Re: f-secure messaging security gateway x-series??

2005-11-23 Thread Mathias Homann
Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 23:11 schrieb jdow: > From: "Mathias Homann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > "the ProofPoint Spam Detection (TM) module uses the ProofPoint > > MLX(TM) technology for automated learning (pat.pend.)" which in > > itself doesn't tell > > ^

Re: Inconsistent Spam scores?

2005-11-23 Thread Matt Kettler
(Re-post to list. For some reason the post which quoted all of chad's email bounced back with a 10.4 score. No clue why, there's no spam quotes here, only one URIBL listed domain mentioned in the body report. One domain alone shouldn't be >10, even if it's listed in every URIBL in the universe)

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread List Mail User
>... >On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 3:33:47 AM, Leonard SA wrote: >> Hello, > >> I have had to remove spamcop from my rbl check list. they have had some >> legitimate mail servers listed recently. They had the gentoo mail list >> listed and some other important servers which i cant see why the

Re: Blacklists and SA

2005-11-23 Thread List Mail User
>... >Quin Parker wrote: >> Hello >> >> I was wondering if somebody could answer a question I have about SA's use of >> external blacklists which filter e-mail addresses. >> >> As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong), SA can be configured to >> look up lists such as those held on rfc

Fwd: Inconsistent Spam scores?

2005-11-23 Thread Chad
Missed including the list on the return ;) -- Forwarded message -- From: Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 23, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Inconsistent Spam scores? To: jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 11/23/05, jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You need to setup your trusted_networks

Re: Inconsistent Spam scores?

2005-11-23 Thread jdow
You need to setup your trusted_networks and internal_networks values to get rid of ALL_TRUSTED. These values are usually stored in the /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf file. Read the wiki regarding the trusted_networks setup. Trusted_networks is merely a short list of mailers from when you directl

Re: Do I need these rules?

2005-11-23 Thread jdow
Adding memory is generally the cheapest and simplest way to handle machine overload in most cases. One should also carefully trim the maximum number of children so that SA comfortably fits entirely in RAM without hitting the swap file. When SA hits the swap file it very suddenly becomes very very

Inconsistent Spam scores?

2005-11-23 Thread Chad
Hello! I've been googling and searching this list for a little over 2 hours now and have yet to find this problem, or a fix for it. If there is something obvious I'm missing, feel free to point me in that direction, but here goes: I recieve Spam from "Doctor" with the subject "Ultimate Online Ph

Re: [Razor-users] false positives with centos-announce list

2005-11-23 Thread Kelson
Kevin W. Gagel wrote: Checking the razor2 itself indicated that the message(s) were in-fact seen and reported as spam. Checking again later, again with razor-client (not SA) the messages were never seen at all. Regardless of the conflicting data that I'm presenting... The whole problem vanished

Re: Suddenly missing file?

2005-11-23 Thread James Lay
NewpI installed it when I installed 3.1.0. Really WEIRD. On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:01:33 -0500 Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Lay wrote: > > So today I get: > > > > spamd[13532]: Can't locate LMAP/CID2SPF.pm in @INC (@INC > > contains: ../lib /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i48

Re: Do I need these rules?

2005-11-23 Thread robert
Yes server was getting overloaded. So I went through all my old rules and deleted them. Went from 36 rules down to 15 rules. Apparently there were a couple that were obsolete. Also I noticed I had a sa-blacklist.cf file with thousands of email addresses I got from some site awhile back. It was a hu

Re: [Razor-users] false positives with centos-announce list

2005-11-23 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
>Kevin W. Gagel wrote: >> No, it doesn't as Vipul pointed out. But if your using it >> via SpamAssassin like I am then look to your Bayes >> database. Ultimately that was where my problem was. I >> kept getting accounts from Telus.net that were scoring >> high on the razor2 tests because - accordin

Re: Do I need these rules?

