Re: permissions on /root/.spamassassin folder

2008-10-14 Thread mouss
Matt Kettler a écrit : > Kate Kleinschafer wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Just wondering what the permissions should be on the >> /root/.spamassassin folder. >> >> When I run a message by the command >> sudo -u postfix spamassassin -p >> /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf -t < message.MAI >> >> I a

Re: permissions on /root/.spamassassin folder

2008-10-14 Thread Kate Kleinschafer
Matt Kettler wrote: Kate Kleinschafer wrote: Hi all, Just wondering what the permissions should be on the /root/.spamassassin folder. When I run a message by the command sudo -u postfix spamassassin -p /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf -t < message.MAI I am getting the error warn:

Re: overly harsh against Message only has text/html MIME parts

2008-10-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 09:32:42PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > >> Agreed. However, there are times where it's not worth fixing a FP case >> because its a rare case caused by a small-scale broken tool that >> violates the specs. >> > > FWIW, this case is specificall

Re: overly harsh against Message only has text/html MIME parts

2008-10-14 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 09:32:42PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > Agreed. However, there are times where it's not worth fixing a FP case > because its a rare case caused by a small-scale broken tool that > violates the specs. FWIW, this case is specifically looked for by the rule. > Of course, I la

Re: overly harsh against Message only has text/html MIME parts

2008-10-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Joseph Brennan wrote: > > >> Yes, it should have. If a multipart/alternate mail only has a text/html >> part, it should be a text/html mail. > > > No. The standard allows multipart/alternative to contain only > one part. See the comment in RFC 2046 5.1.1 : > > NOTE: Experience has shown that a

Re: overly harsh against Message only has text/html MIME parts

2008-10-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Greg Troxel wrote: > Theo Van Dinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:55:27PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: >> 2.5 MPART_ALT_DIFF BODY: HTML and text parts are different well of course, because >>> This rule seems like it should not

Re: overly harsh against Message only has text/html MIME parts

2008-10-14 Thread Joseph Brennan
Yes, it should have. If a multipart/alternate mail only has a text/html part, it should be a text/html mail. No. The standard allows multipart/alternative to contain only one part. See the comment in RFC 2046 5.1.1 : NOTE: Experience has shown that a "multipart" media type with a singl

Re: permissions on /root/.spamassassin folder

2008-10-14 Thread SM
At 17:32 14-10-2008, Kate Kleinschafer wrote: Just wondering what the permissions should be on the /root/.spamassassin folder. When I run a message by the command sudo -u postfix spamassassin -p /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf -t < message.MAI I am getting the error warn: config: p

RE: permissions on /root/.spamassassin folder

2008-10-14 Thread Michael Hutchinson
> -Original Message- > From: Kate Kleinschafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 October 2008 1:32 p.m. > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: permissions on /root/.spamassassin folder > > Hi all, > > Just wondering what the permissions should be on the /root/.spamassassin > f

Re: permissions on /root/.spamassassin folder

2008-10-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Kate Kleinschafer wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wondering what the permissions should be on the > /root/.spamassassin folder. > > When I run a message by the command > sudo -u postfix spamassassin -p > /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf -t < message.MAI > > I am getting the error warn: config: p

permissions on /root/.spamassassin folder

2008-10-14 Thread Kate Kleinschafer
Hi all, Just wondering what the permissions should be on the /root/.spamassassin folder. When I run a message by the command sudo -u postfix spamassassin -p /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf -t < message.MAI I am getting the error warn: config: path /root/.spamassassin is inaccessi

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Mark Martinec schreef: First, UML is a virtual machine infrastructure. See http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/ Now you are talking! See: http://fixunix.com/openssl/518688-re-uml-devel-dev-random-problems-fp-regis ters-corruption.html Seems like it was fixed in February 2008: UML - Fix

Re: overly harsh against Message only has text/html MIME parts

2008-10-14 Thread Greg Troxel
Theo Van Dinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:55:27PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: >> > 2.5 MPART_ALT_DIFF BODY: HTML and text parts are different >> > well of course, because >> >> This rule seems like it should not have fired. > > Yes, it should have. If a mul

