Mathias Homann wrote:

So, has anyone here seen/touched this thing before?

Not that one, but touched two other vendors' appliances.

For me, the only strong point with it seems to be the combined firewall/AV/spam scanner thing (waitaminute... single point of failure??), and the web admin frontend which can generate colorful pie charts about spam/virus statistics (which, of course, can be printed on overhead films and used to increase the IT budget...).

Anyone ever seen one of those?

Lately they *all* look like an amavisd-new wrapper with a commercial AV, SA- or DSPAM-based AS analysis plus all those colorful niceties that impress managers but don't actually improve performance.

One big issue with these appliances is how they decide a content is spam or not, and how you can adapt the appliance to your needs. Many of them keep a sort-of centralized "rules" (Bayes? heuristic? ...) that spreads to each appliance, so you really don't know what is behind the decisional process. That makes it hard to explain your customer why his favourite Ikea newsletter was blocked. Same goes for non-English spam/ham.

There might be other issues, but they're OT for this list.

SA rulez! :)
Paolo

PS: I asked one of those vendors (the one I sent an idea of pricings a few weeks ago) how they deal with DNS-based lists. I wanted to know if they use vendor-based DNS replicas or query public nameservers, since they advertise +100kmsgs/day. They haven't answered yet...

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