Re: [Dshield] fingerprinting servers before accepting

2004-12-01 Thread Joe Emenaker
SM wrote: At 08:54 01-12-2004, John Hardin wrote: However, this sounds like it might be useful in Spamassassin: attempt to contact the sender on port 25, and add a little to the spamminess score if the connection is refused or times out. That was the first thought through my mind when I read the o

RE: autolearn header not showing - amavis or spamassassin?

2004-12-01 Thread Kurt Buff
Thanks for the tip. However, that doesn't seem to work - still not seeing the autolearn. I'm taking this over to the amavisd-new list. > -Original Message- > From: Bill Landry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 13:26 > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subje

RE: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 14:35, Chris Santerre wrote: > We are seeing an increase in throw away domains being used to reroute > to other domains that will NEVER show up directly in a spam. All in > attempts to get passed SURBL. I'm going to bring up this idea again, in a slightly different context th

Re: Brightmail

2004-12-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:06 PM 12/1/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I think Earthlink uses Brightmail. If that is so then Brightmail >statistics are VERY bad. I doubt I had any false alarms - lost email. >But it only got about 75% or less of the spam. I used it while on the >road the last two weeks. I might comment t

Re: Brightmail

2004-12-01 Thread multimedia-fan
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:37:53 -0800, "jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think Earthlink uses Brightmail. If that is so then Brightmail >statistics are VERY bad. I doubt I had any false alarms - lost email. >But it only got about 75% or less of the spam. I used it while on the >road the last two w

Re: Rules still not hitting right

2004-12-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:31 PM 12/1/2004, Johnson, S wrote: I've got two rules next to each other in the config: body REPLICA_WATCH /replicas of rolex/i score REPLICA_WATCH 5 body SAVE_UP_TO /save up to/i score SAVE_UP_TO2 When I have a message that I've been t

Re: spamassasin help

2004-12-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:28 PM 12/1/2004, Jimmy Hayes wrote: Hi I am running SpamAssassin version 2.63 with mimedefang v 1.438. my question is lately I have been getting a lot of spam e-mails getting thorugh To the users on the network.=20 And every night I run this command on cron sa-learn --spam -C /etc/mail/spamas

Re: wich is the best milter interface for spamassassin?

2004-12-01 Thread Michael W Cocke
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:12:27 -0800, you wrote: >Matias Lopez Bergero wrote: >> I'm also running clamav with clamav-milter, and I would like to hit the >> best performance, that's why I was asking for comments :) The absolute top performance improvement that you can do to your mail server is to g

RE: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread Chris Santerre
Yeah this is a definite candidate for SURBL. This is the Huntsville-consulting spam gang: http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL20528 353+ domains diretly linked. This is going to be the next trend. The final destination of this pron spam was throatstuffers . com, but it used a throw away

spamassasin help

2004-12-01 Thread Jimmy Hayes
Hi I am running SpamAssassin version 2.63 with mimedefang v 1.438. my question is lately I have been getting a lot of spam e-mails getting thorugh To the users on the network.=20 And every night I run this command on cron sa-learn --spam -C /etc/mail/spamassassin --showdots --mbox /var/mail/bad-ma

Re: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread jdow
BAYES_00 Your Bayes filter thought there was a VERY strong indication that this message was ham. I'd suggest the filter is in serious need of training or else the message was extraordinarily well constructed. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Smart,Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Attached i

RE: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread Smart,Dan
Attached is the spam that got through. I changed the porn URL to not offend. It's a little mangled as it was forwarded by the user via Outlook, and tags got mangled by my Sanitizer. I capture the headers of all files, and here is what they look like. The bayes = 0 is what got this through. <>

RE: Rules still not hitting right

2004-12-01 Thread Yackley, Matt
A few ways to look into this...   1. Check the amavisd.conf file (should be something like /etc/amavisd.conf) for a line similar to this: # Run the daemon in the specified chroot jail if nonempty:$daemon_chroot_dir = $MYHOME;  # (default is undef, meaning: do not chroot)   2. Check for a /var

Re: autolearn header not showing - amavis or spamassassin?

2004-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: "Kurt Buff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:44 PM Subject: autolearn header not showing - amavis or spamassassin? > Another problem for me to solve > > SpamAssassin 3.0.1, amavisd-new 2.2.0 > > Amongst others, the autolearn he

RE: RulesDuJour web site?

