Re: Score vs Bars

2008-02-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:52:09PM -0500, Don Ireland wrote: > When I look at the message source, the following is among them--this is > actually from YOUR reply. > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.6 > X-Spam-Score: -65 > X-Spam-Bar: -- In a standard config, X-Spam-Status has a lot more infor

Re: Score vs Bars

2008-02-06 Thread Don Ireland
When I look at the message source, the following is among them--this is actually from YOUR reply. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.6 X-Spam-Score: -65 X-Spam-Bar: -- Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:22:00PM -0500, Don Ireland wrote: When looking at the headers that SA p

Re: Score vs Bars

2008-02-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:22:00PM -0500, Don Ireland wrote: > When looking at the headers that SA puts in my messages, what's the diff > between BARS and SCORE? It depends, what are you talking about? :) Do you have X-Spam-BARS and X-Spam-SCORE as headers? If so, you need to figure out what t

Score vs Bars

2008-02-06 Thread Don Ireland
When looking at the headers that SA puts in my messages, what's the diff between BARS and SCORE? TIA! Don Ireland

Re: Bayes

2008-02-06 Thread Paul Douglas Franklin of Yakima UGM
It runs as kolab-r, same as when I set up the cron job. --Paul Bowie Bailey wrote: Paul Douglas Franklin of Yakima UGM wrote: Sure enough, there is no such directory as /kolab/.spamassassin. I don't know what needs repairing or how to do it. --Paul The first thing to do is to make sur

RE: Bayes

2008-02-06 Thread Bowie Bailey
Paul Douglas Franklin of Yakima UGM wrote: > Yes, I almost mentioned that the first time. > But I just discovered something: sa-learn is no longer learning. It > was last I had checked, but when I attempted to dump the statistics > just now, it gave me an error message: > bayes: expire_old_tokens

Re: Body vs headers

2008-02-06 Thread Paul Douglas Franklin of Yakima UGM
Thanks. I have actually been writing rules for about 3 months now. The WritingRules wiki is most helpful. So far, only a couple of the rules have been problematic; I rarely have false positives. I can add similar rules for the from header--that's the one I would like the rules to apply to.

Re: Bayes

2008-02-06 Thread Paul Douglas Franklin of Yakima UGM
Yes, I almost mentioned that the first time. But I just discovered something: sa-learn is no longer learning. It was last I had checked, but when I attempted to dump the statistics just now, it gave me an error message: bayes: expire_old_tokens: locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile /

RE: Body vs headers

2008-02-06 Thread Bowie Bailey
Paul Douglas Franklin of Yakima UGM wrote: > I have noticed that spammers are putting dead giveaways into some of > the headers which are not checked with the body rules. Specifically, > I received an email with a sender name that was obviously spam. I hit > reply so that the sender name was repl

RE: Bayes

2008-02-06 Thread Bowie Bailey
Paul Douglas Franklin of Union Gospel Mission wrote: > > SA is marvelous! I installed Kolab last summer and have been using SA > to greatly cut down on spam. (It is filtering out about 5,500 e-mails > per week for our organization.) I'm not sure which version of SA > Kolab uses, but I believe i

Re: Bayes

2008-02-06 Thread Diego Pomatta
Paul Douglas Franklin of Union Gospel Mission escribió: I'm the only one in the organization whose system is configured to input into the SA bayesian filter, and I faithfully send those messages which I have marked in Thunderbird as junk to the spam learning folder for SA. Nonetheless, SA cont

Re: WG: Re:

2008-02-06 Thread mouss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi thx for your answer. The SA Version is 3.2.3 You are right, we are using postfix. For SA there is an entry in the master.cf of postfix: filterunix - n n - - pipe user=filter argv=/home/filter/sc/filter.sh -f ${sender} -- ${rec

Body vs headers

2008-02-06 Thread Paul Douglas Franklin of Yakima UGM
I have noticed that spammers are putting dead giveaways into some of the headers which are not checked with the body rules. Specifically, I received an email with a sender name that was obviously spam. I hit reply so that the sender name was replicated in the body and then changed the to: bac

Bayes

2008-02-06 Thread Paul Douglas Franklin of Union Gospel Mission
SA is marvelous! I installed Kolab last summer and have been using SA to greatly cut down on spam. (It is filtering out about 5,500 e-mails per week for our organization.) I'm not sure which version of SA Kolab uses, but I believe it is 3.0.x Lately I have been writing quite a few rules to tr

Re: x-cr-hashedpuzzle

2008-02-06 Thread mouss
Justin Mason wrote: I've been thinking about this. It might be useful to offer a plugin implementing this hashcash, since it'd offer a good way to come up with an unforgeable FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK rule. However, we'd have to be sure that the CSRI algorithm really is sufficiently open, and not paten

Re: sa-learn weirdness...

