Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Doug
On 05/16/2014 03:12 AM, mt wrote: On 14/5/14 at 12:17 PM, j...@jt-mj.net (Julian Thomas) wrote: As a longtime Star office and now OO user, I am new to styles. I'd still like to see some helpful information on how to get started with styles (better than 'my pets' and 'my cats'; [I tried thos

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread James Knott
On 05/16/2014 09:29 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: > If people don't want to learn how to use Writer the way it was designed, they > might be better off with some simpler tool. Notepad? ;-) --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Julian Thomas
> But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people > like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the programmer's > job to consider it from the user's perspective... or shouldn't it?? On 16 May 2014, at 03:12, mt wrote: > Sorry I can't help Julian, I ha

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread japples
Thank you for the links. I understood less than 5% of what I read. Not sure if I gleamed this correctly or not; however, it seems WP and OO are different platforms (?) so adding a reveal code feature would require OO to be totally re-written. Personally, I find reveal codes very helpful yet

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Friday 16 May 2014 10:28:44 PM Julian Thomas wrote: > > But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people > > like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the > > programmer's job to consider it from the user's perspective... or > > shouldn't it?? > On 16 Ma

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Julian Thomas
On 15 May 2014, at 07:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > We are preparing new documentation under the Apache License here: > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Writer/Styles > Feel free to review and improve it. If you need a wiki account, just ask here > (this applies to everyb

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Johansson
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:12 AM, mt wrote: > To those who chimed in to justify styles: it is quite obvious to me that you > are missing the point. For starters, it sounds like you don't really know > WordPerfect, and imagine "Reveal codes" to be something other than it was. I can't speak for the

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thursday 15 May 2014 09:03:13 PM Jim McLaughlin wrote: > the overwhelming majority of posters appear to desire the > WP/Corel "Reveal Codes" option Really? I don't mean to be contentious, but I didn't see an overwhelming majority on either side. > If the programmers behind OO want to provid

openoffice4.1.0

2014-05-16 Thread lam maizy
Dear sir, I had upgrade the version of open office 4.1.0, after installed it when I open the old file, somethings can't run as the same before, example the company head address, how can I do to fit it properly, thank you for your attention. --- List Condu

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Jim McLaughlin
This has been a very interesting thread. It has also been the single most posted to thread I've seen in the six or so months I've been a subscrber to this group. What fascinates me is that other than the three defender's of OO "orthodoxy" regarding "styles" ve. alternative methods, like a WP "re

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Felmon Davis
On Wed, 14 May 2014, Brian Barker wrote: [...] Have you ever been asked to double-space a document? Probably. Has anyone ever asked you instead to set double spacing at the beginning of the document and then turn it off at the end? Of course not: that's not how people think and speak!

Re: Problem with impress

2014-05-16 Thread 許哲崇
Please try 'Character Map' in 'System Tools' in 'Accessories' in Windows start menu. Character Map can put much more characters into your file than keyboard. 2014-05-03 20:52 GMT+08:00 Brian Barker : > At 19:23 03/05/2014 +0700, René or Brigit Noname wrote: > >> In Impress I can not found this i

Re: OpenOffice mac

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Johansson
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > It is a purely technical choice we had to make to take advantage of 64-bit > Mac OS X applications and avoid the dependency on now deprecated build > tools. It was discussed at length on the dev list, since it was clear that > we needed to

Re: not working version of OO4.1.0

2014-05-16 Thread Jim McLaughlin
Google 401.msi The msi extension is a Microsift Installer file. I found a series of conversations back in November, 2013 regarding 401.msi errors for OO with a purported link to a file source to fix thise errors. Following is what I found: *openoffice401*.*msi* download - 2shared

Re: not working version of OO4.1.0

2014-05-16 Thread Maurice Dorscheidt
Hello, The message says: failure 1316 and due to this I can not uninstall the older version of OO4.0.1 due to the same error I can not install the newest version 4.1.0 I tried to uninstall but it requests the missing 401.msi. I don't know what to do? Maurice Carson Chittom skrev 15-5-201