2004-12-01 Thread Martyn Drake
Thanks to all - now up and running just fine :) Regards, Martyn Martyn Drake wrote on 01 December 2004 18:57: > Hi, > > What's happened to the RulesDuJour site? Unfortunately not able to > access it as it seems to have disapeared off the face of the Earth! > > http://www.exit0.us/ind

Re: [Dshield] fingerprinting servers before accepting

2004-12-01 Thread Robert LeBlanc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hardin wrote: | On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 03:30, Paul L Daniels wrote: | |>An interesting idea was floated by my eyeballs recently for combatting |>invalid email (especially since zombie machines are now rather |>prevailant), what if you could fingerpr

RE: Rules still not hitting right

2004-12-01 Thread Johnson, S
  Gosh… I’m not the one that set this up.  How do I know if this is the case?  It looks like the local.cf only exists in the /etc/mail/spamassassin directory.   From: Yackley, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:39 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache

Re: RulesDuJour web site?

2004-12-01 Thread Rob
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 02:25:08PM -0600, Brian Byers wrote: > Not sure what happened, but I have version 1.18 of the script. I've been > attempting to look for an update, but, as you mentioned, the site is > broken. > > http://www.cbbyers.net/rules_du_jour.txt The url that rules_du_jour checks

autolearn header not showing - amavis or spamassassin?

2004-12-01 Thread Kurt Buff
Another problem for me to solve SpamAssassin 3.0.1, amavisd-new 2.2.0 Amongst others, the autolearn header is not showing up in any email I've seen so far, although the bayes_* files are current and obviously being utilised. The following is all that shows --snip-- X-Spam-Sta

RE: Rules still not hitting right

2004-12-01 Thread Yackley, Matt
Quick question, are you running amavisd in chroot mode?  If so make sure that your chroot location for /etc/mail/spamassassin also has the updated files, then restart amavis.   -matt From: Johnson, S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:20 PMTo: Chris S

Re: RulesDuJour web site?

2004-12-01 Thread Brian Byers
Not sure what happened, but I have version 1.18 of the script. I've been attempting to look for an update, but, as you mentioned, the site is broken. http://www.cbbyers.net/rules_du_jour.txt -- Brian Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Martyn Drake wrote: > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:57

RE: Rules still not hitting right

2004-12-01 Thread Johnson, S
  Yes, I restarted the whole server…   The configs are in the local.cf file.   From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:03 PM To: Johnson, S; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: Rules still not hitting right   Yes it does

Re: [Dshield] fingerprinting servers before accepting

2004-12-01 Thread SM
Hi John, At 08:54 01-12-2004, John Hardin wrote: Interesting idea. It sounds a little heavy to be doing for every inbound message, though, and it assumes that you're letting fingerprinting traffic out of your network - I, for example, block all NetBIOS and similar ports at my boundary, so fingerpri

RE: Rules still not hitting right

2004-12-01 Thread Chris Santerre
Yes it does require spamd to be restarted. Having restarted it and it still isn't working must be something else. Where exactly are these rules located?   --Chris -Original Message-From: Johnson, S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:40 PMTo: Chris S

RE: Rules still not hitting right

2004-12-01 Thread Johnson, S
Does adding a rule require restarting?  From what I was reading, all you needed to do is run spammassassin –lint.  But I’m not 100% sure on that…   Anyway, I did reboot yesterday afternoon just to be sure and it’s still missing the messages…   From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Rules still not hitting right

2004-12-01 Thread Chris Santerre
I believe you have to restart Amavis?   --Chris -Original Message-From: Johnson, S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:31 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Rules still not hitting right I'm now running Spam Assassin 3.1   I've

Rules still not hitting right

2004-12-01 Thread Johnson, S
I’m now running Spam Assassin 3.1   I’ve got two rules next to each other in the config:   body REPLICA_WATCH  /replicas of rolex/i score REPLICA_WATCH 5   body SAVE_UP_TO /save up to/i score SAVE_UP_TO    2     When I have a me

Re: wich is the best milter interface for spamassassin?

2004-12-01 Thread Kelson
Matias Lopez Bergero wrote: I'm also running clamav with clamav-milter, and I would like to hit the best performance, that's why I was asking for comments :) MIMEDefang will tie into both SpamAssassin and ClamAV, plus any of a dozen other virus scanners, plus run its own tests. You can configure

RulesDuJour web site?