Re: overly harsh against Message only has text/html MIME parts

2008-10-14 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:55:27PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > > 2.5 MPART_ALT_DIFF BODY: HTML and text parts are different > > well of course, because > > This rule seems like it should not have fired. Yes, it should have. If a multipart/alternate mail only has a text/html part, it sho

Re: overly harsh against Message only has text/html MIME parts

2008-10-14 Thread Greg Troxel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Gentlemen, it seems spamassassin used full military justice here: > > 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0 points, so it's just noting. > 2.5 MPART_ALT_DIFF BODY: HTML and text parts are different > well of course, because This rule

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread mouss
Randy a écrit : > mouss wrote: >> Ned Slider a écrit : >> >>> Randy wrote: >>> Ken A wrote: > Randy wrote: > > Are you sure it's not spam bounces (joe job)? > This is more common than a spam attack > Ken > > Yeah we get those in spurts

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, October 14, 2008 21:16, Ned Slider wrote: > least then you could save a bunch of hits against Spamhaus and reject > the mail as early as possible in the smtp process. in main.cf smtpd_client_restriction = reject_unlisted_recipient reject_rbl_client ... -- Benny Pedersen Need more we

RE: is Pyzor worth it?

2008-10-14 Thread Michael Hutchinson
Hello William, This is a very good question. I had to ask that of myself just 2 weeks ago. Pyzor is great, it marks up Spam really well. I'm not going to report statistics, but it is *very* effective in reducing levels of Spam. However, as our site is quite busy, the amount of Pyzor hash lookups

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Randy
mouss wrote: Ned Slider a écrit : Randy wrote: Ken A wrote: Randy wrote: Are you sure it's not spam bounces (joe job)? This is more common than a spam attack Ken Yeah we get those in spurts, but this appears to not be the case. We are getting thousands of connects fr

overly harsh against Message only has text/html MIME parts

2008-10-14 Thread jidanni
Gentlemen, it seems spamassassin used full military justice here: 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 2.5 MPART_ALT_DIFF BODY: HTML and text parts are different well of course, because 2.3 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts OK, then

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Randy wrote: John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Randy wrote: > It appears to be a spambot ( botnet ) , and it really isn't enough > traffic to cause DDOS so I really should change the topic header. The > traffic may be 4 - 10 emails per day for this emai

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Randy
John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Randy wrote: It appears to be a spambot ( botnet ) , and it really isn't enough traffic to cause DDOS so I really should change the topic header. The traffic may be 4 - 10 emails per day for this email address. To a _single_ invalid address? If

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread mouss
Ned Slider a écrit : > Randy wrote: >> Ken A wrote: >>> Randy wrote: >>> >>> Are you sure it's not spam bounces (joe job)? >>> This is more common than a spam attack >>> Ken >>> >> Yeah we get those in spurts, but this appears to not be the case. We >> are getting thousands of connects from non MX

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Randy wrote: It appears to be a spambot ( botnet ) , and it really isn't enough traffic to cause DDOS so I really should change the topic header. The traffic may be 4 - 10 emails per day for this email address. To a _single_ invalid address? If it were me I'd acce

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: so, change it to (+) 0.001. how likely is it to change ham to spam? the same chance, I'd say, for cases someone uses e.g. DKIM... That's why I search for different solution... Well, this was not the first time I'd like to clear effect of a r

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Ned Slider
Randy wrote: Ken A wrote: Randy wrote: Are you sure it's not spam bounces (joe job)? This is more common than a spam attack Ken Yeah we get those in spurts, but this appears to not be the case. We are getting thousands of connects from non MX hosts and many are blocked at the smtp layer by o

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Randy
Ken A wrote: Randy wrote: Martin Gregorie wrote: Why would a botnet waste resources by sending tens of thousands of spam to a single e-mail address? Is it really a spambot or could it be a DDOS attack? Martin It is both but not actually. :) It appears to be a spambot ( botnet

