Re: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-17 Thread Evan Platt
At 10:48 PM 2/17/2006, you wrote: Today I got a spam message which seems, at least for a newbie like me, succeeded in passing SA for some reason! I'm calling SA through amavisd-new and have my Rules Du Jour updated (manual updates so far) I would like to block such messages therefore, I'm seeki

Help routing messages with spamd

2006-02-17 Thread Erwin Zavala
Whenever I use : #smtp inet n - n - - smtpd smtp inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter=spam spam unix - n n - - pipe user=spamd argv=/usr/bin/spamc -f -e /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -f ${sende

A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-17 Thread Yousef Raffah
Today I got a spam message which seems, at least for a newbie like me, succeeded in passing SA for some reason! I'm calling SA through amavisd-new and have my Rules Du Jour updated (manual updates so far) I would like to block such messages therefore, I'm seeking your kind assistance in determini

Re: How do i keep these from being logged?

2006-02-17 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi theo, >> is there a way to turn off logging for these *particular* errors? my logs >> are getting bloated >> with a heavy prevalence of these two: > > No. However, you can disable the loadplugin lines in the config file so that > the erro

Re: How do i keep these from being logged?

2006-02-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:02:54PM -0800, OpenMacNews wrote: > is there a way to turn off logging for these *particular* errors? my logs > are getting bloated > with a heavy prevalence of these two: No. However, you can disable the loadplugin lines in the config file so that the errors stop bei

How do i keep these from being logged?

2006-02-17 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi, i've SA-head built on OSX 10.4.5. i've brought the fact that these missing-plugin errors keep showing up a number of times to no avail ... fair nuf. is there a way to turn off logging for these *particular* errors? my logs are getting b

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, February 17, 2006, 5:34:57 PM, Matthew Eerde wrote: > It's not particularly important how many URLs the lists have in > common. What is important is how many *false positives* the > lists have in common... or more to the point, whether a given "good" URL > is more likely to be on (say)

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, February 17, 2006, 4:04:42 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: > Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: > I consider that "highly similar" for JP, SC, AB, OB and WS. As similar as 30 and 40, and 0, .3 and 7 are, I suppose. >> >>> On another paw how "independent" are these lists? Do any inherit fr

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, February 17, 2006, 3:36:07 PM, jdow jdow wrote: > On another paw how "independent" are these lists? Do any inherit from other > lists or are they all separately maintained? The different SURBL lists are all separately maintained. Only AB and SC share a data source, namely SpamCop user

Re: Template Tags?

2006-02-17 Thread Marc Perkel
Odd - no _RAZOR_ tag to return the confidence level?

RE: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Matt Kettler wrote: >>> On another paw how "independent" are these lists? Do any inherit >>> from other lists or are they all separately maintained? >> >> They use different datasources and no cross links between them. If >> there is a real nasty one we could/would talk about it on the >> private

RE: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Dallas Engelken
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 00:05 > To: Raymond Dijkxhoorn > Cc: jdow; users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists... > > Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: > > Hi! > > >>> > I consider t

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: > Hi! >>> I consider that "highly similar" for JP, SC, AB, OB and WS. >>> >>> As similar as 30 and 40, and 0, .3 and 7 are, I suppose. > >> On another paw how "independent" are these lists? Do any inherit from >> other >> lists or are they all separately maintained?

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread mouss
Chris Santerre a écrit : > >>-Original Message- >>From: mouss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:28 PM >>To: jdow >>Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org >>Subject: Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists... >> > > SNIP > >>also, when someone's filter misses spam, the comm

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! 0.293 0.3406 0.1.000 0.470.00 URIBL_PH_SURBL 0.000 0. 0.0.500 0.420.00 URIBL_RED 0.000 0. 0.0.500 0.420.01 T_URIBL_XS_SURBL 37.539 42.4763 7.26260.854 0.380.00 URIBL_WS_SURBL 0.548 0.3446 1.79740.

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread jdow
From: "Jeff Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Friday, February 17, 2006, 7:19:50 AM, Matt Kettler wrote: Jeff Chan wrote: On Thursday, February 16, 2006, 9:13:36 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: I'm only presenting evidence of accuracy problems in relation to why the URIBLs collectively wield a great dea

RE: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Dallas Engelken
> -Original Message- > From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 21:34 > To: Dallas L. Engelken > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists... > > Dallas L. Engelken wrote: > > The result will be no URIBL only F

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matt Kettler wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Dallas L. Engelken wrote: The result will be no URIBL only FPs. OTOH, you may end up with a shit-ton of people bitching about spam accuracy dropping in stock 3.2 installs if you make these changes. I'm not sure it'd be *that* bad. A grep of my

