RE: Installation on SpamAssassin

2008-02-21 Thread jeco
ok, thanks for the reply Mike, I'll try to explore the link you've given and learn first the basics. Sorry, because I'm just a newbie with this Anti Spam and would like to know more about it. Thanks and good day Michael Hutchinson-3 wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: jeco [mailt

Re: Bogus MX -> blacklist service viable?

2008-02-21 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Steve Radich wrote: > > Sorry; apparently I was unclear. > > > > MX records I'm saying as follows: > > 100 - Real > > 200 - Real perhaps, as many "real" as you want > > 300 - Bogus - one that blo

Re: Bogus MX -> blacklist service viable?

2008-02-21 Thread Marc Perkel
Steve Radich wrote: Sorry; apparently I was unclear. MX records I'm saying as follows: 100 - Real 200 - Real perhaps, as many "real" as you want 300 - Bogus - one that blocks port 25 with tcp reset for example 400 - accept port, logs ip -> blacklist (not to be s

RE: Bogus MX -> blacklist service viable?

2008-02-21 Thread Steve Radich
Sorry; apparently I was unclear. MX records I'm saying as follows: 100 - Real 200 - Real perhaps, as many "real" as you want 300 - Bogus - one that blocks port 25 with tcp reset for example 400 - accept port, logs ip -> blacklist (not to be scored aggressively at al

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Michael Scheidell
I guess just customers who want a fall back in case postini goes down. host -t mx hormel.com hormel.com mail is handled by 100 hormel.com.mail5.psmtp.com. hormel.com mail is handled by 200 hormel.com.mail6.psmtp.com. hormel.com mail is handled by 300 hormel.com.mail7.psmtp.com. hormel.com mail is

Re: Bogus MX -> blacklist service viable?

2008-02-21 Thread mouss
McDonald, Dan wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 21:58 +0100, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: Hi! provide this hosted (i.e. I'm thinking of offering), but instead of ONLY log it somehow feed / create a blacklist based on this? I'm not as familiar with blacklists as many of you, but the network /

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread mouss
Marc Perkel wrote: David B Funk wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: Quotes from this thread (and the nolisting site which was posted as a response): Michael Scheidell -> "Do NOT use a bogus mx as your lowest priority." Bowie Bailey -> "I would say that it is too risky to put

Re: Time to make multi.uribl.org optional rather than default?

2008-02-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Nigel Frankcom wrote: > Some stick a donate option on their sites, which I suspect is rarely > used. Others don't even do that. I'm betting that URIBL is closing in on enough donations (via the PayPal button) to buy 128MB of SDRAM soon! I know they were getting close. :) > I must admit to being

Re: Bogus MX -> blacklist service viable?

2008-02-21 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! defermx..com bogusmx..com provide this hosted (i.e. I'm thinking of offering), but instead of ONLY log it somehow feed / create a blacklist based on this? I'm not as familiar with blacklists as many of you, but the network / smtp / logging side of this is easy for me to implement. I'm thi

RE: Installation on SpamAssassin

2008-02-21 Thread Michael Hutchinson
> -Original Message- > From: jeco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2008 1:55 a.m. > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Installation on SpamAssassin > > > Hi to all members here, I'm a new member and would like to ask help on how > to > install SpamAssassin?

Re: Bogus MX -> blacklist service viable?

2008-02-21 Thread Marc Perkel
Steve Radich wrote: What's everyone's opinion on something like: defermx..com bogusmx..com provide this hosted (i.e. I'm thinking of offering), but instead of ONLY log it somehow feed / create a blacklist based on this? I'm not as familiar with blacklists as many of you, but the network / sm

Re: Bogus MX -> blacklist service viable?

2008-02-21 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 21:58 +0100, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: > Hi! > > > provide this hosted (i.e. I'm thinking of offering), but instead of ONLY > > log it somehow feed / create a blacklist based on this? > > > > I'm not as familiar with blacklists as many of you, but the network / > > smtp / lo

Re: Bogus MX -> blacklist service viable?