2008-02-06 Thread Arthur Dent
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:02:46PM +0100, Paolo Cravero wrote: > Arthur Dent wrote: > >> Learned tokens from 8 message(s) (3165 message(s) examined) >> Learned tokens from 4628 message(s) (8703 message(s) examined) >> Learned tokens from 3890 message(s) (8634 message(s) examined) >> Learned tokens

Re: upgrading is just like installing

2008-02-06 Thread Kris Deugau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, now after reading the whole INSTALL file, I come to the conclusion that to upgrade, one just acts like one never installed SpamAssassin in the first place, and apparently the new SpamAssassin will just install on top of the old one (with cruft surely accumulating in t

Re: sa-learn weirdness...

2008-02-06 Thread Paolo Cravero
Arthur Dent wrote: Learned tokens from 8 message(s) (3165 message(s) examined) Learned tokens from 4628 message(s) (8703 message(s) examined) Learned tokens from 3890 message(s) (8634 message(s) examined) Learned tokens from 2264 message(s) (8671 message(s) examined) Learned tokens from 2303 mes

RE: Meta rule

2008-02-06 Thread Randal, Phil
try meta WEBTENT_LB LONGWORDS && (BAYES_50 || BAYES_60 || BAYES_80 || BAYES_95 || BAYES_99) Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -Original Message- > From: Robert Fitzpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 February 2008 15:09 > To:

Meta rule

2008-02-06 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here? meta WEBTENT_LB __LONGWORDS && (__BAYES_50 || __BAYES_60 || __BAYES_80 || __BAYES_95 || __BAYES_99) describe WEBTENT_LB Contains long words and Bayesian spam probability of 50% or higher score WEBTENT_LB 3.5 While my messages hit both LONGWORDS an

Re: x-cr-hashedpuzzle

2008-02-06 Thread Justin Mason
I've been thinking about this. It might be useful to offer a plugin implementing this hashcash, since it'd offer a good way to come up with an unforgeable FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK rule. However, we'd have to be sure that the CSRI algorithm really is sufficiently open, and not patent-encumbered, since

WG: Re:

2008-02-06 Thread Juergen . Boehm
Hi thx for your answer. The SA Version is 3.2.3 You are right, we are using postfix. For SA there is an entry in the master.cf of postfix: filterunix - n n - - pipe user=filter argv=/home/filter/sc/filter.sh -f ${sender} -- ${recipient} The filter.sh: #!

sa-learn weirdness...

2008-02-06 Thread Arthur Dent
Well, in fairness, it's probably not sa-learn that's causing the weirdness but my setup. I don't understand what's causing the problem however. Allow me to explain... I have a nightly cron job that runs a script to do sa-learning. Learning spam is no problem, it's all in one mail folder (2 actuall

Re: Problems with CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER & UNWANTED_MESSAGE_BODY (was Re: Japanese emails being triggered as Spam incorrectly...)

2008-02-06 Thread Matt Kettler
David Hobley wrote: All, I have been trying to work out what is the core issue here, but I am still stumped. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Yes, the code for japan in ok_locales and ok_languages is ja, not jp. Your current setting essentially boils down to English only.

Problems with CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER & UNWANTED_MESSAGE_BODY (was Re: Japanese emails being triggered as Spam incorrectly...)

2008-02-06 Thread David Hobley
All, I have been trying to work out what is the core issue here, but I am still stumped. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Cheers, David - Original Message - From: "David Hobley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2008 02:30:45 PM (GMT

Re: x-cr-hashedpuzzle

2008-02-06 Thread Matt Kettler
mouss wrote: - The x-cr-hashedpuzzle header contains the recipients. There is a serious privacy issue. - the algorithm isn't open. If every company starts adding proprietary headers, we will no more have a place for the body. Followup: I've recently discovered that both of these are non-issu

Re: x-cr-hashedpuzzle

2008-02-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> >> http://www.openspf.org/caller-id/csri.pdf Chapter 11, pages 37 to 45 > >> inclusive On 05.02.08 15:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > interesting reading :) I believe that, in a time where zombie armies > powered by quad-core cpus pour spam over the internet, compute-bound > puzzles would not rea

Re:

2008-02-06 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi i need help with Spamassassin. Once in a month we have to send a massive amount of mails at the same time. These are Invoice mails to our customers. The problem is, that spamd controls all these mails, which are send from a different Server in our network. It happ

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2008-02-06 Thread Juergen . Boehm
Hi i need help with Spamassassin. Once in a month we have to send a massive amount of mails at the same time. These are Invoice mails to our customers. The problem is, that spamd controls all these mails, which are send from a different Server in our network. It happens that 1/4 of this mails