sv: Re: Need some help decoding an SA analysis

2024-06-17 Thread Anders Gustafsson
Read the document. Upgraded. Ran sa-update (always forget that) We really have a very simple setup, except for our homegrown integration wiith our email system. So I added enable_compat welcomelist_blocklist" to init.pre Then did a search/replace of local.cf for all whitelist_fro

Re: Need some help decoding an SA analysis

2024-06-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
Anders Gustafsson skrev den 2024-06-16 13:42: This one: Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5 (2021-03-20) on xx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5,RDNS_NONE,

Re: Need some help decoding an SA analysis

2024-06-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.06.24 14:42, Anders Gustafsson wrote: Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5 (2021-03-20) on xx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5,RDNS_NONE, TO_EQ_FM

Need some help decoding an SA analysis

2024-06-16 Thread Anders Gustafsson
This one: Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5 (2021-03-20) on xx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5,RDNS_NONE, TO_EQ_FM_DIRECT_MX,TO_NO_BRKTS_NORDNS_HTML

Re: Difference between spamc -L and sa-learn

2024-05-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 2024-05-18 at 10:26:54 UTC-0400 (Sat, 18 May 2024 16:26:54 +0200) Francis Augusto Medeiros-Logeay is rumored to have said: Is there any difference between using spamc -L and sa-learn ? On 18.05.24 11:41, Bill Cole wrote: Yes. The compiled-C spamc binary loads no Perl, it just talks over a

Re: Difference between spamc -L and sa-learn

2024-05-18 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-18 at 10:26:54 UTC-0400 (Sat, 18 May 2024 16:26:54 +0200) Francis Augusto Medeiros-Logeay is rumored to have said: Hi, Is there any difference between using spamc -L and sa-learn ? Yes. The compiled-C spamc binary loads no Perl, it just talks over a socket to spamd, which is

Difference between spamc -L and sa-learn

2024-05-18 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros-Logeay
Hi, Is there any difference between using spamc -L and sa-learn ? I noticed that the later is way slower. I don’t use a journal for local updating, so both write directly to the database. Best, Francis

Re: SA treats percentage spaces wording as uri

2024-05-14 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-13 at 20:09:33 UTC-0400 (Tue, 14 May 2024 10:09:33 +1000) Noel Butler is rumored to have said: This morning one of our ent_domains DMARC weekly report from a third party was listed as spam by SA which took the wording Not_percent-twenty_Resolved and passed it off to URI checks

Re: SA treats percentage spaces wording as uri

2024-05-14 Thread Shawn Iverson
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:10 PM Noel Butler wrote: > This morning one of our ent_domains DMARC weekly report from a third party > was listed as spam by SA which took the wording > Not_percent-twenty_Resolved and passed it off to URI checks adding > dot.com to it when there is no d

Re: SA treats percentage spaces wording as uri

2024-05-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 14.05.24 10:09, Noel Butler wrote: This morning one of our ent_domains DMARC weekly report from a third party was listed as spam by SA which took the wording Not_percent-twenty_Resolved and passed it off to URI checks adding dot.com to it when there is no dot com after it, and a raw

SA treats percentage spaces wording as uri

2024-05-13 Thread Noel Butler
This morning one of our ent_domains DMARC weekly report from a third party was listed as spam by SA which took the wording Not_percent-twenty_Resolved and passed it off to URI checks adding dot.com to it when there is no dot com after it, and a raw message search of that message in less in

Re: SA 4.0.1 - DMARC plugin

2024-04-20 Thread Sidney Markowitz
spf= field, would result in this error. Sidney Mateusz Krawczyk wrote on 20/04/24 1:07 am: Hello, after updating SA 4.0.0 to 4.0.1, (CentOS 7 - Perl version 5.16.3) I get the following message in log regarding the DMARC plugin: plugin: eval failed: Can't use an undefined value as an ARR