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Rob McEwen
Randy wrote: > We are being spammed by a botnet to a single email address which makes > it difficult to block. Spamhaus catches about 1/2 of them, but the > rest are blocked via postfix becuase this is an old account and does > not have a mailbox. Are you sure this isn't backscatter where the botn

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Ken A
Randy wrote: Martin Gregorie wrote: Why would a botnet waste resources by sending tens of thousands of spam to a single e-mail address? Is it really a spambot or could it be a DDOS attack? Martin It is both but not actually. :) It appears to be a spambot ( botnet ) , and it rea

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Randy
Martin Gregorie wrote: Why would a botnet waste resources by sending tens of thousands of spam to a single e-mail address? Is it really a spambot or could it be a DDOS attack? Martin It is both but not actually. :) It appears to be a spambot ( botnet ) , and it really isn't enou

Re: botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Gregorie
> Why would a botnet waste resources by sending tens of thousands of spam > to a single e-mail address? > Is it really a spambot or could it be a DDOS attack? Martin

botnet dos

2008-10-14 Thread Randy
Hi, We are being spammed by a botnet to a single email address which makes it difficult to block. Spamhaus catches about 1/2 of them, but the rest are blocked via postfix becuase this is an old account and does not have a mailbox. Why would a botnet waste resources by sending tens of thousan

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:24:35AM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 18:17 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On 14.10.08 11:05, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:55 +0100, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:31 +0200, Matus U

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Mark Martinec
> > First, UML is a virtual machine infrastructure. > > See http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/ > > Now you are talking! > > See: > http://fixunix.com/openssl/518688-re-uml-devel-dev-random-problems-fp-regis >ters-corruption.html Seems like it was fixed in February 2008: UML - Fix FP regist

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Mark Martinec
Benedict, > > Please don't delete your AWL. I'll provide a patch which will reset a > > bad entry when it encounters one, so your db will be a good testground. > > I already deleted it but i had a backup so the original is already > restored. The updated patch is now attached to https://issues.

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 18:17 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 14.10.08 11:05, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:55 +0100, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:31 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > > > > > > On 14.10.08 16:20, Martin Gregorie wr

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 14.10.08 11:05, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:55 +0100, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:31 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > > > > On 14.10.08 16:20, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > > > Why not change its name to __SPF_PASS and only use it in meta-r

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:55 +0100, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:31 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > > On 14.10.08 16:20, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > > Why not change its name to __SPF_PASS and only use it in meta-rules? > > > > because that's SA rule, even if I chan

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:31 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:36 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > On 14.10.08 07:12, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 08:55 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, October 13, 2008 16:39

Re[2]: is Pyzor worth it?

2008-10-14 Thread Peter Nitschke
I just added Pyzor to a server for the last 24 hours out of curiousity. All the spam it hit, was already well tagged as spam, eg scores in the 20+ range, but it also hit a few hams which fortunately had enough good points to not go above the threshold. This may well be a reflection on the effect

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Mark Martinec
Benedict, > spamd[1321]: plugin: eval failed: > Sort subroutine didn't return a numeric value > at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/AsyncLoop.pm line 278. Again a NaN out of nowhere, this time in timing data. > First, UML is a virtual machine infrastructure. > See http://user-mode-linux.source

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:36 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On 14.10.08 07:12, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 08:55 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > > > On Mon, October 13, 2008 16:39, Henrik K wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> meta SPF_PASS (SPF_PASS && !BAY

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:36 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 14.10.08 07:12, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 08:55 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > > On Mon, October 13, 2008 16:39, Henrik K wrote: > > > > > > > > >> meta SPF_PASS (SPF_PASS && !BAYES_99) > > >

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Mark Martinec wrote: > Benedict, > >> This again suggests that something is broken with my AWL. I think i'd >> better delete it. >> As it seems now, the only thing strange left is the AWL & related NaN. >> > > Please don't delete your AWL. I'll provide a patch which will reset a > bad entry

