OT: sender address verification .. is it feasible

2006-11-30 Thread Ramprasad
I had read of sender address verification(SAV) about a year back, some people had done that too. I found the idea too unfeasible for checking from-addresses before accepting mail at MTA. The scene is different today now with 90% of all mail being spam it seems not that bad an idea anyway My gue

Re: My Credit rateing does TOO matter

2006-11-30 Thread John Andersen
On Thursday 30 November 2006 21:11, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > John Andersen wrote: > > How is it these spams slip under the radar with such low scores? > > They seldom score about 3.1 in my setup even with network tests > > and bayes (SA 3.1.7). > > I don't think I've seen such a spam pass as ham

Re: Problem with spam from non-existant users of my domain.

2006-11-30 Thread Alan Premselaar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steven W. Orr wrote: > On Tuesday, Nov 28th 2006 at 08:09 -0800, quoth John D. Hardin: > > =>On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Steven W. Orr wrote: > => > =>> Spam comes in to steveo from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I want to > =>> reject it because it's coming from an

Re: My Credit rateing does TOO matter

2006-11-30 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
John Andersen wrote: How is it these spams slip under the radar with such low scores? They seldom score about 3.1 in my setup even with network tests and bayes (SA 3.1.7). I don't think I've seen such a spam pass as ham, although you've been quite vague. I wish I could find an effective b

My Credit rateing does TOO matter

2006-11-30 Thread John Andersen
How is it these spams slip under the radar with such low scores? They seldom score about 3.1 in my setup even with network tests and bayes (SA 3.1.7). I wish I could find an effective block for them other than killing off all geocities urls. -- _ John Ande

reporter.pl

2006-11-30 Thread Chris
I run a perl script that was written quite awhile back by D.J. Harbaugh in 2004. Its purpose is to run sa-learn and to report all spam to Razor/Pyzor/DCC and optionally SpamCop. At the end of the run it 'used' to send me a report of how much spam/ham was learned and the total number of each in

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Gary V
From: Ray Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My solution to this problem is this: I'm running postfix 2.1.5-5 on Fedora Core 3 and recently had this same question come up. I was whitelisting all 30something domains I hosted but ran into spammers using foo@ to get around spam filtering. My solutio

Re: whitelisted where?

2006-11-30 Thread Matt Kettler
Scott Kopel wrote: > I'm noticing a bunch of obviously spam that is getting thru because it > is "whitelisted" > where is this whitelist? it's not something I created. > it's not the auto_whitelist is it? wouldn't that say AWL Yes, that would say AWL. And SA's whitelist_from* would sa USER_IN_WHITE

Re: HTML Source Rule

2006-11-30 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:01 PM -0600 Richard Frovarp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kenneth Porter wrote: --On Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:17 PM -0600 Richard Frovarp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a few legit messages that are scoring over 5.0 due to SARE_STOCKS and the TVD rules

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Ray Anderson
Craig Morrison wrote: Gary V wrote: Exactly. How you prevent sending the message through SA is not a function of SA itself, but of the implementation, and because of the large number of implementations and configurations I question whether it would be practical (or even related) to provide exa

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Craig Morrison
Gary V wrote: Exactly. How you prevent sending the message through SA is not a function of SA itself, but of the implementation, and because of the large number of implementations and configurations I question whether it would be practical (or even related) to provide examples of the various p

Re: whitelisted where?

2006-11-30 Thread Craig Morrison
Scott Kopel wrote: I'm noticing a bunch of obviously spam that is getting thru because it is "whitelisted" where is this whitelist? it's not something I created. it's not the auto_whitelist is it? wouldn't that say AWL is it the phishing whitelist? when I start MailScanner I see "Read 755 hostn

Re: whitelisted where?