Re: SA 4.0.1 - DMARC plugin

2024-04-19 Thread Sidney Markowitz
lt in this error. Sidney Mateusz Krawczyk wrote on 20/04/24 1:07 am: Hello, after updating SA 4.0.0 to 4.0.1, (CentOS 7 - Perl version 5.16.3) I get the following message in log regarding the DMARC plugin: plugin: eval failed: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/s

Re: SA 4.0.1 - DMARC plugin

2024-04-19 Thread Sidney Markowitz
that does not pass a DMARC chack, has one or more Authentication-Results headers, and none of them have an spf= field, would result in this error. Sidney Mateusz Krawczyk wrote on 20/04/24 1:07 am: Hello, after updating SA 4.0.0 to 4.0.1, (CentOS 7 - Perl version 5.16.3) I get the foll

SA 4.0.1 - DMARC plugin

2024-04-19 Thread Mateusz Krawczyk
Hello, after updating SA 4.0.0 to 4.0.1, (CentOS 7 - Perl version 5.16.3) I get the following message in log regarding the DMARC plugin: plugin: eval failed: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/DMARC.pm line 336. File "DMAR

Re: WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-13 Thread Noel Butler
On 13/04/2024 19:27, Marc wrote: All nice and well, but a bit decades to late. There should never have been such default whitelist. Companies should take care not be on blacklists, and should maintain some Absolutely, no arguments there! After all spf -all exists already for a long time. So

RE: WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-13 Thread Marc
All nice and well, but a bit decades to late. There should never have been such default whitelist. Companies should take care not be on blacklists, and should maintain some degree of standard implementation to send out email. After all spf -all exists already for a long time. So why are google/

Re: WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-12 Thread Noel Butler
On 13/04/2024 03:20, Bill Cole wrote: In my opinion, this is an indication that the default welcomelist entries in the official I'm good with that, so long as likes of google are not in any whitelist either. I haven't been following all the anti spam stuff as much as I used to (I have peop

Re: WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-12 Thread Jared Hall via users
ll justified as far as I know. This is entirely unrelated to any domains hosted by Microsoft, it is strictly an email address welcomelisting (see SA docs for details.) +1 This may raise some questions and trigger a debate on the formal meaning of the SA default welcomelist entries. That d

WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-12 Thread Bill Cole
which is still justified as far as I know. This is entirely unrelated to any domains hosted by Microsoft, it is strictly an email address welcomelisting (see SA docs for details.) I will be committing the rule change today and it should appear in the default rules distribution channel by Mon

Re: [sa-list] BIMI pilot at Google

2024-03-12 Thread Dan Mahoney
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 23:56, Luis E. Muñoz wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2020, at 23:14, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > >> However, I have questions of adoption rate, impersonation concerns, >> anticompetitive concerns, and privacy concerns. This just sounds like a >> commercial tracking pixel but the dev

Re: install SA p a i n f u l l

2024-01-30 Thread Bill Cole
s in 4.x, so without any specific details I can't really offer a solution. I can say that AS ALWAYS it is a bad idea to build and test ANY software as 'root' and SA does not accommodate doing so. There may well be places where the tests fail slowly if you run them as root. The on

Re: install SA p a i n f u l l

2024-01-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
, why? because its tests failed for timeouts this, timeouts that, everytime its set keeps on retrying reporting Why don't you install SA from packaging system? Don't you use FreeBSD or some linux distro? error: config: no rules were found! Do you need to run 'sa-update'? c

Re: install SA p a i n f u l l

2024-01-29 Thread Nick Edwards
I chose to install this whilst we left for lunch, but 45mins > later to my horror it was still trying to install, why? because its tests > failed for timeouts this, timeouts that, everytime its set keeps on > retrying reporting > > error: config: no rules were found! Do you need to ru

install SA p a i n f u l l

2024-01-29 Thread Nick Edwards
timeouts this, timeouts that, everytime its set keeps on retrying reporting error: config: no rules were found! Do you need to run 'sa-update'? config: no rules were found! Do you need to run 'sa-update'? of fricken course there is no rules, its a new fricken install that cp