2008-02-21 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! provide this hosted (i.e. I'm thinking of offering), but instead of ONLY log it somehow feed / create a blacklist based on this? I'm not as familiar with blacklists as many of you, but the network / smtp / logging side of this is easy for me to implement. I'm thinking make this a very publ

Bogus MX -> blacklist service viable?

2008-02-21 Thread Steve Radich
What's everyone's opinion on something like: defermx..com bogusmx..com provide this hosted (i.e. I'm thinking of offering), but instead of ONLY log it somehow feed / create a blacklist based on this? I'm not as familiar with blacklists as many of you, but the network / smtp / logging side of thi

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Marc Perkel
Mark Johnson wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I'm using Exim and I have it listening on several IP addresses. If you aren't using Exim then you'll have to get someone to help you. defercondition = ${if match{$interface_address}{69.50.231.160}} You could just point it to a dead IP address whi

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Johnson
Marc Perkel wrote: I'm using Exim and I have it listening on several IP addresses. If you aren't using Exim then you'll have to get someone to help you. defercondition = ${if match{$interface_address}{69.50.231.160}} You could just point it to a dead IP address which is the simple way to

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Marc Perkel
Mark Johnson wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Because there is occasionally some server doing something very weird you might have to open up port 25 one some specific IP who is running something really dumb. I think I've had to do this only once or twice. But once you open up port 25 to the prob

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Johnson
Marc Perkel wrote: Because there is occasionally some server doing something very weird you might have to open up port 25 one some specific IP who is running something really dumb. I think I've had to do this only once or twice. But once you open up port 25 to the problem user you solved the

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Marc Perkel
David B Funk wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: Quotes from this thread (and the nolisting site which was posted as a response): Michael Scheidell -> "Do NOT use a bogus mx as your lowest priority." Bowie Bailey -> "I would say that it is too risky to put a non-smtp host as

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Aaron Wolfe wrote: > Quotes from this thread (and the nolisting site which was posted as a > response): > > Michael Scheidell -> "Do NOT use a bogus mx as your lowest priority." > Bowie Bailey -> "I would say that it is too risky to put a non-smtp > host as your primary > M

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Frovarp
Marc Perkel wrote: Richard Frovarp wrote: We issue tcp-reset via iptables and have never heard of any problems. Doing this also makes connecting servers fail out quickest, instead of waiting to timeout. Interesting. How do you do that? -A ports_deny -d de.st.i.p -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25

Re: autolearn vs sa-learn / Bayes

2008-02-21 Thread Diego Pomatta
Luis Hernán Otegui escribió: Hola, Diego 2008/2/21, Diego Pomatta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello list. Does the bayes system use a separate db for the "autolearn" mode? Today I noticed that my SA bayes has 50 spam and 45 ham mails learned, when I thought the db had a lot more, because bayes

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Marc Perkel
Richard Frovarp wrote: We issue tcp-reset via iptables and have never heard of any problems. Doing this also makes connecting servers fail out quickest, instead of waiting to timeout. Interesting. How do you do that?

SpamAssassin MIMEDefang High Load Average

2008-02-21 Thread sgurnick
I am currently running SpamAssassin 3.1.9 and MIMEDefang 2.6.3. I recently attempted an upgrade of SpamAssassin to the latest version (3.2.4) and in a matter of about 15 minutes, the load average on the server skyrocketed to over 20 and continued to grow. The output of the top command showed tha

Re: URIBL

2008-02-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:57:17AM +0100, Rocco Scappatura wrote: > I have looked at the SURBL site. If I have well understood I have to > enable only the plugin with loadPlugin. ... and it's enabled by default, so you should be all set. :) > Then I have to use the command 'urirhssub' of the plug