2006-11-30 Thread Craig Morrison
Scott Kopel wrote: I'm noticing a bunch of obviously spam that is getting thru because it is "whitelisted" where is this whitelist? it's not something I created. it's not the auto_whitelist is it? wouldn't that say AWL is it the phishing whitelist? when I start MailScanner I see "Read 755 hostn

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Gary V
There's always the blunt method: "How do I have spamassassin... not scan outgoing mail? not scan mail for authenticated users? not scan mail for Bob, but scan mail for Joe? not scan mail from yahoo.com? not scan mail ? Answer: Don't call spamassassin when that condition is met. Spamassassin will

whitelisted where?

2006-11-30 Thread Scott Kopel
I'm noticing a bunch of obviously spam that is getting thru because it is "whitelisted" where is this whitelist? it's not something I created. it's not the auto_whitelist is it? wouldn't that say AWL is it the phishing whitelist? when I start MailScanner I see "Read 755 hostnames from the phishi

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Evan Platt
At 02:35 PM 11/30/2006, you wrote: On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:46:41PM -0500, Craig Morrison wrote: > Is there a FAQ entry for this somewhere on the wiki? There could be, but most people don't look there anyway. I haven't checked. Read through some frequently asked questions? FAQ that! :-D

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:46:41PM -0500, Craig Morrison wrote: > Is there a FAQ entry for this somewhere on the wiki? There could be, but most people don't look there anyway. I haven't checked. -- Randomly Selected Tagline: "The very essence of leadership is that you have to have a vision. You

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Evan Platt
At 02:13 PM 11/30/2006, you wrote: Because of the many ways SA can be implemented, other than the suggestion provided, the task of providing a working example of how this is accomplished for each possible implementation is not simple (because it's no small task to imagine every possible imple

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Gary V
Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 01:02:29PM -0800, leemansvg wrote: This might be a simple question for most of you. How would I prevent spamassassin from scanning my internal mail, e.g from a particular server, or originating from my internal network. Don't pass those to SpamA

Re: webg bug

2006-11-30 Thread Craig Morrison
Jean-Paul Natola wrote: I was wondering if there is a way to either strip away, or totally block messages that have "web bugs" that report back to servers like www.readnotify.com http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html Can someone help a newbie find some info on instal

RE: webg bug

2006-11-30 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
> I was wondering if there is a way to either strip away, or totally block > messages that have "web bugs" that report back to servers like > www.readnotify.com http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html Can someone help a newbie find some info on installing procmail ?

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Craig Morrison
Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 01:02:29PM -0800, leemansvg wrote: This might be a simple question for most of you. How would I prevent spamassassin from scanning my internal mail, e.g from a particular server, or originating from my internal network. Don't pass those to SpamAss

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
leemansvg wrote: This might be a simple question for most of you. How would I prevent spamassassin from scanning my internal mail Don't pass the mail to SpamAssassin. SA is a mail filter, it'll filter anything it's given. Daryl

Re: Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 01:02:29PM -0800, leemansvg wrote: > This might be a simple question for most of you. How would I prevent > spamassassin from scanning my internal mail, e.g from a particular server, > or originating from my internal network. Don't pass those to SpamAssassin. Once SA gets

Prevent scanning internal mail

2006-11-30 Thread leemansvg
This might be a simple question for most of you. How would I prevent spamassassin from scanning my internal mail, e.g from a particular server, or originating from my internal network. E.g if my domain was mydomain.org, I could whitelist 'mydomain.org' the problem is lately I've seen these pesky s

Re: Stock Spam

2006-11-30 Thread Vivek Khera
On Nov 29, 2006, at 6:16 PM, san wrote: Yeah Giampaolo. with 3.1x it should be alright. But my superior is still stick to the old one..:( Does he also use 3 year old antivirus software with no updates? At least updating SA is pretty much zero cost other than a few minutes of time.