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-20 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 15:15 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-19 11:12: > > > I rely on DNSWL for the reputable MX. > > if repution is 100% needed we all have to make local rescore on all > local mails, since repution is to be local, not external just > > i consid

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 1/19/24 16:32, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: There is a filtering rule in Gmail: *Never send it to Spam* I apply that rule to extremely important emails such as debian-bugs- dist and debian-devel-announce. You know that. I know that. But trying to

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/19/24 16:32, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: There is a filtering rule in Gmail: *Never send it to Spam* I apply that rule to extremely important emails such as debian-bugs- dist and debian-devel-announce. You know that. I know that. But trying to explain to the board members I'm helping out is.

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Hellow Thomas, > But it drops it into the spam folder every time. So when I'm sending > emails to someone's alias, they have to check their spam folder. Even > when they mark it as "not spam," GMail still drops it into the spam > folder. It's very frustrating. > There is a filtering rule in Gm

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/19/24 14:33, Matija Nalis wrote: You would need to encourage at least several of the recepients (the more the better) to click on "Not spam" button on GMail on such mails. Then it will (eventually) start accepting them normally. Yup, that's basically what I've been doing. see e.g. https

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Matija Nalis
On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 10:37:13AM -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > The forwarded email is being *accepted* by GMail. My issue now is that GMail > drops it into the recipient's spam folder. I suspect it's a reputation > thing. Once the server is up and running for a while, I'm hoping that GMail > wil

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/7/24 05:40, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for.  If email comes into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get forwarded to the president's "real" emai

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/7/24 04:07, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: Hellow Thomas, See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1043539#88 Sincerely, Byung-Hee The issue is not so much that GMail doesn't accept the email. It does, since I have DKIM, DMARC, and SPF set up. But it drops it into the spam folde

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-19 11:12: I rely on DNSWL for the reputable MX. if repution is 100% needed we all have to make local rescore on all local mails, since repution is to be local, not external just i consider dnswl level 0 to be possitive scored, and let the other levels be n

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Marc skrev den 2024-01-19 09:34: Hi Byung and Benny, are you having a nice MX party? :) not needed yet, hehe

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-19 06:16: Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Recently, i created dedicated MXs and am continuing to operate them. Plus, the dedicated MXs run on Google Cloud and RimuHosting. it was to vierd for me to figure out how to get it working, and posible in the

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 08:34 +, Marc wrote: > > > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27: > > > > > > > Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. > > > > > > +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :) > > > > > > > Hellow Benny, > > > > Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Rece

RE: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Marc
> > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27: > > > > > Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. > > > > +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :) > > > > Hellow Benny, > > Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Recently, i created dedicated > MXs and am continuing to operate them. Plu

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-18 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Mon, 2024-01-08 at 17:17 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27: > > > Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. > > +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :) > Hellow Benny, Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Recently, i created dedicated MXs

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27: Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :) https://support.google.com/a/answer/140034?hl=en i don't like it yet, missing dnssec and dane, tlsa, google is not friendly there if google wants my money

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
This is not a good advice. Whoever filters SPF at SMTP time will reject that message. Gmail is not the only mail service available. On 08.01.24 20:27, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. that's what I wanted to say - enough for someone, but not generally enoug

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-08 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
> > This is not a good advice. Whoever filters SPF at SMTP time will > reject that > message. Gmail is not the only mail service available. Hellow Matus, Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. Sincerely, Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-07 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get forwarded to the president's "real" email address, say presidents_real_em...@gmail.com.