RE: URIBL

2008-02-21 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> HI, Rocco Hi Luis, > > I don't know what you mean for 'PRE QUEUE blacklist'.. > Anyway I would > > like to help SpamAssassin in scoring emails.. > > > > He means a blacklist which runs IN the MTA, not at SA level, > when the MTA has accepted the message. It rejects spammers as > they conn

RE: URIBL

2008-02-21 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> Quoting Rocco Scappatura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I have looked at the SURBL site. If I have well understood > I have to > > enable only the plugin with loadPlugin. > > > > Then I have to use the command 'urirhssub' of the plugin > URIDNSBL to > > specify that I want to use SURBLs: > >

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Frovarp
Marc Perkel wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: Didn't qmail have a problem if it hit a 'dead' primary mx server first? Qmail has a problem if it gets a 421 on the lowest MX. But if the lowest MX is totally dead Qmail is fine with it. We issue tcp-reset via iptables and have never heard

Re: autolearn vs sa-learn / Bayes

2008-02-21 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Hola, Diego 2008/2/21, Diego Pomatta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello list. > > Does the bayes system use a separate db for the "autolearn" mode? > > Today I noticed that my SA bayes has 50 spam and 45 ham mails learned, > when I thought the db had a lot more, because bayes IS being used. > > # sa

Re: No scoring because of not beeing tested ?

2008-02-21 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 10:14 +0100, Emmanuel Lesouef wrote: > Le Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:57:55 +0100, > Karsten Bräckelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > > At 13:51 20-02-2008, Emmanuel Lesouef wrote: > > > >http://pastebin.com/m61564e4 > > > > That's not a default SA header. X-Spam-Checker-Versio

RE: URIBL

2008-02-21 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting Rocco Scappatura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have looked at the SURBL site. If I have well understood I have to enable only the plugin with loadPlugin. Then I have to use the command 'urirhssub' of the plugin URIDNSBL to specify that I want to use SURBLs: urirhssub URIBL_JP_SURBL multi.su

autolearn vs sa-learn / Bayes

2008-02-21 Thread Diego Pomatta
Hello list. Does the bayes system use a separate db for the "autolearn" mode? Today I noticed that my SA bayes has 50 spam and 45 ham mails learned, when I thought the db had a lot more, because bayes IS being used. # sa-learn --dump magic 0.000 0 3 0 non-token dat

Re: mails not being received

2008-02-21 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting ploppy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: i enabled SA on one of my accounts and since disabling, no mails for that account are being received. i did tail -f /var/log/exim_mainlog and they are showing as completed, but they are not being delivered. they are not even in th mail que. i am using exim 4.

Errors all of a sudden?

2008-02-21 Thread David Gibbs
I was watching my maillog this morning, trying to spot something else that wasn't quite working right when I noticed a bunch of errors similar to the following: Feb 19 11:09:26 rivendell spamd[987]: Subroutine DEAR_SOMETHING_one_line_body_te st redefined at /var/lib/spamassassin/3.002004/upda

Installation on SpamAssassin

2008-02-21 Thread jeco
Hi to all members here, I'm a new member and would like to ask help on how to install SpamAssassin? Aside from working with an email server, will this work with Webmails like gmail, yahoo, or msn? thanks you in advance -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Installation-on-Spam

mails not being received

2008-02-21 Thread ploppy
i enabled SA on one of my accounts and since disabling, no mails for that account are being received. i did tail -f /var/log/exim_mainlog and they are showing as completed, but they are not being delivered. they are not even in th mail que. i am using exim 4.63 and didn't have this problem until i

Re: Bayes: What am I missing

2008-02-21 Thread comparity
spamis wrote: comparity wrote: Do you use sa-update? No I don't. However, I have just run it. restarted spamassassin (service spamassassin restart), and I'll see what happens. Hi comparity, has you could fix the problem updating SA? No, not as far as I can tel

Re: URIBL

2008-02-21 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
HI, Rocco 2008/2/21, Rocco Scappatura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Anyway I heard talking about URIBL, which as I have understod is a > > > quite different service (it blacklists 'domains' rather > > 'IPs'). But is > > > it maybe a dangerous practice to fight spam? Anyway, does anyone > > > sugg

Re: sa-learn "not" learning?