RE: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
> From: Dennis Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ... > > > Question 2: someone asked why my module is "Botnet" instead of > > "Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Botnet". The answer is: when I > > first started this (and this is/was my first SA Plugin authoring > > attempt), I tried that and it didn't w

Re: webg bug

2006-11-30 Thread John D. Hardin
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > I was wondering if there is a way to either strip away, or totally block > messages that have "web bugs" that report back to servers like > www.readnotify.com http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread Rob Mangiafico
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Jonas Eckerman wrote: > John Rudd wrote: > > > Question 1: Someone suggested that, for botnet_pass_domains, I not > > re-invent the wheel. SA already has several whitelist options > > (whitelist* and sare_whitelist* were specifically mentioned). They > > suggested that I

Restart Errors..

2006-11-30 Thread Chris Edwards
What do these errors mean when I am restarting spamd? Nov 30 13:56:55 gandalf spamd[11971]: spamd: server killed by SIGTERM, shutting down Nov 30 13:56:59 gandalf spamd[12018]: logger: removing stderr method Nov 30 13:57:00 gandalf spamd[12020]: rules: meta test __SARE_HEAD_FALSE has undefined de

Re: sa-update / taint error

2006-11-30 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Henk van Lingen wrote: On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 11:55:36AM -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > Henk van Lingen wrote: > > >[14411] dbg: generic: unlinking 10_misc.cf > >Insecure dependency in unlink while running with -T switch at > >/usr/bin/sa-update line 1173. > > Please try the

Re: Odd behaviour (?) of my Qmail / Qmail Scanner / SpamAssassin 3.1.3 Setup?

2006-11-30 Thread Kris Deugau
Bookworm wrote: (locate -i bayes_journal works well for this sort of thing) ... assuming you're not on a system like Debian, where locate is pretty much crippled for finding things in user home directories. :/ (The process that populates the database locate relies on is set up to exclude n

Re: sa-update / taint error

2006-11-30 Thread Henk van Lingen
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 11:55:36AM -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > Henk van Lingen wrote: > > >[14411] dbg: generic: unlinking 10_misc.cf > >Insecure dependency in unlink while running with -T switch at > >/usr/bin/sa-update line 1173. > > Please try the attached patch and *plea

webg bug

2006-11-30 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Hi everyone, I'm not sure if I should post to the Exim list or the SA list- Excuse me if its not the correct list- I was wondering if there is a way to either strip away, or totally block messages that have "web bugs" that report back to servers like www.readnotify.com TIA Jean

Re: Problem with spam from non-existant users of my domain.

2006-11-30 Thread Nels Lindquist
On 28 Nov 2006 at 11:33, Steven W. Orr wrote: > One more example to be clearerer. This message came in from someplace in > Russia (maybe), to syslang.net and claims to come from bs at syslang.net. > I don't have a bs on my machine. If it helps, I'd even be willing to > create a file with a li

Re: forged spam emails from my own domain

2006-11-30 Thread Craig Morrison
vertito wrote: i am receiving spam emails coming from my own domain.com but that email address does not existing from my own domain.com. say my domain is mydomain.com and that spam email had FROM header that shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is currently whitelisted from spamassassin global rules

Re: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread Bill Landry
John Rudd wrote the following on 11/30/2006 9:26 AM -0800: Jonas Eckerman wrote: John Rudd wrote: Question 2: someone asked why my module is "Botnet" instead of "Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Botnet". The answer is: when I first started this (and this is/was my first SA Plugin authoring attempt

Re: check_illegal_chars

2006-11-30 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 06:22:46PM +0100, Jeremy Fairbrass wrote: > Can someone please let me know exactly what illegal characters are being > checked for with the eval:check_illegal_chars rules? Can I find a list of > those characters somewhere? > Also, what are the meanings of the variables tha

