Am 2008-02-13 10:04:36, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:
> you can just provide te directory name. sa-learn will then scan the
> directory w/o args limit
Sory, but I use "--dir" since ages and if I have over 1200-1400 messages
sa-learn exit with an error message that I have exceed the limits...
Th
Am 2008-02-13 05:14:38, schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
> On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 21:34 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Am 2008-02-08 20:13:10, schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
> > > > So what is the maximum number of files in a directory that one can feed
> > > > to
> > > > sa-learn --ham and expect i
> Am 2008-02-08 20:13:10, schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
> > > So what is the maximum number of files in a directory that one can feed
> > > to
> > > sa-learn --ham and expect it to achieve normal speed?
> >
> > Dunno if there are limitations -- however, your 7k messages should be
> > perfectly fi
> Am 2008-02-08 01:49:52, schrieb Gene Heskett:
> > So what is the maximum number of files in a directory that one can feed to
> > sa-learn --ham and expect it to achieve normal speed? I vaguely recall
> > feeding it my corpus of another folder it was having trouble with a year
> > ago,
> > th
On Tuesday 12 February 2008, John Hardin wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Sunday 10 February 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>>> Am 2008-02-08 20:13:10, schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
> So what is the maximum number of files in a directory that one can feed
> to sa-learn -
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 21:34 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-02-08 20:13:10, schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
> > > So what is the maximum number of files in a directory that one can feed
> > > to
> > > sa-learn --ham and expect it to achieve normal speed?
> >
> > Dunno if there are limitati
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 04:04:28PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Guilty, its all in Mail dir format.
--dir ?
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 10 February 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 2008-02-08 20:13:10, schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
So what is the maximum number of files in a directory that one can feed
to sa-learn --ham and expect it to achieve normal speed?
Dunno if there ar
On Sunday 10 February 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>Am 2008-02-08 20:13:10, schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
>> > So what is the maximum number of files in a directory that one can feed
>> > to sa-learn --ham and expect it to achieve normal speed?
>>
>> Dunno if there are limitations -- however, your
Am 2008-02-08 20:13:10, schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
> > So what is the maximum number of files in a directory that one can feed to
> > sa-learn --ham and expect it to achieve normal speed?
>
> Dunno if there are limitations -- however, your 7k messages should be
> perfectly fine. Just ran a test
Am 2008-02-08 01:49:52, schrieb Gene Heskett:
> So what is the maximum number of files in a directory that one can feed to
> sa-learn --ham and expect it to achieve normal speed? I vaguely recall
> feeding it my corpus of another folder it was having trouble with a year ago,
> the linux-usb lis
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 09 February 2008, jdow wrote:
From: "John Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 2008, February 08 21:03
Gene Heskett sez:
running as root since RH5.1. Yeah, I'm an un-repentant old fart.
There's no fool like an old fool.
On Saturday 09 February 2008, jdow wrote:
>From: "John Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, 2008, February 08 21:03
>
>> Gene Heskett sez:
>>> running as root since RH5.1. Yeah, I'm an un-repentant old fart.
>>
>> There's no fool like an old fool.
>
>I'm close enough to Gene's age and have k
From: "John Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 2008, February 08 21:03
Gene Heskett sez:
running as root since RH5.1. Yeah, I'm an un-repentant old fart.
There's no fool like an old fool.
I'm close enough to Gene's age and have known him long enough I get
the right to rap his knuck
On Saturday 09 February 2008, John Hardin wrote:
>Gene Heskett sez:
>> running as root since RH5.1. Yeah, I'm an un-repentant old fart.
>
>There's no fool like an old fool.
And that's why they pay me the big bucks when something really goes aglay at
the tv station even if I have been semi-retire
Gene Heskett sez:
>
> running as root since RH5.1. Yeah, I'm an un-repentant old fart.
There's no fool like an old fool.
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On Friday 08 February 2008, jdow wrote:
>From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, 2008, February 08 16:43
>
>> On Friday 08 February 2008, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
>>>On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 01:49 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
The command that kmail issues to it is:
sa-learn -
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 2008, February 08 16:43
On Friday 08 February 2008, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 01:49 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
The command that kmail issues to it is:
sa-learn --ham /root/Mail/(foldername)/cur
You're not using
On Friday 08 February 2008, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
>On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 01:49 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> The sa-learn --spam can process a message in 5 to 10 seconds or so, so if
>> I've dropped 20 doofus mails in the spam directory and fire it off, I have
>> it done and kmail is back amon
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 01:49 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> The sa-learn --spam can process a message in 5 to 10 seconds or so, so if
> I've
> dropped 20 doofus mails in the spam directory and fire it off, I have it done
> and kmail is back among the living in 2-3 minutes.
