Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-27 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: James Gray wrote: Sorbs sux, don't use it. Last time we had this problem they wanted money (and not an insignificant amount either) to remove a listing from their systems. They arbitrarily add addresses to a database the IP's owner can't control, then

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-27 Thread Justin Mason
James E. Pratt writes: > > Do your own queries and whois lookups...but these address blocks are > > INCORRECTLY LISTED BY SORBS and they refuse (yes, I've heard from > > them) to remove them. Apparently because our inbound and outbound > > MTA's don't use the same addresses! I have no idea what

RE: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-27 Thread James E. Pratt
> > Do your own queries and whois lookups...but these address blocks are > INCORRECTLY LISTED BY SORBS and they refuse (yes, I've heard from them) > to remove them. Apparently because our inbound and outbound MTA's > don't > use the same addresses! I have no idea what crack-monkey at SORBS > wro

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-27 Thread James Gray
Matt Kettler wrote: James Gray wrote: Sorbs sux, don't use it. Last time we had this problem they wanted money (and not an insignificant amount either) to remove a listing from their systems. They arbitrarily add addresses to a database the IP's owner can't control, then demand money to re

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-27 Thread Matt Kettler
James Gray wrote: Sorbs sux, don't use it. Last time we had this problem they wanted money (and not an insignificant amount either) to remove a listing from their systems. They arbitrarily add addresses to a database the IP's owner can't control, then demand money to remove the listing; wh

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-27 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: [snip] I didn't ASK FOR HELP! I asked what people's thoughts were on keeping a list like SORBS_DUL in the base/default spamassassin rules. I'm quite capable of fixing the mess I inherited. As long as - it doesn't cause FPs - it helps catch spam - it is free for use/access

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread James Gray
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 25.03.08 07:57, James Gray wrote: Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's practically useless Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I don't find it useless. It works qu

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: [snip] According to SORBS: Netblock:202.147.75.0/26 (202.147.75.0-202.147.75.63) Record Created:Thu May 11 02:23:32 2006 GMT Record Updated:Thu May 11 02:23:32 2006 GMT Additional Information:[MU] Dynamic/Generic IP/rDNS address, use your ISPs mail server or ge

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread James Gray
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote: while you are at it, fix your DNS. your domain has been succesfully submitted to rfci (boguxms): http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=gray.net.au On 26.03.08 11:30, James Gray wrote: Yes - that's one

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread James Gray
mouss wrote: Justin Mason wrote: James Gray writes: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:09:47 pm D Hill wrote: Now your confusing the subject. The previous response you made was from: From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now you are using: From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BOTH of those

RE: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread James E. Pratt
> > > > Why? Can you remove them from the SORBS_DUL? No, then it's not > really > > relevant then is it ;) > > I was trying to help you find the real problem. If you don't want help, > stop > bitching. > > I have seen more requests here to stop using some blacklists because of > the > requestor

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread mouss
Justin Mason wrote: James Gray writes: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:09:47 pm D Hill wrote: Now your confusing the subject. The previous response you made was from: From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now you are using: From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BOTH of those domains poin

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread Justin Mason
James Gray writes: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:09:47 pm D Hill wrote: > > Now your confusing the subject. The previous response you made was from: > > > >From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Now you are using: > > > >From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > BOTH of those domains p

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote: > > while you are at it, fix your DNS. your domain has been succesfully > > submitted to rfci (boguxms): > > http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=gray.net.au On 26.03.08 11:30, James Gray wrote: > Yes - that's one of my personal dom

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> >On 25.03.08 07:57, James Gray wrote: > >>Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of > >>SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's > >>practically useless > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >I don't find it useless. It works quite well On 26

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread James Gray
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:59:19 pm mouss wrote: > James Gray wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote: > >> James Gray wrote: > >>> Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of > >>> SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that > >>> it's practi

