Re: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-24 Thread Stephan Fourie
Hi Charles, Yes, it was an incorrectly escaped forward slash in a subject rule. On 2019/06/24 16:12, Charles Amstutz wrote: Hi Charles, My apologies, I forgot to provide feedback to the mailing list. Bad regex was the cause of this problem for us, too. As soon as the custom rule was fixed, the

RE: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-24 Thread Charles Amstutz
> Hi Charles, > > My apologies, I forgot to provide feedback to the mailing list. Bad regex was > the cause of this problem for us, too. As soon as the custom rule was fixed, > the problem went away. If I can ask, was it an incorrectly escaped special character? I think it is the @ symbol break

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-24 Thread Stephan Fourie
Hi Charles, My apologies, I forgot to provide feedback to the mailing list. Bad regex was the cause of this problem for us, too. As soon as the custom rule was fixed, the problem went away. Kind Regards, Stephan On 2019/06/24 15:58, Charles Amstutz wrote: But as has already been pointed o

RE: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-24 Thread Charles Amstutz
> But as has already been pointed out it has the combination of > MISSING_FROM and HK_RANDOM_FROM, and the latter is based on a > From:addr test. I saw this too, however, I thought I noticed a potentially bad regex (from another custom rule) breaking mine. I think this is the case as when I re

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-04 Thread RW
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 18:10:51 +0300 Savvas Karagiannidis wrote: > Hi, > > my guess is that for some reason an empty line is inserted in the > email somewhere above the headers and before the message is processed > by spamassassin. This will cause all headers below this empty line to > be treated as

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-04 Thread Savvas Karagiannidis
Hi, my guess is that for some reason an empty line is inserted in the email somewhere above the headers and before the message is processed by spamassassin. This will cause all headers below this empty line to be treated as the actual body of the message, so all missing header tests will hit

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 04.06.19 16:29, Stephan Fourie wrote: My apologies, seems something went wrong with the formatting when it was pasted to the pastebin. Here's a new example with spacing intact: https://pastebin.com/raw/tQtSMQPs In this example some of the other headers were also not 'seen'. there's someth

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-04 Thread Stephan Fourie
Hi, My apologies, seems something went wrong with the formatting when it was pasted to the pastebin. Here's a new example with spacing intact: https://pastebin.com/raw/tQtSMQPs In this example some of the other headers were also not 'seen'. Thanks! Stephan On 2019/06/04 10:55, Matus UHLAR -

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 3 Jun 2019, at 2:20, Stephan Fourie wrote: > We're currently seeing the rule MISSING_SUBJECT sporadically > hitting on emails that have a subject. This issue seems to have > started during last week, which is when clients started complaining > about false positive detections. Please see example

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-03 Thread RW
On Mon, 03 Jun 2019 11:43:44 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > On 3 Jun 2019, at 2:20, Stephan Fourie wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > We're currently seeing the rule MISSING_SUBJECT sporadically > > hitting on emails that have a subject. This issue seems to have > > started during last week, which is when client

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT rule on email with subject

2019-06-03 Thread Bill Cole
On 3 Jun 2019, at 2:20, Stephan Fourie wrote: Hi, We're currently seeing the rule MISSING_SUBJECT sporadically hitting on emails that have a subject. This issue seems to have started during last week, which is when clients started complaining about false positive detections. Please see examp

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-17 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, RW wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 14:19:25 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: meta ENCRYPTED_MESSAGE __CT_ENCRYPTED header __CT_ENCRYPTEDContent-Type =~ /^multipart\/(?:x-)?(?:pgp-)?encrypted|application\/(?:x-)?pkcs7-mime/ __CT_ENCRYPTED is for now better solution, m

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-17 Thread RW
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 14:19:25 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > meta ENCRYPTED_MESSAGE __CT_ENCRYPTED > header __CT_ENCRYPTEDContent-Type > =~ /^multipart\/(?:x-)?(?:pgp-)?encrypted|application\/(?:x-)?pkcs7-mime/ > > __CT_ENCRYPTED is for now better solution, mostly because of someone

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, micah anderson wrote: > I had a message marked with: > > 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no > Subject: > > It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only > encrypted) On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:36:02 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-16 Thread RW
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:36:02 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, micah anderson wrote: > > > I had a message marked with: > > > > 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no > > Subject: > > > > It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although o