2004-12-01 Thread Martyn Drake
Hi, What's happened to the RulesDuJour site? Unfortunately not able to access it as it seems to have disapeared off the face of the Earth! http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour redirects to beta.exit0.us and that doesn't exist as a host: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [~]# host beta.exit0.us H

Re[3]: Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS 3.0

2004-12-01 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Robert, Wednesday, December 1, 2004, 10:29:12 AM, you wrote: JRF> Could the SARE team provide a guideline regarding the best SARE JRF> and WIKI rules sets to work in an environment that supports the JRF> following languages? Unfortunately, the SARE team is heavily North American, and as su

Re[2]: Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS 3.0

2004-12-01 Thread Johnson, Robert F
>-Original Message- >From: Robert Menschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:56 AM >To: Johnson, Robert F; users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re[2]: Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS >3.0 > >Hello Robert, > >Tuesday, November 30, 20

RE: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Martin Hepworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 4:39 AM >To: Smart,Dan >Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Image Composition Analysis > > >Dan > >I find the surbl.org URIRBL list provides very good protection against >

Re[2]: Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS 3.0

2004-12-01 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Robert, Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 9:25:52 PM, Daniel wrote: DQ> The problem doesn't sound like it's SpamAssassin despite the subject DQ> line of this email, rather it's third-party rulesets. I agree. DQ> "Johnson, Robert F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Based on spt checking of a coup

Re: spamd performance problems - again

2004-12-01 Thread Michael Parker
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:06:12AM -0600, Smart,Dan wrote: > I believe a SPAMD problem has be pinpointed with SMP kernels using > hyperthreading. Look through the bug list. > Huh? I disagree. I push 4-5 msgs a sec through my hyperthreaded machine without a problem. Please do not spread such FU

Re: [Dshield] fingerprinting servers before accepting

2004-12-01 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:05, Jason Philbrook wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:54:00AM -0800, John Hardin wrote: > > However, this sounds like it might be useful in Spamassassin: attempt to > > contact the sender on port 25, and add a little to the spamminess score > > if the connection is refuse

RE: spamd performance problems - again

2004-12-01 Thread Smart,Dan
I believe a SPAMD problem has be pinpointed with SMP kernels using hyperthreading. Look through the bug list. <> > -Original Message- > From: Jason Philbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:59 AM > To: Dimitry Peisakhov > Cc: 'users@spamassassi

Re: [Dshield] fingerprinting servers before accepting

2004-12-01 Thread Jason Philbrook
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:54:00AM -0800, John Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 03:30, Paul L Daniels wrote: > > An interesting idea was floated by my eyeballs recently for combatting > > invalid email (especially since zombie machines are now rather > > prevailant), what if you could fingerpr

Re: spamd performance problems - again

2004-12-01 Thread Jason Philbrook
While the queue is building up, run a top and see what's holding things up. dstat is another handy program for this sort of work. Since it's a dual processor, I'd suggest building a 2.6 series kernel for it, since that handles smp much nicer. On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:14:02PM +1100, Dimitry Pe

Re: [Dshield] fingerprinting servers before accepting

2004-12-01 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 03:30, Paul L Daniels wrote: > An interesting idea was floated by my eyeballs recently for combatting > invalid email (especially since zombie machines are now rather > prevailant), what if you could fingerprint the sending server and > (say) deny all Win XP/95/98 machines fro

Re: New Hardware

2004-12-01 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, December 1, 2004, 8:17:14 AM, Ronan Ronan wrote: > how do i check whether SA is using > the locally stored file or whether is still querying the surbl.org DNS? > Is there an easy way if your not a bind / DNS guru? A dig may tell what name server it thinks it's using. Jeff C. -- Je

Re: New Hardware

2004-12-01 Thread Ronan
Martin Hepworth wrote: Ronan wrote: Ok well I hounded or DNS guys to finally put multi.surbls.org into the dns(as a master), watched him HUP named and then should i notice a difference?? im still getting 10+ seconds scantime on some messages.. how do i tell if its working? well granted i sh

Re: wich is the best milter interface for spamassassin?