Re: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread John Rudd
Jonas Eckerman wrote: John Rudd wrote: Question 2: someone asked why my module is "Botnet" instead of "Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Botnet". The answer is: when I first started this (and this is/was my first SA Plugin authoring attempt), I tried that and it didn't work. That's odd. What erro

forged spam emails from my own domain

2006-11-30 Thread vertito
i am receiving spam emails coming from my own domain.com but that email address does not existing from my own domain.com. say my domain is mydomain.com and that spam email had FROM header that shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is currently whitelisted from spamassassin global rules and currently d

check_illegal_chars

2006-11-30 Thread Jeremy Fairbrass
Hi all, Can someone please let me know exactly what illegal characters are being checked for with the eval:check_illegal_chars rules? Can I find a list of those characters somewhere? Also, what are the meanings of the variables that this rule takes? For example: eval:check_illegal_chars('Subje

Re: sa-update / taint error

2006-11-30 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Henk van Lingen wrote: [14411] dbg: generic: unlinking 10_misc.cf Insecure dependency in unlink while running with -T switch at /usr/bin/sa-update line 1173. Please try the attached patch and *please* let me know if it resolves the problem. Daryl Index: sa-update.raw ==

Re: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread Jonas Eckerman
John Rudd wrote: > Question 1: Someone suggested that, for botnet_pass_domains, I not > re-invent the wheel. SA already has several whitelist options > (whitelist* and sare_whitelist* were specifically mentioned). They > suggested that I leverage them. My first (two part) question is: Perso

Re: This is so obvious...

2006-11-30 Thread Craig Morrison
Jon D. Slater wrote: To me, they look like Perl regular expressions (which I **have** written). Do I add my new rule to my local.cf or directly to 70_sare_specific.cf? local.cf is the best place. Placing them in any of the stock SA rule files or in the RDJ files will cause you to lose them

Re: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread Jonas Eckerman
John Rudd wrote: > Question 2: someone asked why my module is "Botnet" instead of > "Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Botnet". The answer is: when I first > started this (and this is/was my first SA Plugin authoring attempt), I > tried that and it didn't work. That's odd. What errors did you get?

RE: This is so obvious...

2006-11-30 Thread Jon D. Slater
Okay.. I have to confess.. I’ve never written a rule.. To me, they look like Perl regular expressions (which I *have* written). Do I add my new rule to my local.cf or directly to 70_sare_specific.cf? Are there any guides to writing rules? Also the area code below is written with an ‘L’

RE: Spamassasin Has Quit Working

2006-11-30 Thread Sietse van Zanen
You should upgrade spamass-milter too. The error is from the milter, not SA itself. -Sietse From: Chris Edwards Sent: Thu 30-Nov-06 16:28 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Spamassasin Has Quit Working Hello All! I have been running with spamassassin & spamass-milter sucsessfully fo

RE: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread Bret Miller
> Question 2: someone asked why my module is "Botnet" instead of > "Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Botnet". The answer is: when I first > started this (and this is/was my first SA Plugin authoring > attempt), I > tried that and it didn't work. If someone wants to look at it, and > figure out how to

Re: MX server Queue

2006-11-30 Thread SM
At 06:11 30-11-2006, chisina mike wrote: MX1 sendmail server mail queue is getting bigger, it must forward all mail to Main mail server. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mqueue]# grep stat=queue -c /var/log/maillog 6363 I tried the following commands # vi /etc/MailScanner/MailScanner.conf [snip] But I sti

Re: some concernns in collaboratif effort in learning process for Bayesian filter

2006-11-30 Thread John D. Hardin
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Najib Abi Fadel wrote: > Create a mail account let's say : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell > trusted users to forward the mails they identify as spam to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" . Run a cron job that launch "sa-learn" on > the mailbox "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", making the spamassassin > identif

Spamassasin Has Quit Working

2006-11-30 Thread Chris Edwards
Hello All! I have been running with spamassassin & spamass-milter sucsessfully for several months. Then Redhat did a update and now I am having issues with spam not getting scored. Does anyone have any clue where I should go next? Thanks! Log Entry... >Nov 30 10:20:03 gandalf spamass-mi

Re: long: spamc returns 0/0 (spamd is crashing)