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 15.06.18 09:04, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, micah anderson wrote: I had a message marked with: 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no Subject: It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only encrypted) John Hardin

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, micah anderson wrote: I had a message marked with: 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no Subject: It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only encrypted) John Hardin writes: It may not be considering an encrypted me

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-14 Thread micah anderson
John Hardin writes: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, micah anderson wrote: > >> I had a message marked with: >> >> 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no >> Subject: >> >> It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only >> encrypted) > > It may not be consid

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-13 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 12.06.18 19:37, micah anderson wrote: 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no Subject: It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only encrypted) it also hit: * 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing S

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-13 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, micah anderson wrote: I had a message marked with: 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no Subject: It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only encrypted) It may not be considering an encrypted message part to be a text

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.06.18 19:37, micah anderson wrote: 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no Subject: It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only encrypted) it also hit: * 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header which makes sense, because the mail d

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-13 Thread Rupert Gallagher
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:38, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > MISSING_SUBJECT is here because when message has no Subject:, it is highly > probably spam. Right. Well, my new accountant, being an external company of 16 people, insists in sending messages without a subject, "because we always d

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-13 Thread micah anderson
Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > On 12.06.18 19:37, micah anderson wrote: >>2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no >>Subject: >> >>It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only >>encrypted) it also hit: >> >>* 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.06.18 19:37, micah anderson wrote: 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no Subject: It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only encrypted) it also hit: * 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header which makes sense, because the mail d

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2018-06-12 Thread micah anderson
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 13.06.2018 um 01:37 schrieb micah anderson: >> I had a message marked with: >> >> 2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no >> Subject: >> >> It did not have a subject, but it did have content (although only >> encrypted) it also hit: >> >

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-21 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 19/09/17 15:05, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 9/19/2017 9:11 AM, David Jones wrote: I have had these in place for years.  Maybe Kevin can consolidate and integrate this into his KAM.cf so I could remove them or we could eventually get them into the default SA ruleset after some testing. Hi

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread RW
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:06:58 -0500 David Jones wrote: > header ENA_SUBJ_IS_SPACE Subject =~ /^ $/ > >>> > >>> The OP said there was a space after 'Subject:', so that rule > >>> wouldn't detect it. > My point was supposed to be a single space should hit > MISSING_SUBJECT and

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread David Jones
On 09/19/2017 09:35 AM, RW wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:05:44 -0400 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 9/19/2017 9:11 AM, David Jones wrote: I have had these in place for years.  Maybe Kevin can consolidate and integrate this into his KAM.cf so I could remove them or we could eventually get them into

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread David Jones
On 09/19/2017 09:03 AM, RW wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:32:12 -0500 David Jones wrote: On 09/19/2017 08:20 AM, RW wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:11:03 -0500 David Jones wrote: header ENA_SUBJ_IS_SPACE Subject =~ /^ $/ The OP said there was a space after 'Subject:', so that

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread RW
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:05:44 -0400 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 9/19/2017 9:11 AM, David Jones wrote: > > I have had these in place for years.  Maybe Kevin can consolidate > > and integrate this into his KAM.cf so I could remove them or we > > could eventually get them into the default SA ruleset

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 9/19/2017 9:11 AM, David Jones wrote: I have had these in place for years.  Maybe Kevin can consolidate and integrate this into his KAM.cf so I could remove them or we could eventually get them into the default SA ruleset after some testing. Hi David, Thanks.  In addition to KAM.cf, I mai

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread RW
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:32:12 -0500 David Jones wrote: > On 09/19/2017 08:20 AM, RW wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:11:03 -0500 > > David Jones wrote: > >> header ENA_SUBJ_IS_SPACE Subject =~ /^ $/ > > > > The OP said there was a space after 'Subject:', so that rule > > wouldn'

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread David Jones
On 09/19/2017 08:20 AM, RW wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:11:03 -0500 David Jones wrote: On 09/19/2017 07:23 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Is it purposeful extra space though that might indicate spaminess? Spample? Regards, KAM On September 19, 2017 8:13:09 AM EDT, RW wrote: On Tue, 19 Se