2004-12-01 Thread Matias Lopez Bergero
Matt Kettler wrote: At 01:34 PM 11/30/2004 -0300, you wrote: I'm running SA with sendmail using milter-spamc to connect them. It's working ok, but I would like to know about your experiences using SA and milter, and which one you think is the best to use. I have not seeing many people trough the

Re: New Hardware

2004-12-01 Thread Martin Hepworth
Ronan wrote: Ok well I hounded or DNS guys to finally put multi.surbls.org into the dns(as a master), watched him HUP named and then should i notice a difference?? im still getting 10+ seconds scantime on some messages.. how do i tell if its working? message size issues??? if you can trap on

Re: how to unsubscribe

2004-12-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Lito A. Lampitoc wrote: > I'm having problem unsubscribing to this list, I send e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it > says "this list" is users@spamassassin.apache.org not [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I think you just have the wrong list. Try again using the users list. > I'm sure that this the e-mai

Re: New Hardware

2004-12-01 Thread Ronan
Rick Beebe wrote: Ronan wrote: Hey list, I am in the quite sureal situation of being given a blank cheque by my boss to buy 2 new servers for SA. They were so impressed with the upgrade to v3 + SURIBLS et al that when i said that our current setup was hitting load max they found some cas

Re: New Hardware

2004-12-01 Thread Rick Beebe
Ronan wrote: Hey list, I am in the quite sureal situation of being given a blank cheque by my boss to buy 2 new servers for SA. They were so impressed with the upgrade to v3 + SURIBLS et al that when i said that our current setup was hitting load max they found some cash for me... :D We

Re: wich is the best milter interface for spamassassin?

2004-12-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:34 PM 11/30/2004 -0300, you wrote: I'm running SA with sendmail using milter-spamc to connect them. It's working ok, but I would like to know about your experiences using SA and milter, and which one you think is the best to use. I have not seeing many people trough the list using milter-sp

how to unsubscribe

2004-12-01 Thread Lito A. Lampitoc
I'm having problem unsubscribing to this list, I send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it says [EMAIL PROTECTED] was not on the announce mailing list when I received your request and is not a subscriber of this list. I'm sure that this the e-mail address that I used. Anyone?

Re: wich is the best milter interface for spamassassin?

2004-12-01 Thread Andy Jezierski
news <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/30/2004 01:34:59 PM: > Hello, > > I'm running SA with sendmail using milter-spamc to connect them. > > It's working ok, but I would like to know about your experiences using > SA and milter, and which one you think is the best to use. I have not > seeing m

RE: Brightmail

2004-12-01 Thread Gray, Richard
Thanks everyone for your useful and informative input. We are currently re-evaluating our email services and your feedback has been a great help. Richard --- This email from dns has been validated by dnsMSS Managed Email Security and is free from

Re: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread Martin Hepworth
Dan I find the surbl.org URIRBL list provides very good protection against this kind of message, along with othe rules in www.rulesemporium.com I don't recall seeing one slip through for ages.. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Smart,Dan wrote

Re: SA 3.0 lint error

2004-12-01 Thread Martin Hepworth
Kurt yeah ran into a similar problem with --lint option...not very nice error messages. Must check bug list one this one... I'd double check all the syntax for the options against the docs... -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Kurt Buff wrote: A

Exchange 5.5 on W2K with Exchange Event Sink

2004-12-01 Thread Daniel Wilkins
I'm completely new to Perl, but that didn't put me off from following the guide on this page: http://www.spamblogging.com/archives/69.html   Now I am assuming this works with Exchange 5.5 on Windows 2000? I've followed this page through, but when I run Install_ESA_Sink.bat I get nothi

Re: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 01:27 pm, Smart,Dan wrote: > Catching image only E-mail with pornographic images is really difficult. > My users are offended when they get one, and wonder how I could not catch > it. Explaining that the document was text, filled with bayes poison, and > the one porn

Re: 25 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list?