This seems *way* too hig
> Starting out with another clean database, further testing
> shows that in fact the message was learned when I ran
> 'spamassassin -r' (though bayes_toks remained at 12288
> bytes), and the same message was learned again when I ran
> 'sa-learn --spam' (and the size once again grew to 24576 bytes)
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:56 PM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Sa-learn --ham vs spamassassin -report
>
> Starting out with another clean database, further testing
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:56 PM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Sa-learn --ham vs spamassassin -report
>
> Starting out with another clean database, further testing
> s
I understand. In the test I had an issue with, the database started out (at
least appears to be) empty, I ran 'spamassassin -r' and the size did not
change, then I ran sa-learn, and it did. Certainly not as good a test as
actually checking the contents of the database:
-rw--- 1 amavis ama
Gary V wrote:
> It did work this time. Even with the spamcop error...
>
> sfa:~# su amavis -c 'sa-learn --dump magic'
> 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version
> 0.000 0 7 0 non-token data: nspam
> [...]
>
> sfa:~# su amavis -c 'spama
Gary V wrote:
> It did work this time. Even with the spamcop error...
>
> sfa:~# su amavis -c 'sa-learn --dump magic'
> 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version
> 0.000 0 7 0 non-token data: nspam
> [...]
>
> sfa:~# su amavis -c 'spamas
Sorry for toppost, but seems right in contect.
Is is possible that if spamassassin -r < spam.eml fails one of the
remote tests (like spamcop, 'too old') that it doesn't go on to any of
the other tests?
is report to spamcop done BEFORE the baysian learning?
Original Message
> On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 10:27:55PM -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote:
> > Sa coach sends stream to spamd with 'TELL' protocol.
> > It then calls the equivalent of 'spamassassin -r' (for spam) or '-z
> > for ham' or -f for forget.
> >
> > Do I need to call sa-learn --ham and sa-learn --spam also?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 12:07 AM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Sa-learn --ham vs spamassassin -report
>
> On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 10:27:55PM -0400, Michael Scheidel
On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 10:27:55PM -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote:
> Sa coach sends stream to spamd with 'TELL' protocol.
> It then calls the equivalent of 'spamassassin -r' (for spam) or '-z for
> ham' or -f for forget.
>
> Do I need to call sa-learn --ham and sa-learn --spam also?
No.
> If I c
At 10:07 AM 10/20/2005, FH wrote:
> Really, you shouldn't be looking at the scores. You should be looking at
> what rules the messages are hitting. Only this can tell you the "why" of
> the matter. Everything else is just looking at the results.
>
Makes sense, I'll dig into that a little deeper t
Thanks for the reply/info
-- Original Message --
Received: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 01:10:06 PM EDT
From: Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: sa-learn ham and auto_whitelist
> >
> > - I know I could a
FH wrote:
> I have a script that goes through and looks for ham mailboxes every 6
> hours[1], I also recently added the below to my local.cf file:
>
> use_auto_whitelist 1
> auto_whitelist_path /etc/mail/spamassassin/auto-whitelist
>
> and primed the auto-whitelist w/
>
> spamassassin --add-add
Am Montag, 14. Februar 2005 23:13 schrieb Daniel Cañas:
> On Feb 14, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Thomas Arend wrote:
> > Am Montag, 14. Februar 2005 20:50 schrieb Daniel Cañas:
> >> I have over 2000 emails that I have as ham and would like to feed to
> >> sa-learn..
> >
[..]
> >> I have legit spam that I wa
On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:54 PM, Jim Maul wrote:
Daniel Cañas wrote:
I have over 2000 emails that I have as ham and would like to feed to
sa-learn..
The emails are all mine (that is they are addresed to me) is this a
problem for sa-learn?
Will it learn the headers and mark my email address as a token
On Feb 14, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Thomas Arend wrote:
Am Montag, 14. Februar 2005 20:50 schrieb Daniel Cañas:
I have over 2000 emails that I have as ham and would like to feed to
sa-learn..
You should train them as ham.
That is my plan
The emails are all mine (that is they are addresed to me) is this a
Am Montag, 14. Februar 2005 20:50 schrieb Daniel Cañas:
> I have over 2000 emails that I have as ham and would like to feed to
> sa-learn..
You should train them as ham.
>
> The emails are all mine (that is they are addresed to me) is this a
> problem for sa-learn?
Where is the problem? If they
Daniel Cañas wrote:
I have over 2000 emails that I have as ham and would like to feed to
sa-learn..
The emails are all mine (that is they are addresed to me) is this a
problem for sa-learn?
Will it learn the headers and mark my email address as a token for
ham... causing bayes to not work corr
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-Original Message-
From: Gray, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 11:45 AM
To: Gustafson, Tim; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: sa-learn ham
We had
I agree, autolearn in conjunction with the odd manual insert works very well
here, although I'm still having troubles blocking the variation of those
ridicoulous drugs/rx msgs.
0.000 01781758 0 non-token data: nspam
0.000 0 319835 0 non-token data: nha
On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 11:26:02AM -0500, Gustafson, Tim wrote:
> I was referring to the fact that the newest "A" time is 20-something
> years in the future. Apparently, this is what is keeping it from
> expiring tokens.