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Mark Martinec
Benedict, > This again suggests that something is broken with my AWL. I think i'd > better delete it. > As it seems now, the only thing strange left is the AWL & related NaN. Please don't delete your AWL. I'll provide a patch which will reset a bad entry when it encounters one, so your db will b

RE: URIBL_BLACK

2008-10-14 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 2008-10-13 05:28 > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: URIBL_BLACK > > > On Friday, October 10, 2008, 11:29:33 PM, Yet Ninja wrote: > > > Something tells me your stats are either obsolete, biased, bor

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:19 +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 10:04 +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > > >> i have tested with another spam message that has a combined score of > >> 22.5 and it's not flagged as spam. > >> The full debug log

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 14.10.08 07:12, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 08:55 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > On Mon, October 13, 2008 16:39, Henrik K wrote: > > > > > > >> meta SPF_PASS (SPF_PASS && !BAYES_99) > > > > Obviously you can't redefine SPF_PASS on the fly. > > > > On 13.10.08 2

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 10:04 +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > >> i have tested with another spam message that has a combined score of >> 22.5 and it's not flagged as spam. >> The full debug log is here: >> http://www.heimdallit.be/download/spam_debug_1.txt >>

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:00 +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > This might be relevant WRT to bug 3364 [2], it definitely matches the > > summary. Can you still reproduce these NaN scores, if you comment out > > the above options? > As for reproducing, see last part o

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 10:04 +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > i have tested with another spam message that has a combined score of > 22.5 and it's not flagged as spam. > The full debug log is here: > http://www.heimdallit.be/download/spam_debug_1.txt Hmm, does that say that a bunch of major R

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: >> as i said, to my knowledge, i'm not using any custom headers and i >> asked how i could know for sure as it's not clear to me how to check > > Ah, sorry, kind of forgot about that. Well, posting your cf files is one > option. ;) Another one is to read the configurat

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:03 +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann schreef: > > Benedict, since I asked about custom headers before, it might be a good > > idea to carefully check the config and answer my previous question. > > Since you're not using custom rules, but change scores,

Re: conditionally zero score of a rule

2008-10-14 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 08:55 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On Mon, October 13, 2008 16:39, Henrik K wrote: > > > > >> meta SPF_PASS (SPF_PASS && !BAYES_99) > > > Obviously you can't redefine SPF_PASS on the fly. > > On 13.10.08 21:08, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > olso that SPF_PASS was ne

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Mark Martinec schreef: Benedict, Thing is, what is causing the nan? My guess is that a NaN somehow got into your AWL database. I have reopened bug 3364, and attached a richer patch: "Deal with NaN in AutoWhitelist and PerMsgStatus" which includes my previous patch and also instrume

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Benedict Verheyen wrote: Some more interesting stuff from /var/log/syslog: Oct 14 09:15:08 loki spamd[1274]: auto-whitelist: attempt to add a nan to AWL entry ignored 177 Oct 14 09:15:08 loki spamd[1274]: !! rules: score 'nan' for rule 'AWL' in 'AWL: ' 'From: address is in the auto white-lis

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Mark Martinec wrote: > Guenther, Benedict, > >>> My guess is that a NaN somehow got into your AWL database. >> Things are much more complicated, or rather weird, than that. >> >> According to Benedict's reports and pasted snippets, he got an NaN score >> for at least 3 rules: FROM_ILLEGAL_CHARS, A

Re: is Pyzor worth it?

2008-10-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 13.10.08 08:25, William Taylor wrote: > Is Pyzor worth running these days? > Is it still effective? > Can anyone using it comment on it? works for me, however there are still some error messages. And it has FPs for some mailing lists monthly notices (and I have to register to be able to list/de

Re: spam score not counted correctly

2008-10-14 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Karsten Bräckelmann schreef: > Benedict, since I asked about custom headers before, it might be a good > idea to carefully check the config and answer my previous question. > Since you're not using custom rules, but change scores, you likely > copied (read: inherited) that part from your previous c