Re: user-db size, content confusions (how many toks?)

2009-03-29 Thread Matt Kettler
Linda Walsh wrote: > > I see 3 DB's in my user directory (.spamassassin). > > auto-whitelist(~80MB) > bayes_seen(~40MB) > bayes_toks(~20MB) > > Was trying to find relation of 'bayes_expiry_max_db_size' to the physical > size of the above files. expiry will only affect bayes_toks. Curren

Re: Windows Live Spam

2009-03-29 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, jcput...@mail.centreweb.co.za wrote: Hi i am getting spam from windows live accounts, spamassassin shows no hits something it comes from live spaces, i have a rule to stop that but other pass.. please help Search the SA list archive for "uri spaces live com". There have

Re: Windows Live Spam

2009-03-29 Thread LuKreme
On 24-Mar-2009, at 18:47, jcput...@mail.centreweb.co.za wrote: Hi i am getting spam from windows live accounts, spamassassin shows no hits We just discussed this and someone posted: #spaces.live.com spam uri URI_LIVEDOTCOM /\bspaces\.live\.com\b/i scoreURI_LIVEDOTCOM # describe URI_L

Re: your mail

2009-03-29 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, jcput...@mail.centreweb.co.za wrote: Can spamassassin miss hits or rules if it is running on a slow machine? No, but a message may skip SA if SA is overloaded due to running on a slow machine. You need to take into account your email volume. The most important thing to

Re: google group spam

2009-03-29 Thread LuKreme
On 29-Mar-2009, at 16:42, JC Putter wrote: uri __GOOGLEGROUPS_15 m'http://[^.]{15}\.googlegroups\.com'i meta NN_GOOGLEGROUPS_15 __GOOGLEGROUPS_15 && __GOOGLEGROUPS_NUM describe NN_GOOGLEGROUPS_15 Contains a suspicious googlegroups URI. scoreNN_GOOGLEGROUPS_15 2 but now i am gettin

user-db size, content confusions (how many toks?)

2009-03-29 Thread Linda Walsh
I see 3 DB's in my user directory (.spamassassin). auto-whitelist (~80MB) bayes_seen (~40MB) bayes_toks (~20MB) Was trying to find relation of 'bayes_expiry_max_db_size' to the physical size of the above files. I'm finding some answers, I've run into some seeming "contradictions".

Re: Windows Live Spam

2009-03-29 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, jcput...@mail.centreweb.co.za wrote: > Hi i am getting spam from windows live accounts, spamassassin shows no hits > > something it comes from live spaces, i have a rule to stop that but other > pass.. please help Sorry, the crystal ball is out of order. Would you be so ki

google group spam

2009-03-29 Thread JC Putter
egroups URI. scoreNN_GOOGLEGROUPS_15 2 but now i am getting a new type of one which the rules doesnt catch "http://groups.google.com/group/ can someone please help me write a rule for this link? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3973 (20090329)

Re: sa-update when was last run?

2009-03-29 Thread Justin Mason
oops. Sorry for the multiple mails, folks -- my list moderation mistake. --j. On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 01:31, Dennis German wrote: > I believe this is another cPanel issue. > Attempting to run sa-update displays: >    mkdir /etc/mail: Permission denied at /usr/bin/sa-update line 1226 > How can I

Re: New kind of spam

2009-03-29 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
http://codepad.org/W53onqK9 i gave on this kind of spam. its impossible to train bayes and changing to fast to make custom rules. matching senders doesnt work either becouse those are sent using live.com, gmail, sourceforge, etc

Re: New kind of spam

2009-03-29 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
Jack Raats wrote: Today I received two messages with a kinds of new(?) spam. The messages, html ones, contained the word viagra made by colouring cells in a table. The message also contained a link to a blog (live.com). The rest of the message contained a text to mislead the bayes filtering.