2004-12-01 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 10:57 am, Jerry wrote: > >>I have some AWL's listed in my local.cf. > > > > You do? That's not likely true.. > > In my local.cf I have the line"whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > Does this not keep all messages coming from our domain clear from being > marked as s

Re: spamd performance problems - again

2004-12-01 Thread Gavin Cato
Could your MTA be the bottleneck? On 1/12/04 5:14 PM, "Dimitry Peisakhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I wrote to the list a few weeks ago asking for advice on spamd > performance. I got some, and have implemented it, but dont know if i'm > seeing a performance improvement. The p

Re: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread jdow
I wonder what kind of a load it is on the filtering machine. {^_-} - Original Message - From: "Smart,Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Messagelabs made a big deal of their option of using First 4 Internet's > Image Composition Analysis tool to detect pornographic images. Is anyone in > the ope

Re: Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS 3.0

2004-12-01 Thread alan premselaar
Daniel Quinlan wrote: "Johnson, Robert F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Based on spt checking of a couple of dozen examples, I didn't see any significant pattern of out of the box rules being involved, mostly SARE or WIKI rules. The most heavily implicated were the following: (MANGLED and SARE_SUB_

Re: Brightmail

2004-12-01 Thread jdow
I think Earthlink uses Brightmail. If that is so then Brightmail statistics are VERY bad. I doubt I had any false alarms - lost email. But it only got about 75% or less of the spam. I used it while on the road the last two weeks. I might comment that I was very unimpressed. {^_^} - Original Me

spamd performance problems - again

2004-12-01 Thread Dimitry Peisakhov
Hi Guys, I wrote to the list a few weeks ago asking for advice on spamd performance. I got some, and have implemented it, but dont know if i'm seeing a performance improvement. The performance i'm getting is far from other people are reporting, it seems. I'm running spamassassin 3.0.1 wit

Re: Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS 3.0

2004-12-01 Thread Daniel Quinlan
"Johnson, Robert F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Based on spt checking of a couple of dozen examples, I didn't see any > significant pattern of out of the box rules being involved, mostly SARE > or WIKI rules. The most heavily implicated were the following: > (MANGLED and SARE_SUB_CASH_CHAR were

RE: Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS 3.0

2004-12-01 Thread Johnson, Robert F
>-Original Message- >From: alan premselaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:55 PM >To: Johnson, Robert F >Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS 3.0 > >Johnson, Robert F wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I h

Re: Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS 3.0

2004-12-01 Thread alan premselaar
Johnson, Robert F wrote: Hi, I have been having a high occurrence of Japanese false positives since upgrading from Spam Assassin 2.64 on RedHat 7.3 with MimeDefang 2.31 to Spam Assassin 3.01 on RedHat Workstation 3.0 installed site wide via MimeDefang 2.44. I am wondering if this is due to the pro

Japanese False Postives with Spam Assassin 3.01 and RH WS 3.0

2004-12-01 Thread Johnson, Robert F
Hi, I have been having a high occurrence of Japanese false positives since upgrading from Spam Assassin 2.64 on RedHat 7.3 with MimeDefang 2.31 to Spam Assassin 3.01 on RedHat Workstation 3.0 installed site wide via MimeDefang 2.44. I am wondering if this is due to the problem with Red Hat 9.0 Un

Re: selected rulesets for better performance

2004-12-01 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mine were all discussions of spam :( doh! I'll have to remember -- *never* mark spam discussions as ham, even if you can't spot a spamsign. - --j. Theo Van Dinter writes: > On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 01:19:49AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: > > Quite f

Re: Sensible way to use SpamCop reporting?

2004-12-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:44 PM 11/30/2004, Daniel Quinlan wrote: Carlos Perez wrote: >> Feature request to SA developers: turn off default SC reporting in the next >> release. No need to consume bandwidth as the generic reporting address is >> not used. I regularly talk to Julian about the reporting and it *is* b

Re: Sensible way to use SpamCop reporting?

2004-12-01 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Carlos Perez wrote: >> Feature request to SA developers: turn off default SC reporting in the next >> release. No need to consume bandwidth as the generic reporting address is >> not used. I regularly talk to Julian about the reporting and it *is* being used. It just took Julian and the SpamCop

RE: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:15 PM 11/30/2004, Smart,Dan wrote: So Razor differs from DCC in that respect. Razor and DCC differ quite a bit when you get into the details. Particularly now that razor has the e8 algorithm, which is more like SURBL than it is like DCC. I gave up on Razor long ago due to delays due to sl

RE: Image Composition Analysis

2004-12-01 Thread Smart,Dan
So Razor differs from DCC in that respect. I gave up on Razor long ago due to delays due to slow Razor response, and repeated Razor outages. Is it more reliable today? <> > -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:12