RE: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Dallas Engelken
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 18:47 > To: Matt Kettler > Cc: Jeff Chan; users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists... > > Matt Kettler wrote: > > > I'll even re-quote myself: > >> I pers

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > Dallas L. Engelken wrote: >> The result will be no URIBL only FPs. OTOH, you may end up with a >> shit-ton of people bitching about spam accuracy dropping in stock 3.2 >> installs if you make these changes. > > I'm not sure it'd be *that* bad. > > A grep of my logs

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread DAve
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Dallas L. Engelken wrote: The result will be no URIBL only FPs. OTOH, you may end up with a shit-ton of people bitching about spam accuracy dropping in stock 3.2 installs if you make these changes. I'm not sure it'd be *that* bad. A grep of my logs from this wee

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Dallas L. Engelken wrote: The result will be no URIBL only FPs. OTOH, you may end up with a shit-ton of people bitching about spam accuracy dropping in stock 3.2 installs if you make these changes. I'm not sure it'd be *that* bad. A grep of my logs from this week shows that 1.1% of my spam

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Chris Thielen
Matt Kettler wrote: > Jeff Chan wrote: > >> There may be some value in not lumping together URIBL.com and >> SURBL.org lists. As you can see the performance of the lists are >> different, and the way they're created is different too. That >> makes it harder for us to respond to comments that s

RE: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 05:14 > To: Dallas L. Engelken > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists... > > Dallas L. Engelken wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: M

Re: spamassassin + spamhaus postfix filtering

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Maul
Christer Edwards wrote: Basic info: spamassassin 3.0.4-2 (ubuntu repo package) Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) Postfix 2.2.4-1ubuntu2 (ubuntu repo package) Used in my postfix main/master.cf smtpd_client_restrictions = reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org This effectively blocks A LOT of attempted spam f

spamassassin + spamhaus postfix filtering

2006-02-17 Thread Christer Edwards
Basic info: spamassassin 3.0.4-2 (ubuntu repo package) Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) Postfix 2.2.4-1ubuntu2 (ubuntu repo package) Used in my postfix main/master.cf smtpd_client_restrictions = reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org This effectively blocks A LOT of attempted spam from known addresses, which

Re: Question on long scan times - Bayes expire

2006-02-17 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Kevin W. Gagel wrote: - Original Message - Thanks, that explains something. What man page do I read up on to be able to figure out how to expire the bayes db manually? I've a quick look but don't see anything jumping out at me. Found it in sa-learn, I've setup a cronjob to run it once a

Re: Question on long scan times - Bayes expire

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
>- Original Message - >Thanks, that explains something. What man page do I read up >on to be able to figure out how to expire the bayes db >manually? I've a quick look but don't see anything jumping >out at me. Found it in sa-learn, I've setup a cronjob to run it once a day. We'll see how

RE: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: Over-scoring of SURBL lists... > -Original Message- > From: mouss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:28 PM > To: jdow > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists... > SNIP > > also, when someone's filter miss

Re: Question on long scan times

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
- Original Message - >spamc -t only controls the timeout of the spamc client. >spamd continues to process the message. > >Scan times of 798 seconds are probably a result of a bayes >expiry. If auto expiry is enabled (default) I'd disable >it and run a manually expiry as a cron job. > >

Re: Question on long scan times

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Jackson
I am running spamd/spamc and have spamc launching with "-t 55". Yet I'm finding that scans are taking as long as 798 seconds to complete, not alot of them but the question is why isn't it timing out? Any suggestions on what to look for? spamc -t only controls the timeout of the spamc client. s

Re: Question on long scan times

2006-02-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Kevin W. Gagel wrote: > I am running spamd/spamc and have spamc launching with "-t > 55". Yet I'm finding that scans are taking as long as 798 > seconds to complete, not alot of them but the question is > why isn't it timing out? > > Any suggestions on what to look for? If it's just a few, maybe

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Matt Kettler wrote: > I'll even re-quote myself: >> I personally would like to see some statistics, but at this point, we >> don't have any test data on this so we're arguing your theory vs mine. > And your quote that I was counter-pointing: >> As you can see the performance of the lists are dif

Re: Question on long scan times

2006-02-17 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Kevin W. Gagel wrote: I am running spamd/spamc and have spamc launching with "-t 55". Yet I'm finding that scans are taking as long as 798 seconds to complete, not alot of them but the question is why isn't it timing out? Any suggestions on what to look for? spamc -t only controls the timeout

Question on long scan times

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
I am running spamd/spamc and have spamc launching with "-t 55". Yet I'm finding that scans are taking as long as 798 seconds to complete, not alot of them but the question is why isn't it timing out? Any suggestions on what to look for? = Kevin W. Gagel Network Adm

Re: Several problems with SA 3.1

2006-02-17 Thread Frank Bures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:22:30 +0100 (CET), Eduardo Gimeno wrote: >Thanks for the reply. I found the sample .procmailrc file at some >documentation page... I would expect it beign case sensitive to... >Well, then I leave the rule as "^X-Spam-Status: Yes

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread mouss
jdow a écrit : > Rune, there are two canonical means of solving that petty issue. If > there is someone likely to send you such a message white list her. Or > simply munge the name, for example http://uri-here-M/uri/. > I would like to whitelist all legitimate senders. unfortunately, I don't have

Re: Template Tags?

