Re: Hashcash not working

2015-08-01 Thread Bill Cole
On 31 Jul 2015, at 13:23, Christian Jaeger wrote: On July 31, 2015 4:51:02 PM CEST, Bill Cole wrote: John Levine wrote a definitive debunking of e-postage schemes including hashcash over a decade ago (http://www.taugh.com/epostage.pdf) and published an update (substantively unchanged) via Viru

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, RW wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:47:34 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: nevermind, envelope recipient, but that's also easy and contained in the Received headers Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mail-gw.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE GATEWAY) with

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Kris Deugau
Christian Jaeger wrote: > On July 31, 2015 9:13:03 PM CEST, RW wrote: >> On 31 Jul 2015 17:57:28 +0200 >> Christian Jaeger wrote: >> >>> On July 31, 2015 4:37:14 PM CEST, RW >>> wrote: SA usually gets envelope information from headers. Since there are several headers that could contain

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
On July 31, 2015 9:13:03 PM CEST, RW wrote: > On 31 Jul 2015 17:57:28 +0200 > Christian Jaeger wrote: > > > On July 31, 2015 4:37:14 PM CEST, RW > > wrote: > > > SA usually gets envelope information from headers. Since there are > > > several headers that could contain the envelope recipient, it

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread RW
On 31 Jul 2015 17:57:28 +0200 Christian Jaeger wrote: > On July 31, 2015 4:37:14 PM CEST, RW > wrote: > > SA usually gets envelope information from headers. Since there are > > several headers that could contain the envelope recipient, it would > > need to be configured, so still wouldn't work by

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
On July 31, 2015 4:51:02 PM CEST, Bill Cole wrote: > John Levine wrote a definitive debunking of e-postage schemes > including > hashcash over a decade ago (http://www.taugh.com/epostage.pdf) and > published an update (substantively unchanged) via Virus Bulletin in > 2009 > (https://www.virusb

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
On July 31, 2015 4:37:14 PM CEST, RW wrote: > SA usually gets envelope information from headers. Since there are > several headers that could contain the envelope recipient, it would > need to be configured, so still wouldn't work by default. That's why I mentioned RECIPIENT. The MTA knows where

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread RW
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:47:34 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > nevermind, envelope recipient, but that's also easy and contained in > the Received headers > > > Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) > by mail-gw.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE GATEWAY) with SMTP id > 3mjWRW6GLQz1

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Bill Cole
On 31 Jul 2015, at 7:36, Christian Jaeger wrote: On July 30, 2015 2:40:35 AM CEST, RW wrote: The plugin is on by default and use_hashcash defaults to 1, but you need to set hashcash_accept to an appropriate value That's disappointing. For me that barely counts as "on by default". I was

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Reindl Harald
nevermind, envelope recipient, but that's also easy and contained in the Received headers Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mail-gw.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE GATEWAY) with SMTP id 3mjWRW6GLQz1l for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:37:43 +0200 (CEST) Am 31.07.2015 um 16:4

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.07.2015 um 16:37 schrieb RW: On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:36:21 +0200 Christian Jaeger wrote: On July 30, 2015 2:40:35 AM CEST, RW wrote: The plugin is on by default and use_hashcash defaults to 1, but you need to set hashcash_accept to an appropriate value That's disappointing. For me t

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread RW
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:36:21 +0200 Christian Jaeger wrote: > On July 30, 2015 2:40:35 AM CEST, RW > wrote: > > The plugin is on by default and use_hashcash defaults to 1, but you > > need to set hashcash_accept to an appropriate value > > That's disappointing. For me that barely counts as "on

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
On July 30, 2015 2:40:35 AM CEST, RW wrote: > The plugin is on by default and use_hashcash defaults to 1, but you > need to set hashcash_accept to an appropriate value That's disappointing. For me that barely counts as "on by default". I was thinking that implementing hashcash would help get m

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-29 Thread RW
On 29 Jul 2015 20:55:55 +0200 Christian Jaeger wrote: > Hi > > I've implemented (or at least so I thought) Hashcash for my outgoing > mail (in a Perl wrapper around qmail-remote that I already had to do > DKIM), using the `hashcash` tool as provided by Debian, using the > `-X` command-line option

Re: Hashcash

2006-08-30 Thread Arik Raffael Funke
decoder wrote: Arik Raffael Funke wrote: decoder wrote: Arik Raffael Funke wrote: Hello, how does spamassassin handle hashcash? It is turned on by default, right? Yes but you still need to define your accept range as you tried to do above:) I am using v3.1.2 and have in init.pre "loadplugin