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread James Gray
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:09:47 pm D Hill wrote: > Now your confusing the subject. The previous response you made was from: > >From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Now you are using: > >From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > BOTH of those domains point to an MX that has a CNAME to: > >

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote: James Gray wrote: Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's practically useless and if you are an unfortunate who ends up incorr

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread D Hill
Now your confusing the subject. The previous response you made was from: From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now you are using: From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BOTH of those domains point to an MX that has a CNAME to: smtp.mas.viperplatform.net.au On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 at 00:51 -00

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread James Gray
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:32 am D Hill wrote: > Actually, closer inspection shows your: > >    ns2.viperplatform.net.au > > is still reporting back: > >    smtp.mas.viperplatform.net.au You're assuming gray.net.au and the viperplatform.net.au domains are the same...they're not. If you query MY D

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread D Hill
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 at 00:47 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 at 11:39 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote: James Gray wrote: Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dy

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread D Hill
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 at 11:39 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote: James Gray wrote: Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's practically useless and i

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread James Gray
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote: > James Gray wrote: > > Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of > > SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that > > it's practically useless and if you are an unfortunate who ends up > > incorrectly listed

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread James Gray
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote: > James Gray wrote: > > Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of > > SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that > > it's practically useless and if you are an unfortunate who ends up > > incorrectly listed

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread James Gray
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 25.03.08 07:57, James Gray wrote: Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's practically useless I don't find it useless. It works quite well Unless you receive ma

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
James Gray wrote: Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's practically useless and if you are an unfortunate who ends up incorrectly listed in it, good luck getting off it! Case at hand, the compa

RE: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread Rose, Bobby
It does makes sense that they would list unused/unowned netblocks in APNIC in their database probably because of the probability that such blocks would get assigned to an ISP which more than likely offer it up as dynamic. I haven't looked there in a while but I thought it explained conditions for

Re: SORBS_DUL

2008-03-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 25.03.08 07:57, James Gray wrote: > Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of > SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's > practically useless I don't find it useless. It works quite well > and if you are an unfortunate who ends up > in

Re: SORBS_DUL and NJABL_DUL

2005-07-07 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the slight delay, replies inline: At 01:39 07-07-05, Daryl C. W. O'Shea - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Received: from host-212-158-194-14.bulldogdsl.com (HELO phoenix.example.com) (212.158.194.14) by secure.example.name with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP;

Re: SORBS_DUL and NJABL_DUL

2005-07-07 Thread rns . spamassassin . n . semba
Sorry for the slight delay, replies inline: At 01:39 07-07-05, Daryl C. W. O'Shea - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Received: from host-212-158-194-14.bulldogdsl.com (HELO phoenix.example.com) (212.158.194.14) by secure.example.name with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Jul 2005 10:00:52 +0100

Re: SORBS_DUL and NJABL_DUL

2005-07-07 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Rick Macdougall wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Received: from host-212-158-194-14.bulldogdsl.com (HELO phoenix.example.com) (212.158.194.14) by secure.example.name with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Jul 2005 10:00:52 +0100 What SMTP service generates

Re: SORBS_DUL and NJABL_DUL

2005-07-06 Thread Rick Macdougall
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Received: from host-212-158-194-14.bulldogdsl.com (HELO phoenix.example.com) (212.158.194.14) by secure.example.name with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Jul 2005 10:00:52 +0100 What SMTP service generates this header? Hi Daryl

Re: SORBS_DUL and NJABL_DUL

2005-07-06 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Received: from host-212-158-194-14.bulldogdsl.com (HELO phoenix.example.com) (212.158.194.14) by secure.example.name with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Jul 2005 10:00:52 +0100 What SMTP service generates this header? phoenix.example.com is a machine NATte

Re: SORBS_DUL and NJABL_DUL

2005-07-05 Thread mouss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just sent myself two test-mails from my home machine, and realised that they were both triggering the RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL and RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL tests, and scoring alarmingly high, but brought down again due to the Bayes tests: -- Complete Mail