2006-02-17 Thread Marc Perkel
Thanks - that's what I needed. Matt Kettler wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I see a section on template tags but it doesn't show what file these tags are used in. I'm trying to add the vayes score to the header. How do I do that? with a "add_header" command in local.cf. add_

Re: i know i'm stupid but...

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Maul
Zdenko Aka wrote: On 2/17/06, Jim Maul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Zdenko Aka wrote: hi to all, i've installed SA 3.1.0 on Fedora (qmail) using yum install spamassassin command. after that, i've tried to find any detailed manual for setting it up but no luck... can you seuggest me any link or

Re: i know i'm stupid but...

2006-02-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Zdenko Aka wrote: > hi to all, > > i've installed SA 3.1.0 on Fedora (qmail) using yum install > spamassassin command. > > after that, i've tried to find any detailed manual for setting it up > but no luck... > can you seuggest me any link or give me few tipe&tricks? > If you want to call it di

Re: i know i'm stupid but...

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Maul
Zdenko Aka wrote: hi to all, i've installed SA 3.1.0 on Fedora (qmail) using yum install spamassassin command. after that, i've tried to find any detailed manual for setting it up but no luck... can you seuggest me any link or give me few tipe&tricks? thanks in advance, zdenko like http:/

i know i'm stupid but...

2006-02-17 Thread Zdenko Aka
hi to all, i've installed SA 3.1.0 on Fedora (qmail) using yum install spamassassin command. after that, i've tried to find any detailed manual for setting it up but no luck... can you seuggest me any link or give me few tipe&tricks? thanks in advance, zdenko

Re: Template Tags?

2006-02-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Marc Perkel wrote: > I see a section on template tags but it doesn't show what file these > tags are used in. I'm trying to add the vayes score to the header. How > do I do that? with a "add_header" command in local.cf. add_header all BayesScore _BAYES_ Will add a header called "X-Spam-BayesScor

Re: FW: Spam Score Advise

2006-02-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: > > Hi Everybody , > > I started spamassassin score from 6.5 , now I’m watching the mail flow > and I saw that if mails are really a mail they have a point bettween > 0.1 – 1.x , and some of spams are getting score between 5.0 – 5.9 and > because of this I couldn’t catch it

RE: Spam Score Advise

2006-02-17 Thread Bret Miller
Title: Message We drop spam at 5.0 and optionally file 4.0-4.99 mail in the user's Junk E-mail if they have that folder. -Original Message-From: Vahric MUHTARYAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:25 AMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: FW: Spam

RE: Spam Score Advise

2006-02-17 Thread Bowie Bailey
Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: > > I started spamassassin score from 6.5 , now I’m watching the mail > flow and I saw that if mails are really a mail they have a point > bettween 0.1 - 1.x , and some of spams are getting score between 5.0 > - 5.9 and because of this I couldn’t catch it . Actually I know

FW: Spam Score Advise

2006-02-17 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
  Hi Everybody ,   I started spamassassin score from 6.5 , now I’m watching the mail flow and I saw that if mails are really a mail they have a point bettween 0.1 – 1.x , and some of spams are getting score between 5.0 – 5.9 and because of this I couldn’t catch it . Actually I know I ca

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Jeff Chan wrote: > >> I don't see the difference from the recent results posted by Theo. >> > > That's like saying two different RBLs that hit a similar > percentage of spams must therefore have the same policies, even > when they may have no data in common. It's not a conclusion that > can b

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, February 17, 2006, 7:19:50 AM, Matt Kettler wrote: > Jeff Chan wrote: >> On Thursday, February 16, 2006, 9:13:36 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: >> >>> I'm only presenting evidence of accuracy problems in relation to why the >>> URIBLs collectively wield a great deal of power in SpamAssassin

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Jeff Chan wrote: > On Thursday, February 16, 2006, 9:13:36 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: > >> I'm only presenting evidence of accuracy problems in relation to why the >> URIBLs collectively wield a great deal of power in SpamAssassin scoring. >> I'm not really complaining about uribl.com, I'm complain

Template Tags?