2005-11-23 Thread jdow
From: "Bowie Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I been trying to "optimize" SA on my system and decided to look at the rules I have that SA uses. Im using qmail with SA 3.1 on Fedora Core 2. I started SA in debug mode and noticed a bunch of rules runn

RE: [Razor-users] false positives with centos-announce list

2005-11-23 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
>On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Kevin W. Gagel announced >> authoritatively: Ultimately that was where my problem >was. I kept getting accounts from > >> Telus.net that were scoring high on the razor2 tests >> because - according to SA's bayes db - razor2 had seen >the message > >This makes no sense, I'm af

Re: Do I need these rules?

2005-11-23 Thread jdow
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I been trying to "optimize" SA on my system and decided to look at the rules I have that SA uses. Im using qmail with SA 3.1 on Fedora Core 2. I started SA in debug mode and noticed a bunch of rules running in another folder on top of what I have in my up to date rules

Re: OT: senderbase

2005-11-23 Thread DAve
Matt Kettler wrote: DAve wrote: Good afternoon, I take a look each week at senderbase to check and see what others think my network is sending out in terms of mail volume. I generally find it helpful. http://senderbase.org Anyone else using that report? I ask because I have two IPs showing u

Re: [Razor-users] false positives with centos-announce list

2005-11-23 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
>On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Kevin W. Gagel announced >> authoritatively: Ultimately that was where my problem >> was. I kept getting accounts from Telus.net that were >> scoring high on the razor2 tests because - according to >> SA's bayes db - razor2 had seen the message > >This makes no sense, I'm afra

Re: f-secure messaging security gateway x-series??

2005-11-23 Thread jdow
From: "Mathias Homann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "the ProofPoint Spam Detection (TM) module uses the ProofPoint MLX(TM) technology for automated learning (pat.pend.)" which in itself doesn't tell ^--- Somebody ought to check that statement out. Automated le

Re: OT: senderbase

2005-11-23 Thread Matt Kettler
DAve wrote: > Good afternoon, > > I take a look each week at senderbase to check and see what others think > my network is sending out in terms of mail volume. I generally find it > helpful. > > http://senderbase.org > > Anyone else using that report? I ask because I have two IPs showing up > th

OT: senderbase

2005-11-23 Thread DAve
Good afternoon, I take a look each week at senderbase to check and see what others think my network is sending out in terms of mail volume. I generally find it helpful. http://senderbase.org Anyone else using that report? I ask because I have two IPs showing up there as having excessively h

Anti-virus strategy

2005-11-23 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:07 AM -0500 Bowie Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's always good to have multiple layers. We have ClamAV on the mail server and Symantec Corporate Edition on the desktops. I haven't had any problems with Clam. We had a few Sober.U get through before t

RE: Filter not working

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Matthew van Eerde wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Here is the header of an email that was marked as spam and was moved >>> to the proper folder. (File attached) >> >> I notice the one that worked was not multipart, and the one that >> didn't work was multipart. Is

RE: Filter not working

2005-11-23 Thread robert
If your asking if this is the pattern, I never noticed it so I dont know. At this point I would assume this is true in general. Thanks Robert > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Here is the header of an email that was marked as spam and was moved >> to the proper folder. (File attached) > > I notice the

RE: Filter not working

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Here is the header of an email that was marked as spam and was moved > to the proper folder. (File attached) I notice the one that worked was not multipart, and the one that didn't work was multipart. Is this true in general? -- Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com

Re: Checking outgoing email?

2005-11-23 Thread Jason Haar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I believe Im using qmail-scanner. > > That's weird. By default Qmail-Scanner only calls SA on *incoming* mail - never outgoing! This is defined by whether or not Qmail has decided the SMTP client is a relayable address or not. You must have reconfigured Qmail-Scanner

RE: Filter not working

2005-11-23 Thread robert
Here is the header of an email that was marked as spam and was moved to the proper folder. (File attached) Thanks Robert > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if (/^X-Spam-Status: *Yes/) >> >> Attached is the header from one of the emails with the issue > > Header contains:

Re: Blacklists and SA

2005-11-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Quin Parker wrote: > Hello > > I was wondering if somebody could answer a question I have about SA's use of > external blacklists which filter e-mail addresses. > > As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong), SA can be configured to > look up lists such as those held on rfc-ignorant.org

Re: whitelisting by "rcpt to:"