>
>
This is a known problem with bayes in version < 3.0. Upgrade to 3.0.1
hanged, but if you have
a problem you can always drop me a line and I'll see what I can do.
Richard
-Original Message-
From: Gustafson, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 November 2004 16:26
To: Bill Landry; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: sa-learn ham
I was referring
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-Original Message-
From: Bill Landry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 11:09 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: sa-learn ham
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From: "Gustafson, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- Original Message -
From: "Gustafson, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I've attached the output of "sa-learn --force-expire -D" to this e-mail.
>
> Is there any way to "repair" this problem? I'd like to keep the
> database since it's so incredibly effective right now.
All looks fine here, wh
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From: David B Funk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 1:01 AM
To: Gustafson, Tim
Cc: SA Users List
Subject: RE: sa-learn ham
Note that &#x
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Gustafson, Tim wrote:
> How do you keep your ntokens so low?
>
> Mine averages ((nspam + nham) * 10). Yours is basically (nspam + nham).
> Do you run some job that expires tokens or something? I'm running
> sa-learn --force-expire once a day (and it takes about 2-3 minutes t
om: Matt Barton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:27 AM
To: SA Users List
Subject: Re: sa-learn ham
Since we're all playing show-and-tell, here is a dump of the magic on my
company's mail server.
0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db
Users List
Subject: Re: sa-learn ham
Since we're all playing show-and-tell, here is a dump of the magic on my
company's mail server.
0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version
0.000 0 101024 0 non-token data: nspam
0.000 0 16
Gustafson, Tim wrote:
0.000 0 2 0 non-token data: bayes db version
0.000 0 88033 0 non-token data: nspam
0.000 0 15592 0 non-token data: nham
0.000 01729756 0 non-token data: ntokens
0.000 0
Ronan,
I have a cronjob that does the learning for me
#!/bin/sh
sa-learn --spam --mbox /home/fizzle/spam > /dev/null 2>&1
:> /home/fizzle/spam
sa-learn --ham --mbox /home/fizzle/ham > /dev/null 2>&1
:> /home/fizzle/ham
#Root likes to lock the file (owner of cronjob), now reset it.
chown filter.
>>
>> hi all.
>> for those of you running large volume servers you no doubt have an
>> abundance of spam to feed into sa-learn, and i suppose that goes for all
>> sizes of volumes.
>> but one question. how do you manage to match the same number with hams /
>> real messages. how do you go about
> ahh yeah hit reply instead of reply-all.
>
> anyone out there see anything major or minorly wrong with the output
below??
For what it's worth, here's my output:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sa-learn --dump magic
0.000 0 2 0 non-token data: bayes db version
0.000 0
n
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From: Jim Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 10:07 AM
To: Ronan; SA Users List
Subject: R
Jim Maul wrote:
Ronan wrote:
so it doesnt make a difference if you have inordinately larger amounts
of one than the other?? I would have thought it would've worked better
with more ham...
i read somewhere on the list thats its best to balance.
you'll get conflicting answers to this question. T
Ronan wrote:
so it doesnt make a difference if you have inordinately larger amounts
of one than the other?? I would have thought it would've worked better
with more ham...
i read somewhere on the list thats its best to balance.
you'll get conflicting answers to this question. The only real answ
Ronan wrote:
Jim Maul wrote:
Ronan wrote:
hi all.
for those of you running large volume servers you no doubt have an
abundance of spam to feed into sa-learn, and i suppose that goes for
all sizes of volumes.
but one question. how do you manage to match the same number with
hams / real messages.
Jim Maul wrote:
Ronan wrote:
hi all.
for those of you running large volume servers you no doubt have an
abundance of spam to feed into sa-learn, and i suppose that goes for
all sizes of volumes.
but one question. how do you manage to match the same number with hams
/ real messages. how do you g
Ronan wrote:
hi all.
for those of you running large volume servers you no doubt have an
abundance of spam to feed into sa-learn, and i suppose that goes for all
sizes of volumes.
but one question. how do you manage to match the same number with hams /
real messages. how do you go about bumping u
Quoting Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I assume you've got some bayes_path statement in your local.cf forcing SA
> to use that path. Note: if it's set to /root/* I'd suggest changing it to
> /var/amavis/*, unless you want to make root's homedir world-readable.
I do not set bayes_path in loca
At 11:37 PM 10/12/2004 -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote:
I googled for the error but cannot find a proper solution. Right now,
/root/.spamassassin is a symlink to /var/amavis/.spamassassin; the files
therein (i.e. the bayes_* files) are chown'd vscan:vscan. They are
updated when SA *itself* notices s
What is likely happening is that sa-learn is running as root, with
nobody's permissions since apache su's itself to nobody by default on RH
9/FC1 (I am assuming this version of linux from the LC_ALL/LANG issue,
although mac osx is a possibility). When you click the link in horde, it
is executin
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