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread RW
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:11:03 -0500 David Jones wrote: > On 09/19/2017 07:23 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > Is it purposeful extra space though that might indicate spaminess? > > Spample? Regards, > > KAM > > > > On September 19, 2017 8:13:09 AM EDT, RW > > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 19 Sep 201

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread RW
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:13:09 +0100 RW wrote: > On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:27:13 +0100 > Sebastian Arcus wrote: > > > I've had a number of emails with no subject not triggering the > > MISSING_SUBJECT rule - only to discover that the spammers have added > > a white space after 'Subject:' > Some pe

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread David Jones
On 09/19/2017 07:23 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Is it purposeful extra space though that might indicate spaminess? Spample? Regards, KAM On September 19, 2017 8:13:09 AM EDT, RW wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:27:13 +0100 Sebastian Arcus wrote: I've had a number of emails with n

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Is it purposeful extra space though that might indicate spaminess? Spample? Regards, KAM On September 19, 2017 8:13:09 AM EDT, RW wrote: >On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:27:13 +0100 >Sebastian Arcus wrote: > >> I've had a number of emails with no subject not triggering the >> MISSING_SUBJECT rule - onl

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT not triggered if subject contains whitespace

2017-09-19 Thread RW
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:27:13 +0100 Sebastian Arcus wrote: > I've had a number of emails with no subject not triggering the > MISSING_SUBJECT rule - only to discover that the spammers have added > a white space after 'Subject:' - which appears to fool the code into > thinking that there is an act

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT misfiring?

2016-01-10 Thread RW
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:01:15 -0500 Greg Troxel wrote: > ... > All four had MISSING_SUBJECT, but when I looked at the headers they > had valid subjects. > ... > So I wonder if there is some recent breakage in the MISSING_SUBJECT > rule. I'm not seeing this. Perhaps something is corrupting your he

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT versus empty subject

2014-11-20 Thread Mark Martinec
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I remember I have asked the same some years ago. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/spamassassin/users/104646 the explanation was that the current rule detects empty subject the same as no subject at all. IIRC it was in fact the same rule as it is now: header

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT versus empty subject

2014-11-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 19.11.14 19:01, Reindl Harald wrote: i have here a message hitting "BAYES_95, CUST_DNSWL_2, CUST_DNSWL_5, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_NONE" but *not* MISSING_SUBJECT most likely because "Subject: " in the headers is that inten

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT versus empty subject

2014-11-20 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Reindl, Wednesday, November 19, 2014, 6:01:32 PM, you wrote: RH> should there not be a "SUBJECT_EMPTY" rule header __NH_BLANK_SUB Subject =~ /^\s*$/ describe__NH_BLANK_SUB Subject is blank metaNH_EMPTY_SUB

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT versus empty subject

2014-11-19 Thread Axb
On 11/19/2014 07:29 PM, Axb wrote: On 11/19/2014 07:25 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 11/19/2014 1:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: back to list :-) Sorry about that. > i thought about a by default 0 scored rule enabled and scored only via "local.cf" by the admin or very low scored (0.001) which

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT versus empty subject

2014-11-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.11.2014 um 19:25 schrieb Kevin A. McGrail: On 11/19/2014 1:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: back to list :-) Sorry about that no problem i thought about a by default 0 scored rule enabled and scored only via "local.cf" by the admin or very low scored (0.001) which might make the differen

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT versus empty subject

2014-11-19 Thread Axb
On 11/19/2014 07:25 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 11/19/2014 1:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: back to list :-) Sorry about that. > i thought about a by default 0 scored rule enabled and scored only via "local.cf" by the admin or very low scored (0.001) which might make the difference FN/caught

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT versus empty subject

2014-11-19 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: i thought about a by default 0 scored rule enabled and scored only via "local.cf" by the admin or very low scored (0.001) which might make the difference FN/caught and should not hurt a legit message anything with else OK It's more useful to do that

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT versus empty subject

2014-11-19 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 11/19/2014 1:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: back to list :-) Sorry about that. > i thought about a by default 0 scored rule enabled and scored only via "local.cf" by the admin or very low scored (0.001) which might make the difference FN/caught and should not hurt a legit message anything wi

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT versus empty subject

2014-11-19 Thread Reindl Harald
back to list :-) Am 19.11.2014 um 19:13 schrieb Kevin A. McGrail: On 11/19/2014 1:01 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Hi i have here a message hitting "BAYES_95, CUST_DNSWL_2, CUST_DNSWL_5, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_NONE" but *not* MISS

RE: MISSING_SUBJECT and RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME disappeared from 3.1.x tests?