RE: lookup user_prefs in SQL database (not using spamc)

2009-03-29 Thread Guido Leisker
> Have you restarted amavisd-new since you added the @lookup_sql_dsn? Yes, I did. What I tried for example is to add a score -111 to GTUBE manually in the local.cf. That does work. I think that makes sure that amavis(using SA) uses the latest local.cf, right? > > > > BTW: spamassassin should not

Windows Live Spam

2009-03-29 Thread jcputter
Hi i am getting spam from windows live accounts, spamassassin shows no hits something it comes from live spaces, i have a rule to stop that but other pass.. please help

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2009-03-29 Thread jcputter
Can spamassassin miss hits or rules if it is running on a slow machine?

sa-update when was last run?

2009-03-29 Thread Dennis German
I believe this is another cPanel issue. Attempting to run sa-update displays: mkdir /etc/mail: Permission denied at /usr/bin/sa-update line 1226 How can I determine that last time sa-update was run?

SA: Determining last sa-update

2009-03-29 Thread Dennis German
I believe this is another cPanel issue. Attempting to run sa-update displays: mkdir /etc/mail: Permission denied at /usr/bin/sa-update line 1226 How can I determine that last time sa-update was run?

SA: Determining last sa-update

2009-03-29 Thread Dennis German
I believe this is another cPanel issue. Attempting to run sa-update displays: mkdir /etc/mail: Permission denied at /usr/bin/sa-update line 1226 How can I determine that last time sa-update was run?

spamassassin: Determining last sa-update

2009-03-29 Thread Dennis German
I believe this is another cPanel issue. Attempting to run sa-update displays: mkdir /etc/mail: Permission denied at /usr/bin/sa-update line 1226 How can I determine that last time sa-update was run?

Re: How long does it take to install SA?

2009-03-29 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
Single-user, vanilla install with two exceptions: the install will check our two whitelists and give a pass (-100) to any of our clients so we don't bounce their mail. I hope you're not actually considering bouncing spam. That statement sounds like it. Either jecect them at smtp time or sile

Re: Still getting spam from yahoo/google groups

2009-03-29 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
Where can i past the raw header? pastebin triggers it as spam there is more then one pastebin. just like there is more then one OS. try: http://rafb.net/paste/ http://codepad.org/ http://paste.nn-d.de/ http://www.copypaste.at/ http://paste.uni.cc/ etc etc __ Information from ESET

sa-update: determining last run

2009-03-29 Thread Dennis G German
> sa-update mkdir /etc/mail: Permission denied at /usr/bin/sa-update line 1226 There is no /etc/mail directory available. (I believe the /etc directory I can view is artifical) I cannot make a mail directory. I suspect this is another cPanel (shared host) problem. Is there a way I can d

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread Evan Platt
At 01:22 PM 3/29/2009, you wrote: dude, shut up and mind your own business. (and i mean that in the most constructive manner) You come to a list asking for help, you make whatever you state your own business. But with your attitude you aren't going to get anymore help from me. you dont kno

RE: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific emaillist situation)

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> > Oh, come on, Robert -- I didn't say your way is abusive, just > overkill. > > The most part of this discussion isn't specific to you, nor > SA. It's a well-known, general problem when running update > services. It isn't meant to be a decree either, it's partly > my opinion, partly best-p

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread mouss
Evan Platt a écrit : > At 08:19 AM 3/29/2009, you wrote: > >> Evan, >> >> naw, hourly is just fine. >> >> we update "sought ruleset" at the same time. >> >> i spose i could change it, yet spam is not a once a day thing. >> >> spam is all day every day, so hourly is the least i want to see things >

RE: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 13:05 -0700, RobertH wrote: > > From: Karsten Bräckelmann > > The real impact isn't the DNS query, but whenever an update > > has been pushed. If everyone would check once an hour, the > > full load would have to be shouldered in 60 minutes, as > > opposed to evenly distri

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> > Checking once an hour is obscene. > > Evan, dude, shut up and mind your own business. (and i mean that in the most constructive manner) you dont know me, you do not admin this business, and we are not stupid and have been doing this for longer than many on this list have been alive. i

Re: update overkill

2009-03-29 Thread mouss
Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 20:44 +0200, mouss wrote: >> Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > >>> It's the same classic problem with uninspired admins, running such cron >>> jobs strictly at a full hour. >> In most cases, it's not the admins fault. many systems allow adding cr