2005-11-23 Thread Russ Ringer
>One thing to be wary of is if you're integrating at the MTA layer, there may be >one message with multiple different recipients. If one is whitelisted but not >the others, your tool will have to jump a few hoops to split the message into >two copies to scan one and not the other. Yes, I warned m

RE: Filter not working

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> if (/^X-Spam-Status: *Yes/) > > Attached is the header from one of the emails with the issue Header contains: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=7.0 required=3.0 Well, that line matches the regex. Can you post a header from an email that does not h

Re: whitelisting by "rcpt to:"

2005-11-23 Thread Russ Ringer
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:32:38 -0800, you wrote: >Russ Ringer wrote: >> Is it possible to whitelist by "rcpt to:" when there is nothing in the >> header to indicate the recipient? i.e. no To:, bcc:, cc:, etc. > >No. > >But you may be able to tell your MTA to put something in the header to >indicate

RE: Filter not working

2005-11-23 Thread robert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> if (/^X-Spam-Status: *Yes/) >> { >> >> to "$VHOME/Maildir/.Spam" >> >> } >> else >> { >> to "$VPOP" >> >> } >> >> Now 9 out of 10 times this works. But an email here and there gets >> tagged as spam but still gets delivered to the mailbox. Any >> sugges

Re: Suddenly missing file?

2005-11-23 Thread Matt Kettler
James Lay wrote: > So today I get: > > spamd[13532]: Can't locate LMAP/CID2SPF.pm in @INC (@INC > contains: ../lib /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i486-linux > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i486-linux > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl) > at /usr/lib/perl5/site_

Re: whitelisting by "rcpt to:"

2005-11-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Russ Ringer wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to whitelist by "rcpt to:" when there is nothing in the > header to indicate the recipient? i.e. no To:, bcc:, cc:, etc. Not in SA.. SA only receives the message. It does not receive the envelope. SA will try hard to guess from the headers (to:, bcc, c

RE: Filter not working

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > if (/^X-Spam-Status: *Yes/) > { > > to "$VHOME/Maildir/.Spam" > > } > else > { > to "$VPOP" > > } > > Now 9 out of 10 times this works. But an email here and there gets > tagged as spam but still gets delivered to the mailbox. Any > suggestions? If you

Filter not working

2005-11-23 Thread robert
I sent an email to this list about this issue last week. I was told it was the MA and not SA that is causing the issue. Now the same issue just happened and I need some help. Whats happening is an email is getting tagged as spam and according to the maildrop script Im using if the email is tagged

Suddenly missing file?

2005-11-23 Thread James Lay
So today I get: spamd[13532]: Can't locate LMAP/CID2SPF.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ../lib /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i486-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i486-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/Mail/SPF/Query.pm li

RE: whitelisting by "rcpt to:"

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Russ Ringer wrote: > Is it possible to whitelist by "rcpt to:" when there is nothing in the > header to indicate the recipient? i.e. no To:, bcc:, cc:, etc. No. But you may be able to tell your MTA to put something in the header to indicate the recipient(s) (X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], f

whitelisting by "rcpt to:"

2005-11-23 Thread Russ Ringer
Hi, Is it possible to whitelist by "rcpt to:" when there is nothing in the header to indicate the recipient? i.e. no To:, bcc:, cc:, etc. ->Russ

Re: Blacklists and SA

2005-11-23 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
>I was wondering if somebody could answer a question I have >about SA's use of external blacklists which filter e-mail >addresses. SpamAssassin does not filter. It rates and optionally provides a tagged copy of a message. You chose software to do the filtering. >As I understand it (please correc

Blacklists and SA

2005-11-23 Thread Quin Parker
Hello I was wondering if somebody could answer a question I have about SA's use of external blacklists which filter e-mail addresses. As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong), SA can be configured to look up lists such as those held on rfc-ignorant.org, match the email address and aw

RE: New Spammer?

2005-11-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Duncan Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wednesday 23 Nov 2005 15:07, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > It's always good to have multiple layers. We have ClamAV on the mail > > server and Symantec Corporate Edition on the desktops. I haven't had > > any problems with Clam. We had a few Sober.U

Re: Do I need these rules?