2007-08-12 Thread Leon Kolchinsky
> They no longer hit enough spam to be worth keeping, so they were removed. > Just remove the scores when you upgrade. > > Loren Thanks, I've suspected that :) Leon

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT and RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME disappeared from 3.1.x tests?

2007-08-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Loren Wilton wrote on Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:09:34 -0700: > They no longer hit enough spam to be worth keeping, so they were removed. > Just remove the scores when you upgrade. > and MISSING_SUBJECT LOL, there was just a whole rush of no subject spam. ;-) I noticed that because the greylist milter

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT and RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME disappeared from 3.1.x tests?

2007-08-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Leon Kolchinsky wrote on Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:32:36 +0300: > Should I just remove them from my local.cf before upgrade? Run a spamassassin --lint after upgrade (which you should do always, anyway), this will bark about those scores and you can remove them. No need to check each time if they stil

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT and RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME disappeared from 3.1.x tests?

2007-08-11 Thread Loren Wilton
They no longer hit enough spam to be worth keeping, so they were removed. Just remove the scores when you upgrade. Loren I've found that: 1) RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME and MISSING_SUBJECT now missing in both (3.1.x and 3.2.x) These scores were intact for my 3.1.7 installation when I configu

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2007-02-02 Thread Martin Gill
On Fri, February 2, 2007 17:56, Rick Vestal wrote: > > > Martin Gill-2 wrote: >> [snip] >> > > Mark is 100%. You have misformatted a rule somewhere along the line. Lint > your rules and it'll turn up. > > I went thru the same thing at one point... drove me crazy. > [snip] > > Yes, that was the

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2007-02-02 Thread Rick Vestal
Martin Gill-2 wrote: > > Hi, > > I've been watching my spam assassin rules for a while and I'm getting a > bit confused with a couple of them. > > The MISSING_SUBJECT rule fires on every email, even though they actually > have a "Subject:" header and spam assassin actually modifies the messag

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Martinec
Martin, > The MISSING_SUBJECT rule fires on every email, even though they actually > have a "Subject:" header If I remember corrently, this effect can be produced by having syntactically incorrect rules. Make sure to run 'spamassassin --lint' before starting with modified rules! Mark

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT

2007-01-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:48:18PM -, Martin Gill wrote: > The MISSING_SUBJECT rule fires on every email, even though they actually > have a "Subject:" header and spam assassin actually modifies the message > to add it's SPAM tag. > Anyone able to explain this to me please? Have I misunderstood

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT always matching

2006-08-21 Thread Mark Martinec
Jessica Perry Hekman writes: > Hi all. I just started using spamassassin for the first time. It's > marking everything as spam, because MISSING_SUBJECT is always matching, > although the mail does have Subject: lines. Btw, the last time the very same thing happened to me was because of an unrelate

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT always matching

2006-08-21 Thread Jessica Perry Hekman
Well, that got me going in the right direction -- it sounded reasonable so I started mucking with some messages that had come in, and what I discovered is that all incoming messages were getting two copies of their "From:" lines written, one with a preceding ">". I imagine SA reaches that ">" a

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT always matching

2006-08-21 Thread Justin Mason
hi Jessica -- I would suggest checking line endings -- that's a classic symptom of \r\n being used where other parts of the mail delivery pipeline are expecting \n. --j. Jessica Perry Hekman writes: >Hi all. I just started using spamassassin for the first time. It's >marking everything as spam

Re: MISSING_SUBJECT always firing

2005-05-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:56 AM 5/26/2005, Shawn R. Beairsto wrote: Hi everyone, I'm running SA 3.02 for a few weeks now together with amavisd-new-20030616 and it seems that MISSING_SUBJECT is firing on every mail even if there is a Subject: header and it's not empty. Has anyone experienced this problem or have