2006-02-17 Thread Marc Perkel
I see a section on template tags but it doesn't show what file these tags are used in. I'm trying to add the vayes score to the header. How do I do that?

Re: spamd: unauthorized connection

2006-02-17 Thread DAve
Marc Perkel wrote: DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 05:36:32PM -0800, Marc Perkel wrote: Why is spamd deciding what IP addresses are unauthorized when I told it to listen on all ports.

Re: spamd: unauthorized connection

2006-02-17 Thread Marc Perkel
DAve wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 05:36:32PM -0800, Marc Perkel wrote: Why is spamd deciding what IP addresses are unauthorized when I told it to listen on all ports. Just beca

Re: SpamD won't connect to MySQL if started via init.d

2006-02-17 Thread Glen Carreras
Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions, both on and offlist. Unfortunately nothing seems to work so I suppose I will just resort to starting spamd in another way until I find the answer. I realize this wasn't a SA problem per se, but I appreciate the time and efforts to help. Cheers, Gle

Re: spamd: unauthorized connection

2006-02-17 Thread DAve
Marc Perkel wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 05:36:32PM -0800, Marc Perkel wrote: Why is spamd deciding what IP addresses are unauthorized when I told it to listen on all ports. Just because it's li

Re: Can you read user confs from /config/$USER instead of /home/$USER?

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Macdougall
Cian Davis wrote: Still getting the same (I did confirm that the spamd process was running with the correct arguments). The problem here is that (for some reason) it's not expanding %l to the username. When you used this, did the spamd process su to the user involved? I used to always run spa

Re: Can you read user confs from /config/$USER instead of /home/$USER?

2006-02-17 Thread Cian Davis
Rick Macdougall wrote: > Cian Davis wrote: >> Rick Macdougall wrote: >> I tried this and it didn't work. I edited /etc/default/spamassassin and >> changed the options to OPTIONS="--create-prefs --max-children 5 >> --helper-home-dir --virtual-config-dir=/config/%l/.spamassassin -x" >> >> The result

Re: spamd: unauthorized connection

2006-02-17 Thread Marc Perkel
Matt Kettler wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 05:36:32PM -0800, Marc Perkel wrote: Why is spamd deciding what IP addresses are unauthorized when I told it to listen on all ports.

Re: Can you read user confs from /config/$USER instead of /home/$USER?

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Macdougall
Cian Davis wrote: Rick Macdougall wrote: I tried this and it didn't work. I edited /etc/default/spamassassin and changed the options to OPTIONS="--create-prefs --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir --virtual-config-dir=/config/%l/.spamassassin -x" The result was SA creating a directory /config/.spa

Re: scoring changes not taking effect

2006-02-17 Thread Tom Brown
You need to restart amavisd-new which uses the spamassassin-classes internally. So no need to run spamd (if you do). Applies only if you do spamchecking via amavisd-new, of course ahh OK thanks - so after a --lint i need to restart amavisd aswell - no i don't run spamd thanks

Re: scoring changes not taking effect

2006-02-17 Thread Dirk Bonengel
Hi, You need to restart amavisd-new which uses the spamassassin-classes internally. So no need to run spamd (if you do). Applies only if you do spamchecking via amavisd-new, of course Dirk Tom Brown schrieb: Hi I have been manually tweaking some rules to increase their score and then doi

scoring changes not taking effect

2006-02-17 Thread Tom Brown
Hi I have been manually tweaking some rules to increase their score and then doing a spamassassin --lint on the rules however it seems my score increases have not taken effect eg No, hits=3.675 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=[DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06=2.007, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Rune Kristian Viken
On Thursday 16 February 2006 21:05, jdow wrote: > ... >> The URL-lists are made in a different manner. >> >> Take for example - a fully legit message from one friend to another >> that contains something like this: >> >> >> Hi $name, god I'm getting tired of all the spam we're receiving about >> ht

Re: How might I catch this sort of spam?

2006-02-17 Thread Duncan Hill
On Friday 17 February 2006 07:22, Loren Wilton wrote: > Well that's too much work to turn that back into something I can run here. > It should probably have scored moderately well. > > I do notice this though: > > tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 > > Received: from -1225665360 ([

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-17 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Dallas Engelken wrote: -Original Message- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 01:09 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists... On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:42:19PM -, Dallas Engelken wrote: So.. I have mov

Re: Can you read user confs from /config/$USER instead of /home/$USER?

2006-02-17 Thread Cian Davis
Rick Macdougall wrote: > Cian Davis wrote: >> Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie wrote: >>> Cian Davis wrote: >>> Hi, I'm wondering if I can specify a different path for configs in instead of /home/$USER/.spamassassin. I want to read them from /config/$USER/.spamassassin/user_pref