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-07 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
> > I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email > comes > into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally > just > create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get > forwarded to the president's "real" email address, say > presidents_real_

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 01:24:02PM -0600, Thomas Cameron via users wrote: > On 1/2/24 17:51, Andy Smith wrote: > > - Have your users collect their your-org email by some means other > >than SMTP, such as running an IMAP server and having them view > >both their gmail mailbox and the

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/4/24 06:35, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 03.01.24 20:36, Thomas Cameron wrote: Fair point. But I'm guessing that because it has two DKIM signatures, it's not passing the DKIM check. only one of those DKIM dignatures needs to pass, with the domain in From: Yup, and it seems to be wor

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/4/24 06:31, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 03.01.24 19:30, Thomas Cameron wrote: Thanks for the advice on SRS - I have set it up and it's mostly working. At least GMail accepts the emails, although it seems to be failing DKIM and DMARC tests. I'm digging into what, if anything, can be d

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Thomas Cameron writes: Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the forwarded email on GMail, I see in the headers that both the original sending email server (call it mail.somedomain.com) and the relay server (call it mail.myassociation.org) put DKIM signatures in the message. On 1/3/24 19:45,

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 1/3/24 15:44, Bill Cole wrote: Indeed: your solution is known as "SRS" (Sender Rewriting Scheme) and it has multiple implementations. If you forward mail, you will break SPF unless you fix the envelope sender so that it uses a domain  that permits the example.org server to send for it. OR,

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/3/24 19:45, Greg Troxel wrote: Thomas Cameron writes: Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the forwarded email on GMail, I see in the headers that both the original sending email server (call it mail.somedomain.com) and the relay server (call it mail.myassociation.org) put DKIM signa

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Thomas Cameron writes: > Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the forwarded email on GMail, I > see in the headers that both the original sending email server (call > it mail.somedomain.com) and the relay server (call it > mail.myassociation.org) put DKIM signatures in the message. That's more

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/3/24 17:41, Greg Troxel wrote: You are overlooking that DKIM from the original From: is the responsibility of that domain and that if you do not modify the message then it should still pass. Domains sending without DKIM are going to be a mess. Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the fo

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/3/24 15:44, Bill Cole wrote: Indeed: your solution is known as "SRS" (Sender Rewriting Scheme) and it has multiple implementations. If you forward mail, you will break SPF unless you fix the envelope sender so that it uses a domain  that permits the example.org server to send for it. O

[SOLVED] Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/3/24 18:16, Michael Grant wrote: Here's what I have done in the past from my server to get around this situation you are having: 1. In my .procmailrc file :0c: !exam...@gmail.com This sends a copy (the c flag in first line) of the message to the gmail account and leaves a copy in your inb

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Michael Grant via users
Here's what I have done in the past from my server to get around this situation you are having: 1. In my .procmailrc file :0c: !exam...@gmail.com This sends a copy (the c flag in first line) of the message to the gmail account and leaves a copy in your inbox. 2. From your exam...@gmail.com acct

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Greg Troxel
"Thomas Cameron via users" writes: > I actually set up SPF, DMARC, and DKIM on the non-profit's email > server. It works fine if I send email from the server. > > The rub is, I want all emails to presid...@example.org to be forwarded > to presidents_real_addr...@gmail.com. Since the forward happe

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread admin
Hello Thomas, This might help too: These failures are often due to SPFs that have a hard fail (meaning they end with ‘-all’). When I dealt with this in the past, the original sending domain was one where we could modify the SPF. So we had the email sender change “-all” to “~all” and since that

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-01-03 at 14:17:11 UTC-0500 (Wed, 3 Jan 2024 13:17:11 -0600) Thomas Cameron via users is rumored to have said: The rub is, I want all emails to presid...@example.org to be forwarded to presidents_real_addr...@gmail.com. Since the forward happens at mail.example.org, the "from" is from s

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron via users
On 1/2/24 17:51, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Thomas, On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 04:24:37PM -0600, Thomas Cameron via users wrote: I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an alias in /etc/aliases s

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron via users
hout them. This is just an odd corner case where the easiest thing to do is just redirect emails to the non-profit's president's real email address. Instead of using /etc/aliases, I'm playing around with a procmail recipe to munge the "from." We'll see if it works.

