On 13/04/2024 19:27, Marc wrote:

All nice and well, but a bit decades to late. There should never have been such default whitelist. Companies should take care not be on blacklists, and should maintain some

Absolutely, no arguments there!

After all spf -all exists already for a long time. So why are google/microsoft/yahoo etc still not using it? Why don't

Mostly because all the google spam would pass spf/dkim/dmarc anyway, at least tehy tend to learn you more as ham than spam if you send to them with spf.

they separate free/spam clients on different infrastructure.

Google do IIRC, Microsoft don't, it's why you wont find many of our sites in bing, because they use their own search bots in IP ranges shared with f'wit script kiddies, and I issued a directive no whitelisting for MS search bots - not until they stick em all in one subnet that does not, never has and never will have customers in it.

Now these companies are big enough to abuse the market and force everyone to customize just for them. If you would

sadly, thats true, they think they are too big to block, but they have all at some time found I don't work that way, nobody, is too big to block, and its a shame that likes of spamhaus and spamcop operate that way too, essentially shrugging their shoulders and going "oh well"

It is just crazy that on the internet you are expected to clean up someone else's mess.

Ahmen to that.

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Regards,
Noel Butler

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