RE: update overkill

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> Mouss wrote: > In most cases, it's not the admins fault. many systems allow > adding cron jobs by simply putting a file in a > /some/path/hourly and so on instead of editing /etc/crontab > (or running the crontab command). This is nice (exceptionally > for packages when editing files is p

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread Evan Platt
At 08:19 AM 3/29/2009, you wrote: Evan, naw, hourly is just fine. we update "sought ruleset" at the same time. i spose i could change it, yet spam is not a once a day thing. spam is all day every day, so hourly is the least i want to see things updated. But you're not seeing things updated

RE: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> From: Karsten Bräckelmann > Heh, true. And he could run sa-update even more frequently. > After all, the DNS answer is cached for an hour... ;) > > The real impact isn't the DNS query, but whenever an update > has been pushed. If everyone would check once an hour, the > full load would hav

Re: update overkill

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 20:44 +0200, mouss wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > > It's the same classic problem with uninspired admins, running such cron > > jobs strictly at a full hour. > > In most cases, it's not the admins fault. many systems allow adding cron > jobs by simply putting a fil

Re: update overkill

2009-03-29 Thread mouss
Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 18:14 +0100, Justin Mason wrote: >> on the other hand, the sa-update architecture can cope with it just fine. ;) > > Heh, true. And he could run sa-update even more frequently. After all, > the DNS answer is cached for an hour... ;) > > The re

Re: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 18:14 +0100, Justin Mason wrote: > on the other hand, the sa-update architecture can cope with it just fine. ;) Heh, true. And he could run sa-update even more frequently. After all, the DNS answer is cached for an hour... ;) The real impact isn't the DNS query, but whenever

Re: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Justin Mason
on the other hand, the sa-update architecture can cope with it just fine. ;) 2009/3/29 Karsten Bräckelmann : >> > Isn't that a tad overkill? > > It is. :) > >> > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates >> > >> > How often should I run sa-update? >> > >> > As often as you like. It typically

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 09:20 -0700, RobertH wrote: > > > > Indeed. Either Robert is running some really old SA version, > > or updating is plain broken on his machine. > > > > Well, or he deliberately put those rules back in locally... The latter -- according to the other sub-thread all these ru

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> > Indeed. Either Robert is running some really old SA version, > or updating is plain broken on his machine. > > Well, or he deliberately put those rules back in locally... i believe i have checked all the rules. we run 3.2.5 most of the rules were addons. here is [r...@ac updates_spamas

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> > Nope, you don't. You got a problem with your custom rules. > > > > here is what it is tripping on... > > > > 0.7 FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D Host starts with d-d-d-d > > 1.2 HOST_EQ_STATIC HOST_EQ_STATIC > > 0.7 FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DBHost is d-d-d-d > > 1.3 HOST_EQ_CHARTER

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 23:27 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > when did you sa-update for last time? afaik FH_HOST_EQ_* > > > rules were removed some time ago. Not that current rules > > > don't have some issues... > > > > > > And, of course, you have some rules unknown to me and clean

update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
> > Isn't that a tad overkill? It is. :) > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates > > > > How often should I run sa-update? > > > > As often as you like. It typically depends on what time-frame > > is comfortable for you, and how quickly channels are going to > > be publishing upda

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> From: Evan Platt > > Isn't that a tad overkill? > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates > > How often should I run sa-update? > > As often as you like. It typically depends on what time-frame > is comfortable for you, and how quickly channels are going to > be publishing upda

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> From: LuKreme > > Why re you running SA over known list messages? > LuKreme, u good question. we do it cause i havent decided to want, develope & implement, and to use a way to filter out things i dont want to run through SA on inbound SMTP port 25. it is easier for me to know every

Re: Release information in email geader and source

2009-03-29 Thread mouss
Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 17:20 -0700, jdpnh wrote: >> For a long time I have been reviewing the header/source of spam that I >> received in my inbox. The version/release of SpamAssassin was old - at >> least 10 releases. I pointed this out to the customer service peop

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread LuKreme
On 28-Mar-2009, at 17:52, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 17:28 -0600, LuKreme wrote: On 28-Mar-2009, at 15:32, RobertH wrote: i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. Why re you running SA over known list messages? I'm a member of four lists that are not moderated and