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-02 Thread Jared Hall via users
, SPF/DKIM/DMARC Auth-neutral will become the new "bad". I apologize this isn't strictly SA related, I am just hoping someone can give me advice or provide I link to follow on how to make this work. package: opendkim + access to your managed domain's DNS records. $0.02, -- Jared Hall

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-02 Thread Greg Troxel
"Thomas Cameron via users" writes: > I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes > into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just > create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get > forwarded to the president's "real" email addre

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Thomas, On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 04:24:37PM -0600, Thomas Cameron via users wrote: > I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes into > the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an > alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get

Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-02 Thread Thomas Cameron via users
apologize this isn't strictly SA related, I am just hoping someone can give me advice or provide I link to follow on how to make this work. Thanks, Thomas

Re: missing something in new SA config

2023-12-28 Thread AJ Weber
what is in the /etc/mail/spamassassin/.razor/razor-agent.conf ? debuglevel = 3 identity   = identity ignorelist = 0 listfile_catalogue = servers.catalogue.lst listfile_discovery = servers.discovery.lst listfile_nomination    = servers.nomination.lst

Re: missing something in new SA config

2023-12-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 27.12.23 10:30, AJ Weber wrote: Migrating a mailserver with SA and I see this in my log when testing: spamd[30912]: razor2: razor2 check failed: No such file or directory razor2: Can't read: /var/lib/razor/ at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line 331.

Re: missing something in new SA config

2023-12-27 Thread AJ Weber
Thanks for the reply. SA v3.4.6 razor is installed: optional module installed: Razor2::Client::Agent, version 2.84 razor plugin is enabled in v310.pre: loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Razor2 I don't see any "logs" in the first page of the lint output. Would you b

Re: missing something in new SA config

2023-12-27 Thread Benny Pedersen
AJ Weber skrev den 2023-12-27 16:30: Migrating a mailserver with SA and I see this in my log when testing: spamd[30912]: razor2: razor2 check failed: No such file or directory razor2: Can't read: /var/lib/razor/ at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line

missing something in new SA config

2023-12-27 Thread AJ Weber
Migrating a mailserver with SA and I see this in my log when testing: spamd[30912]: razor2: razor2 check failed: No such file or directory razor2: Can't read: /var/lib/razor/ at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line 331. My local.cf has the foll

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-06 Thread Kenneth Porter
On 12/6/2023 5:19 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: can't procmail use X-Spam-Flag ? I think the reason I run it twice is that the mimedefang invocation doesn't have access to personal Bayes data. When it runs, it's not yet known what user(s) the mail is destined for.

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-06 Thread Benny Pedersen
Kenneth Porter skrev den 2023-12-06 08:25: On 12/5/2023 10:57 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: mimedefang does not use spamd, you only need either spamassassin only with spamd or mimedefang with spamassassin not running spamd It's a small server so I can afford to run SA twice, once at th

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-06 Thread Martin Gregorie
ll server so I can afford to run SA twice, once at the MTA > level through mimedefang (which can potentially reject egregious > spam), > and once during delivery via procmail, which invokes spamc. > > I'm run ing the XFCE spin of Redhat Linux and found  vmlinuz-6.6.2-101.fc38.x

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-06 Thread giovanni
On 12/6/23 08:25, Kenneth Porter wrote: On 12/5/2023 10:57 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: mimedefang does not use spamd, you only need either spamassassin only with spamd or mimedefang with spamassassin not running spamd It's a small server so I can afford to run SA twice, once at the MTA

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-05 Thread Kenneth Porter
On 12/5/2023 10:57 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: mimedefang does not use spamd, you only need either spamassassin only with spamd or mimedefang with spamassassin not running spamd It's a small server so I can afford to run SA twice, once at the MTA level through mimedefang (which can potent

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
Kenneth Porter skrev den 2023-12-06 00:29: After installing the package, I found I needed to manually restart spamd and also mimedefang with: # systemctl restart spamassassin # systemctl restart mimedefang After that I saw errors from my nightly sa-learn jobs about a missing HashCash module

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-05 Thread Kenneth Porter
After installing the package, I found I needed to manually restart spamd and also mimedefang with: # systemctl restart spamassassin # systemctl restart mimedefang After that I saw errors from my nightly sa-learn jobs about a missing HashCash module. I checked for a .rpmnew file in /etc/mail

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