On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:59:19 pm mouss wrote:
> James Gray wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:31:34 am mouss wrote:
> >> James Gray wrote:
> >>> Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of
> >>> SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that
> >>> it's practically useless and if you are an unfortunate who ends up
> >>> incorrectly listed in it, good luck getting off it!  Case at hand, the
> >>> company I work for purchased a /19 address block directly from APNIC
> >>> before anyone else had it (IOW, we were the first users of that block).
> >>>
> >>> We now have both our external mail IP's listed in SORBS_DUL despite
> >>> the fact the /24 they belong to, and the /24's on either side have
> >>> NEVER been part of a dynamic pool.  SORBS refuse to delist them as our
> >>> MX records are different to these outgoing mail servers!  FFS - we run
> >>> managed services for a number of ISP's why the hell would we *want* to
> >>> munge all our inbound and outbound mail through the same IP's?!?
> >>>
> >>> Seriously folks, can we make SORBS_DUL optional and not "on by
> >>> default" in the general distribution?
> >>
> >> If you have a complaint, provide _evidence_. otherwise, it goes to
> >> /dev/troll0.
> >
> > Meh - call me a troll. I'm posting here (personally, not as part of work)
> > as a long-time SpamAssassin and mail server user/administrator and have
> > no need to prove anything about my work systems.
>
> I am not asking you to prove anything about your work systems or about
> yourself. you have accused sorbs but provided nothing to support your
> accusation.

Talk to some admins who've been in this situation.  Getting de-listed for 
erroneous listings on SORBS is a time consuming and painful process.  Compare 
this with the process for RFCI, spamhaus, et al.  I stand by my criticisms.

> The real issue is that your MX points to a CNAME. This is why I
> submitted the domain to rfci. fix this and get delisted (on rfci, of
> course).

No, my secondary MX pointed to A record, then another (junior) admin took it 
upon themselves to "re-engineer" some DNS records.  Consequently, what was 
once-upon-a-time an A record, turned into a CNAME.  I've updated the 
secondary MX for my domains (and the affected work ones) and all is well with 
the world.

James
-- 
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