Autolearn fails a lot of the time because your sendmail and/or
SpamAssassin process doesn't have write access to the bayes_* files.
Make sure that you chown and chmod these files accordingly.  :)

I had a big problem with this originally, and file permissions fixed it
for me.


Tim Gustafson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 10:07 AM
To: Ronan; SA Users List
Subject: Re: sa-learn ham


Ronan wrote:
> so it doesnt make a difference if you have inordinately larger amounts

> of one than the other?? I would have thought it would've worked better

> with more ham...
> i read somewhere on the list thats its best to balance.
> 

you'll get conflicting answers to this question.  The only real answer 
that i can tell is "see what works best on your system"  If you get 
significantly more spam than ham, and autolearning is enabled, then you 
will have signficantly more spam tokens than ham.  Over here at the 
hospital where i work, we get significantly more ham than spam so my 
numbers are usually the opposite from everyone elses.  This goes to show

that even with opposite ratios, the bayes system still works properly. 
This should be argument enough that you dont need to have a balance in 
the number of spam/ham tokens.

> on a related note why is my autolearn not funtioning properly???
> 

good question.  Im not sure what the causes of autolearn=failed are. 
But i did happen to notice that you appear to have ALL_TRUSTED firing on

every email you receive.  There may be larger issues with the setup 
here.  Posting on the list (and not just to me) may provide you will 
more answers as many more people will see the message as well.

-Jim

> bash-2.03$ sa-learn --dump magic
> 0.000          0          3          0  non-token data: bayes db
version
> 0.000          0       1077          0  non-token data: nspam
> 0.000          0        427          0  non-token data: nham
> 0.000          0     120915          0  non-token data: ntokens
> 0.000          0 1082126382          0  non-token data: oldest atime
> 0.000          0 1101307652          0  non-token data: newest atime
> 0.000          0 1101307670          0  non-token data: last journal 
> sync atime
> 0.000          0 1100189181          0  non-token data: last expiry
atime
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last expire 
> atime delta
> 0.000          0          0          0  non-token data: last expire 
> reduction count
> bash-2.03$ tail -f /var/log/syslog|grep autolearn
> Nov 24 14:56:12 elisha spamd[5125]: result: . -1 - ALL_TRUSTED 
>
scantime=2.8,size=1755,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.uk>,autolearn=failed 
> 
> Nov 24 14:56:15 elisha spamd[5125]: result: . -1 - 
> ALL_TRUSTED,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME 
> scantime=0.6,size=1155,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=failed
> Nov 24 14:56:27 elisha spamd[6919]: result: .  0 - 
> ALL_TRUSTED,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,MISSING_SUBJECT,NO_REAL_NAME 
> scantime=2.8,size=1329,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=no
> Nov 24 14:56:29 elisha spamd[7794]: result: . -1 - 
> ALL_TRUSTED,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS 
> scantime=2.5,size=1705,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=failed
> Nov 24 14:56:31 elisha spamd[5467]: result: .  0 - 
>
ALL_TRUSTED,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,J_CHICKENPOX_21,J_CHICKENPOX_24,NO_REAL_NA
ME 
> scantime=5.2,size=4798,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=failed
> Nov 24 14:56:32 elisha spamd[6919]: result: . -1 - 
> ALL_TRUSTED,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME 
> scantime=2.5,size=2668,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=failed
> Nov 24 14:56:34 elisha spamd[7794]: result: . -1 - ALL_TRUSTED 
>
scantime=0.6,size=32341,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
d.am.qub.ac.uk>,autolearn=failed 
> 
> Nov 24 14:56:35 elisha spamd[5467]: result: .  2 - 
>
FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,MISSING_MIMEOLE,NO_REAL_NAME,PRIOR
ITY_NO_NAME,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 
>
scantime=0.6,size=78030,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolearn=
no
> Nov 24 14:56:36 elisha spamd[8365]: result: . -1 - 
> ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY 
>
scantime=8.5,size=12218,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
c.uk>,autolearn=failed 
> 
> Nov 24 14:56:38 elisha spamd[6919]: result: . -1 - ALL_TRUSTED 
>
scantime=1.1,size=14404,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
autolearn=failed 
> 
> Nov 24 14:56:38 elisha spamd[5467]: result: . -1 - 
> ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE 
>
scantime=1.6,size=2221,mid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,autolea
rn=failed 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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