2006-11-30 Thread Rejaine Monteiro
The *difference between* log before and after spamd restart (maybe) is: the spamd do a prefork child and closed connection, before finish the rest of tests (*terminated* prematurely !?!) Look: - log when spamd crashed + log when spamd is work fine - dcc: got response: X-DCC-sonic.ne

Re: some concernns in collaboratif effort in learning process for Bayesian filter

2006-11-30 Thread Matt Kettler
Najib Abi Fadel wrote: > Hi all, > > since it is hard for a person to teach the spamassassin which mails > are spam and which are not for all users, i was thinking about doing > the following: > > Create a mail account let's say : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tell trusted users to forward the mails they id

RE: RE: How to extract the Reverse DNS hostname by script means?

2006-11-30 Thread vitas1
Hello! "Leon Kolchinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 19.11.2006 09:28:14: > Hi Bret, > > According to tip from Gary V. you can reliably use whitelist_from_rcvd, > You only should configure the following parameters right: > > trusted_networks > internal_networks > > > > Best Regards, > Le

long: spamc returns 0/0 (spamd is crashing)

2006-11-30 Thread Rejaine Monteiro
My spamassassin works fine, but sometimes is crashing . I need some help to figure out the cause and fix... Above, many details for this problem: I'm using Suse 10.0 Spamassassin 3.1.6 perl-5.8.7 As you can see, all my spamd process is running # netstat -an | grep 783 tcp0 0 1

Re: MX server Queue

2006-11-30 Thread Jim Maul
chisina mike wrote: MX1 sendmail server mail queue is getting bigger, it must forward all mail to Main mail server. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mqueue]# grep stat=queue -c /var/log/maillog 6363 I tried the following commands # vi /etc/MailScanner/MailScanner.conf Deliver In Background = yes Delivery Meth

Re: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread Dennis Davis
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, John Rudd wrote: > From: John Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org, > CommuniGate Pro Discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > MailScanner discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:06:55 -0800 > Subject: new Botnet plugin version soon

MX server Queue

2006-11-30 Thread chisina mike
MX1 sendmail server mail queue is getting bigger, it must forward all mail to Main mail server. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mqueue]# grep stat=queue -c /var/log/maillog 6363 I tried the following commands # vi /etc/MailScanner/MailScanner.conf Deliver In Background = yes Delivery Method = queue # vi /etc

Re: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread Mark Martinec
John, > a) do any of them have a small enough value that they wouldn't counter > botnet's default score of 5? Meaning, if I "do nothing" with respect to > those other whitelist mechanisms, they'll still "do the right thing" and > let the botnet hosts through, right? Not by default, although I se

RE: new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread Rob McEwen
Suggestion: Rename your plugin to "AntiBotnet" (or something like that) Otherwise, I could see someone getting the "good guys" and "bad guys" mixed up when reading or hearing about this! Rob McEwen

new Botnet plugin version soon

2006-11-30 Thread John Rudd
Things I'm putting into the new Botnet version (which will be 0.5): 1) someone noticed that some MTA's (specifically CommuniGate Pro) don't put the relay's RDNS into the Received headers, and thus Botnet 0.4 always triggered "NORDNS" when run on that MTA. In the new version, if Botnet finds

sa-update / taint error

2006-11-30 Thread Henk van Lingen
Hi, Whenever I try to run sa-update, it ends with the error: sa-update -D --channelfile /etc/mail/spamassassin/sare-sa-update-channels.txt --gpgkey 856AA88A ... [14411] dbg: generic: unlinking 10_misc.cf Insecure dependency in unlink while running with -T switch at /usr/bin/sa-update line 11

some concernns in collaboratif effort in learning process for Bayesian filter

2006-11-30 Thread Najib Abi Fadel
Hi all, since it is hard for a person to teach the spamassassin which mails are spam and which are not for all users, i was thinking about doing the following: Create a mail account let's say : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell trusted users to forward the mails they identify as spam to "[EMAIL PROTECTED