Re: PASSWORD CHANGE

2014-05-16 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 07/05/2014 00:50, Kay Schenk a écrit : On 05/06/2014 03:24 PM, JOSEPH A. BUDRECKI JR wrote: HELLO I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CHANGE MY PASSWORD AND CAN'T GET INTO A LINK TO DO THIS . IS THERE ANY HELP AVAILABLE FOR THIS . JAB What system does this password apply to? For the record, you'v

Fwd: not working version of OO4.1.0

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Groenescheij
As your not subscribed you will not see any of the responses you question. Original Message Subject:not working version of OO4.1.0 Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 14:02:30 +0200 From: Maurice Dorscheidt Reply-To: users@openoffice.apache.org To: users@openoffice.apa

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread circulars
Thinking on, all of the attributes of a style are listed in one of the organizer tab in the 'paragraph style' dialog, which would seem to go quite some way towards meeting the needs of those who liked the reveal codes feature. (It is accessible on a mac by control clicking in the style concerned

Re: not working version of OO4.1.0

2014-05-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 14 May 2014 14:02:30 +0200 Maurice Dorscheidt wrote: > Hello, > > I am getting a bit >:o . I downloaded the newest version of OO 4.1.0 > because the older version said: new update available. since I have > downloaded the new file NOTHING works any more. > I can not install OO because o

Reveal Codes Query

2014-05-16 Thread japples
Does a list exist for OO users to vote for proposed future functionalities? I would like to vote for Reveal Codes. Reveal Codes is a very useful tool. It works independently of the "Style rules" and does not require the user to take time to search "style rules" then create or edit (causes ch

Re: OpenOffice mac

2014-05-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 12/05/2014 mt wrote: On 8/5/14 at 7:33 PM, der_...@rocketmail.com (der_ron) wrote: Please could you make new releases available on mac osx 10.6? 10.6 is 5 years old ... Is there somewhere an explanation of what "older" Mac users are missing out on? It is a purely technical choice we had to

Re: Link a cell in spreadsheet to a folder in 'my docs'

2014-05-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 12/05/2014 Bentalls Bracknell wrote: Is it possible to change a cell to a button and link to a folder in 'my docs' please? To link to a folder, use Insert - Hyperlink and use "file:///" as target. You can then refine it to specify the exact folder. You can probably turn this into a button

Re: OPENOFFICE USERS LIST -- PLEASE READ

2014-05-16 Thread sam zeleski
Thanks. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > The Apache mailing lists have been down due to a hardware failure. > More information can be found on the ASF Infrastructure blog here: > > https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/mail_outage > > If you are reading this note that means th

Re: Unable to Complete Registration

2014-05-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 14 May 2014 17:21:00 -0700 Robert Palmer wrote: > Dear Users: >I have been unable to complete registration the the > Open Office Community Forum. I have registered under the name Bindyi, at > address . I cannot reregister because the email address is > in use, b

Re: Saving word processor text:

2014-05-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 15 May 2014 08:40:08 -0400 "Michael" wrote: > When I save my work in the Open Office word processor it becomes distorted. I > use win 7 Home Edition. What could be the possible cause for this. I can save > Open Office templates and other work, just not the word processor text. > Please

Re: Rory Server Failure

2014-05-16 Thread japples
I got impatient - how do I resubscribe to the list? Thank you Jack Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2014 17:21:00 -0700 Robert Palmer wrote: Dear Users: I have been unable to complete registration the the Open Office Community Forum. I have registered under the

Re: Suggestion

2014-05-16 Thread Brian Barker
At 18:03 15/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote: I'm simply asking that user perspective is taken into consideration at least as much as the programmer's own. The starting point ought always to be that computers are there to aid humans. And not all humans take to computing as well as programme

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
By the way, the idea of a Reveal Codes feature goes way back - over a decade, in fact: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3395 And a discussion of the issues involved with implementing it: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Reveal_Codes_-_Alternative_for_OOo_Writer Other discussion at