2008-02-21 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Hi, Scott, I'll give you my two cents here 2008/2/20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi John, > > Looks like yo replied directly to me. I couldn't find your reply on the > list yet? > At any rate... > > The Bayes DB has been learned and in effect for a long time - years before > my

Re: Bayes: What am I missing

2008-02-21 Thread spamis
comparity wrote: > > Do you use sa-update? > > > No I don't. However, I have just run it. restarted spamassassin > (service spamassassin restart), and I'll see what happens. > Hi comparity, has you could fix the problem updating SA? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabb

Re: filter blogspot

2008-02-21 Thread mouss
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Re: sa-learn "not" learning?

2008-02-21 Thread scott . pichelman
Hi John, Looks like yo replied directly to me. I couldn't find your reply on the list yet? At any rate... The Bayes DB has been learned and in effect for a long time - years before my time. No ID's have changed or the config that has caused this error. I add users to the whitelist - and use s

RE: URIBL

2008-02-21 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> > Anyway I heard talking about URIBL, which as I have understod is a > > quite different service (it blacklists 'domains' rather > 'IPs'). But is > > it maybe a dangerous practice to fight spam? Anyway, does anyone > > suggest me to use URIBL? > > Are you looking for a PRE QUEUE blacklist? O

Re: "Nice girl like to chat" spam

2008-02-21 Thread ItsMikeE
I have been running this rule for a day now, and am trapping the spams with rules 1 and 2. Curiously I have now starting picking these up on Bayes as well. Thanks for your help, and to everyone who responded. Kris Deugau wrote: > > # "Nice girl" wants to send pics, but only if you email the ad

RE: Why SA don't use bayes for some e-mails?

2008-02-21 Thread spamis
Robert - elists-2 wrote: > > Good question. Tough one without debugging your machine personally. > > Did you do any web searching for this? > > Have you considered upgrading to current SA 3.2.4 ? > > - rh > > > Yes, I have been finding any info relative to this, but I can't found nothin

Re: URIBL

2008-02-21 Thread Dave Koontz
I remember there was a period of time when dozens of URI delist requests were submitted all together without any detail. Could that have been the case with your reports? Theo Van Dinter wrote: FWIW, I used to report FP domains to URIBL daily until I was told to stop because there were too ma

Re: No scoring because of not beeing tested ?

2008-02-21 Thread Emmanuel Lesouef
Le Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:57:55 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 14:40 -0800, SM wrote: > > At 13:51 20-02-2008, Emmanuel Lesouef wrote: > > > > >http://pastebin.com/m61564e4 > > That's not a default SA header. X-Spam-Checker-Version is missing, and >

RE: URIBL

2008-02-21 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:08 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: URIBL > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 06:52:14PM +, Nigel Frankcom wrote: > > >Anyway I heard talking about URIBL, which as I have understod is a > >

Re: [OT] Bogus MX opinions

2008-02-21 Thread Matthias Leisi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Scheidell schrieb: | Postini uses it for their clients. | | They set up 4 'real' mx records (priority 100,200,300,400) that point to | real postini servers. They set up priority 500 that points to the | (firewalled) smtp server of the clien

Re: No scoring because of not beeing tested ?

2008-02-21 Thread Emmanuel Lesouef
Le Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:40:30 -0800, SM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > At 13:51 20-02-2008, Emmanuel Lesouef wrote: > > >http://pastebin.com/m61564e4 > > The message hits RDNS_NONE, HTML_MESSAGE, URIBL_WS_SURBL, > URIBL_JP_SURBL, URIBL_OB_SURBL, URIBL_SC_SURBL, URIBL_BLACK, > URIBL_RHS_DOB. T

filter blogspot

2008-02-21 Thread mdrivai
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