2005-11-23 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I been trying to "optimize" SA on my system and decided to look at the > rules I have that SA uses. Im using qmail with SA 3.1 on Fedora Core 2. I > started SA in debug mode and noticed a bunch of rules running in another > folder on top of what I have in my up to date ru

Re: why does this ONLY score "5.2"?

2005-11-23 Thread Matt Kettler
OpenMacNews wrote: > hi, > > why do these: > > http://paste.lisp.org/display/13918 > > score so low? (using SA r348087 ...) Are you using URIBLS? I got 2 surbl hits from the URL in that message esepykivikr.org.multi.surbl.org. 2100 IN TXT"Blocked, esepykivikr.org on lists [jp][ws], S

Re: f-secure messaging security gateway x-series??

2005-11-23 Thread Paolo Cravero as2594
Mathias Homann wrote: So, has anyone here seen/touched this thing before? Not that one, but touched two other vendors' appliances. For me, the only strong point with it seems to be the combined firewall/AV/spam scanner thing (waitaminute... single point of failure??), and the web admin fron

f-secure messaging security gateway x-series??

2005-11-23 Thread Mathias Homann
Hi, at work, someone dropped a flyer about the product mentioned in the subject on my desk... seems to be one of those linux-based "appliances", meaning, 1U rackmount box running linux, a smtpd of unknown brand, a spam filter, and some f-prot based mail scanner... the leaflet itself is full

why does this ONLY score "5.2"?

2005-11-23 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi, why do these: http://paste.lisp.org/display/13918 score so low? (using SA r348087 ...) given the content, i'd assume (naiively?) that the 'adult' language would/should send it off the charts ... is there a better set of rules to

Re: New Spammer?

2005-11-23 Thread Duncan Hill
On Wednesday 23 Nov 2005 15:07, Bowie Bailey wrote: > It's always good to have multiple layers.  We have ClamAV on the mail > server and Symantec Corporate Edition on the desktops.  I haven't had > any problems with Clam.  We had a few Sober.U get through before the > definitions updated, but that'

RE: New Spammer?

2005-11-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Menno van Bennekom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Heh, I use the ClamAV plugin for SA and give it a hefty score. > > That way I get the best of both worlds. Creative use of BLs also > > helps. > > Very pleased with ClamAV too, but just ClamAV is not enough for us. > The last hours some

Re: New Spammer?

2005-11-23 Thread Menno van Bennekom
> > Heh, I use the ClamAV plugin for SA and give it a hefty score. That way > I get the best of both worlds. Creative use of BLs also helps. > Very pleased with ClamAV too, but just ClamAV is not enough for us. The last hours some virus-types were not recognized by ClamAV, even not with the most re

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Leonard SA
BTW list .. Can I use the whitelisting feature eventhough I use qmail-scanner? Where would this be configured? Regards .. Leonard - Original Message - From: "Jeff Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Leonard SA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: s

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Ed Kasky wrote: > I for one would be interested to know how you implement a filter like this. > It's one of the things that keeps me from using it sometimes... procmail does wonders, just don't call vacation for anything marked as spam. We use that plus some other checks: :

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Leonard SA
Jeff, Thanks again .. Regards .. Leonard - Original Message - From: "Jeff Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Leonard SA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: spamcop.net tactics On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 5:39:05 AM, Leonard SA wrote: Jeff,

RE: Urgent pleqse --- Change rewrite_header Subject ofr one domai n

2005-11-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Michael Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Noc Phibee wrote: > > Hi > > > > please a small question but urgent ! : > > > > Actually, all spams are Tagged into the subject : > >rewrite_header Subject *SPAM* > > It's on a relay server .. > > > > Can i pat a different "rewrite_

Re: Best way to convert MySQL bayes DB to InnoDB?

2005-11-23 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Jason Levine wrote: > Howdy -- I have a question I've been hunting for the answer to for a > while, but haven't found anything definitive. I've been running > SpamAssassin for about two years now, with Sendmail as my MTA and > spamass-milter funneling all the mail into SpamAssassin, and with a MyS

RE: Do I need these rules?