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread James Plante
+1 on that, Bruce. I've got a small stash of letters, memos, and technical docs (many just for my own use) that I keep; some of these were crafted in the 1.x version of OpenOffice. Most are version 3.x templates, though. They all still work, just as you describe. Learning to use templates does

Open Office updating

2014-05-16 Thread Andrew Allison
Updating Open Office is becoming a nightmare. First, the damned update doesn't recognize my preference to install only Writer and Calc but forces me to custom installation. Worse ye, when attempting to install, it aborts due to the fact that there are previous-version startup menu programs runn

Saving word processor text:

2014-05-16 Thread Michael
When I save my work in the Open Office word processor it becomes distorted. I use win 7 Home Edition. What could be the possible cause for this. I can save Open Office templates and other work, just not the word processor text. Please respond ASAP. Thank You!

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Dan Lewis
On 05/14/2014 10:17 PM, Julian Thomas wrote: On 14 May 2014, at 09:38, mt wrote: While I have learned how to (use and) appreciate the Styles features, I agree that not everything in every given text document is prone to being "styled". As a longtime Star office and now OO user, I am new to s

Unable to Complete Registration

2014-05-16 Thread Robert Palmer
Dear Users: I have been unable to complete registration the the Open Office Community Forum. I have registered under the name Bindyi, at address . I cannot reregister because the email address is in use, but the link to complete registration does not reach my email inbox.

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Johansson
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: > What fascinates me is that other than the three defender's of OO > "orthodoxy" regarding "styles" ve. alternative methods, like a WP "reveal > codes" approach, the overwhelming majority of posters appear to desire the > WP/Corel "Reveal Co

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thursday 15 May 2014 06:03:34 PM mt wrote: > I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm simply asking that user > perspective is taken into consideration at least as much as the > programmer's own. So far as I'm concerned, anything that saves me time and effort is taking my perspective as a user into

Second attempt to send

2014-05-16 Thread Art9ca
X May 15, 2014 Dear Ms/Mr? Carson, (at car...@wistly.net) IF YOU CAN THINK OF ANY EARTHLY EXCUSE NOT TO REPLY TO THIS LETTER, PLEASE DO SO. Thank you very much for your prompt, and comprehensibl

Re: not working version of OO4.1.0

2014-05-16 Thread Brian Barker
At 14:02 14/05/2014 +0200, Maurice Dorscheidt wrote: I am getting a bit >:o . I downloaded the newest version of OO 4.1.0 because the older version said: new update available. since I have downloaded the new file NOTHING works any more. I can not install OO because of a fail 1316 some windows i

Re: not working version of OO4.1.0

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Groenescheij
Under Windows you need to end the soffice.bin and / or soffice.exe processes before you can install or uninstall OpenOffice. On 14-5-2014 22:02, Maurice Dorscheidt wrote: Hello, I am getting a bit >:o . I downloaded the newest version of OO 4.1.0 because the older version said: new update ava

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 14 May 2014 06:38:37 PM Doug wrote: it is hardly worth the effort for the average memo writer, letter > writer, or even article writer. It would be like a numismatist learning > metallurgy! When I first started using OpenOffice.org well over a decade ago, I sat down and figured all

Re: Please remove me from the email list. thank you.

2014-05-16 Thread 許哲崇
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Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread mt
On 14/5/14 at 4:12 AM, bbyfi...@axion.net (Bruce Byfield) wrote: On Wednesday 14 May 2014 05:29:45 PM Brian Barker wrote: At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote: In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to th

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Julian Thomas wrote: As a longtime Star office and now OO user, I am new to styles. I'd still like to see some helpful information on how to get started with styles (better than 'my pets' and 'my cats'; [I tried those tutorials and they didn't work very well for me]) and a reference. We are pr

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread mt
On 14/5/14 at 12:17 PM, j...@jt-mj.net (Julian Thomas) wrote: As a longtime Star office and now OO user, I am new to styles. I'd still like to see some helpful information on how to get started with styles (better than 'my pets' and 'my cats'; [I tried those tutorials and they didn't work v