> 
> Oh, come on, Robert -- I didn't say your way is abusive, just 
> overkill.
> 
> The most part of this discussion isn't specific to you, nor 
> SA. It's a well-known, general problem when running update 
> services. It isn't meant to be a decree either, it's partly 
> my opinion, partly best-practices.
> 
> You shouldn't take it personally.
> 
> 

not taking it personally.  :-)      everyone please read. maybe you can shed
light on what i am experiencing that is detailed towards the bottom.

....

I really believe the wiki should be modified and have more info in regards
to making decisions. like not less than such and such hours and typically
not more than such and such day.

ALSO :-) 

i was *genuinely* thanking you for humbling my day.

short long story.

what i have been going througg is, many people like us that work in telecom,
networks, computers, etc... well we all think we know how to setup things
just so, and it has to be *perfect* and well, i know i dont know it all.

YET, communicating that is hard to people that are *not* in our respective
fields.

fortunately, i have been having a really hard time explaining things to lay
people lately and it is just **kicking** my rear.

you know, kinda like if you have to do tech support and are responsible for
millions of people and say they are all family you know and love dearly.

i wont bring the associated Bible items into it on list, yet sincerely, i
appreciate a respectful humbling.

again, thank you all for helping me!

yes, even you Evan. (apologies)

  :-)

 - rh

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