2005-11-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I been trying to "optimize" SA on my system and decided to look at > the rules I have that SA uses. Im using qmail with SA 3.1 on Fedora > Core 2. I started SA in debug mode and noticed a bunch of rules > running in another folder on top of wha

Re: Urgent pleqse --- Change rewrite_header Subject ofr one domain

2005-11-23 Thread Michael Parker
Noc Phibee wrote: Hi please a small question but urgent ! : Actually, all spams are Tagged into the subject : rewrite_header Subject *SPAM* It's on a relay server .. Can i pat a different "rewrite_header Subject" speicifed for one domain ? Exemple: * => rewrite_header Subject

Do I need these rules?

2005-11-23 Thread robert
I been trying to "optimize" SA on my system and decided to look at the rules I have that SA uses. Im using qmail with SA 3.1 on Fedora Core 2. I started SA in debug mode and noticed a bunch of rules running in another folder on top of what I have in my up to date rules folder. The rules in this oth

Urgent pleqse --- Change rewrite_header Subject ofr one domain

2005-11-23 Thread Noc Phibee
Hi please a small question but urgent ! : Actually, all spams are Tagged into the subject : rewrite_header Subject *SPAM* It's on a relay server .. Can i pat a different "rewrite_header Subject" speicifed for one domain ? Exemple: * => rewrite_header Subject *SPAM* domain.c

Re: Rules for all these "wrist watch" sales?

2005-11-23 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 1:17:25 PM, Anders Norrbring wrote: > Is there any effective rule set for blocking off all these "chronometer" > and "wrist watch" spams? > Preferably one that I can add into my rules_du_jour.. If they are advertising web sites, make sure you have network tests and

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 3:33:47 AM, Leonard SA wrote: > Hello, > I have had to remove spamcop from my rbl check list. they have had some > legitimate mail servers listed recently. They had the gentoo mail list > listed and some other important servers which i cant see why they were > a

Re: Spamassassin + Exchange 2k3 + Antivirus Recommendations

2005-11-23 Thread Steven Dickenson
"Christopher Brower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/22/2005 12:03:40 am >>> Can anyone recommend a good setup for running Sapmassassin and an open source antivirus solution on a SMTP gateway infront of an Exchange box? Also could you point me to some guides? It's been awhile since I setup spam assa

Re: Using sa-learn with Notes/Domino Servers via agents

2005-11-23 Thread Paolo Cravero as2594
Not a solution but a few thoughts since we have LN here as well. Domino servers add a hell of headers to email messages that might confuse the Bayesian engine. Forwarding internet mail from one LN account to another DESTROYS RFC2822 headers. Copying preserves. LN clients can access IMAP mai

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Leonard SA
Hello, I have had to remove spamcop from my rbl check list. they have had some legitimate mail servers listed recently. They had the gentoo mail list listed and some other important servers which i cant see why they were added. Regards .. Leonard - Original Message - From: "Christo

Using sa-learn with Notes/Domino Servers via agents

2005-11-23 Thread srunschke
Hi list, I have the following setup: 2 Exim servers as incoming and outgoing relay in the DMZ using SA to tag messages. They deliver messages to 2 Domino servers in the DMZ, which then route the messages to the central Domino server for further routing. I recently had to delete the Bayes DB be

Re: problem with DCC and SA 3.1.0

2005-11-23 Thread Matthias Keller
Valery V. Bobrov wrote: Hi! I have upgraded SA up to 3.1.0 I noticed that DCC probably does not work I hope somebody help me. Have you enabled loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DCC in v310.pre ? you might also want to enable some other plugins there. They have been disabled by defaul

bayes/awl and not filtering outbound mail

2005-11-23 Thread mouss
It is tempting to avoid filtering outbound mail (with SA or other). I am assuming that outbound mail is legitimate (users are honest, and logs can be used to look for abnormal behaviour and punish the guilty). Now my question. Wouldn't that weaken Bayes filtering? I see two views: - no: afte

problem with DCC and SA 3.1.0

2005-11-23 Thread Valery V. Bobrov
Hi! I have upgraded SA up to 3.1.0   I noticed that DCC probably does not work I hope somebody help me. The problem is Before X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham  version=3.0.4 date=Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:14:50 +0300 bayes=0.  host=mx.uvttk.ru dccbbrand=EA