Re: Hashcash

2006-08-29 Thread decoder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arik Raffael Funke wrote: > decoder wrote: >> Arik Raffael Funke wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> how does spamassassin handle hashcash? It is turned on by >>> default, right? >> Yes but you still need to define your accept range as you tried >> to do above:)

Re: Hashcash

2006-08-29 Thread Arik Raffael Funke
decoder wrote: Arik Raffael Funke wrote: Hello, how does spamassassin handle hashcash? It is turned on by default, right? Yes but you still need to define your accept range as you tried to do above:) I am using v3.1.2 and have in init.pre "loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash". How

Re: Hashcash

2006-08-29 Thread decoder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Arik Raffael Funke wrote: > Hello, > > how does spamassassin handle hashcash? It is turned on by default, > right? Yes but you still need to define your accept range as you tried to do above:) > > I am using v3.1.2 and have in init.pre "loadplugin

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread decoder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Coffey, Neal wrote: > decoder wrote: > >> Mailing lists dont stamp anything. Read the hashcash FAQ part >> about mailing lists. > > Ok; you're right. Apologies for not reading up on it better. > Reading through the whole FAQ, though, it still leaves m

RE: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread Coffey, Neal
decoder wrote: > Mailing lists dont stamp anything. Read the hashcash FAQ part about > mailing lists. Ok; you're right. Apologies for not reading up on it better. Reading through the whole FAQ, though, it still leaves me with the impression of being far less than ideal. Which is not to say tha

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread decoder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Coffey, Neal wrote: > Dirk Bonengel wrote: >> Kelson schrieb: >>> So they get a bigger botnet. There's no shortage of >>> compromised machines out there. >>> >> Maybe so. But it sure will be more expensive for most spammers to >> rent 10 times as many

RE: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread Coffey, Neal
Dirk Bonengel wrote: > Kelson schrieb: >> So they get a bigger botnet. There's no shortage of compromised >> machines out there. >> > Maybe so. But it sure will be more expensive for most spammers to rent > 10 times as many machines. Only barely so. And at the same time, it will be much more e

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread Dirk Bonengel
Kelson schrieb: decoder wrote: This would slow spammers down by a factor of 10-100 or more per compromised machine (depending on whether the messages sent are sent individually or to many users at once)." So they get a bigger botnet. There's no shortage of compromised machines out there. Ma

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread Kelson
decoder wrote: This would slow spammers down by a factor of 10-100 or more per compromised machine (depending on whether the messages sent are sent individually or to many users at once)." So they get a bigger botnet. There's no shortage of compromised machines out there. -- Kelson Vibber Sp

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread Michel Vaillancourt
decoder wrote: > SpamAssassin supports verification of these hashes (this is enabled by > default, you only need to configure the mail adresses you accept mails > for in the local.cf > (http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Plugin_Hashcash.html) > I read: hashcash_

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread Derek Harding
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 17:22 +0200, decoder wrote: > Well, you can read about the hashcash system at hashcash.org, > basically, it is a per recipient hash generation that assures that a > specific amount of time was required to compute this hash per > recipient. Spammers don't have this time, they s

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread decoder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kelson wrote: > decoder wrote: >> basically, it is a per recipient hash generation that assures that a >> specific amount of time was required to compute this hash per >> recipient. Spammers don't have this time, they send thousands of mails >> per min

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread Kelson
decoder wrote: basically, it is a per recipient hash generation that assures that a specific amount of time was required to compute this hash per recipient. Spammers don't have this time, they send thousands of mails per minute. A great solution... for 2002. These days, when most spam is sent

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread decoder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michel Vaillancourt wrote: > decoder wrote: >> Hello there, >> >> since SpamAssassin supports the hashcash signatures but support >> for MUAs is rare, I wrote a plugin which is able to stamp all >> outgoing emails of a postfix server. If anyone is inte

Re: Hashcash plugin to stamp outgoing mails (for postfix only)

2006-08-16 Thread Michel Vaillancourt
decoder wrote: > Hello there, > > since SpamAssassin supports the hashcash signatures but support for > MUAs is rare, I wrote a plugin which is able to stamp all outgoing > emails of a postfix server. If anyone is interested in testing this > alpha version of the content_filter, please mail me. >

Re: Hashcash is ignored

2005-10-06 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Torsten Bronger writes: > Hallöchen! > > I sent a test mail to myself which included > > X-Hashcash: > 1:26:051006:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]::GydjlgtM9KXnHYAH:000493gL > > in the header (generated by "hashcash"). However, t

Re: Hashcash plugin bugs

2004-12-10 Thread Loren Wilton
This sounds like it is probably worth a bugzilla report. Loren - Original Message - From: "Clarke Brunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:29 AM Subject: Hashcash plugin bugs > Hello > > I'm using SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (and have checked Bugzilla and late