HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

2024-03-24 Thread Michael Hennebry
I've been trying to get an HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt to boot from dvd. So far no luck. I've managed to get DVD listed as the first boot entry for both UEFI and legacy. The machine seems to try and fail. The error messages go by rather fast. I think I've seem things like "invalid header" and "no such

Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
Thanks folks. Disabling UEFI mode did the trick, though I do not understand why it was necessary. I thought that recent Fedora DVDs worked with both legacy and UEFI. The Fedora-WS-Live-39-1.5 DVD does have an EFI directory. I didn't get a grub menu until disabling UEFI. -- Michael henne...@mai

Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, Thomas Cameron wrote: Fedora can install on either legacy BIOS mode or modern UEFI. But when it installs on UEFI systems, it creates a special partition mounted on /boot/efi. If you boot a system which was installed in BIOS mode in UEFI mode, it doesn't see that partition a

Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2024-03-25 at 11:07 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1 What's that about? My guess is that nvm stands for non-volatile memory. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental tech

Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

2024-03-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 3/25/24 08:21, Michael Hennebry wrote: Thanks folks. Disabling UEFI mode did the trick, though I do not understand why it was necessary. I thought that recent Fedora DVDs worked with both legacy and UEFI. The Fedora-WS-Live-39-1.5 DVD does have an EFI

Failed to find a suitable stage1 device

2024-04-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
While trying to install from Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-39-1.5.iso , I got the following: Failed to find a suitable stage1 device: EFI System Partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; EFI System Partition cannot be of type None; EFI System Partition cannot be of type NTFS; EFI System Par

Re: Failed to find a suitable stage1 device

2024-04-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: The efi partition probably needs to be bigger than that, but it also has to be mounted at /boot/efi as indicated. Ah! With custom partitioning, anaconda needs to be explicitly told the EFI partition is the EFI partition. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.nd

Re: Failed to find a suitable stage1 device

2024-04-10 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: The efi partition probably needs to be bigger than that, but it also has to be mounted at /boot/efi as indicated. Ah! With custom partitioning, anaconda needs to be explicitly told the EFI partition is the

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024, George N. White III wrote: There are things Wayland won't permit (xeyes), and things that are yet to implemented. The latter may not get much attention if they aren't I'll bite: Wassa matter with xeyes? -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. The

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2024-04-25 at 16:00 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: I'll bite: Wassa matter with xeyes? My guess would be that something monitoring mouse movements when those mouse movements could be related to another app is considered insecure. Wel

Re: Fedora 40 is available

2024-04-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2024-04-26 at 08:22 +0930, Tim via users wrote: as far as xz, for F40, the affected version was only in updates- testing Thanks.  Also wondering how far back the breach went.  I remember reading that the person had being playing the lon

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
any time. Michael Hennebry: Not obvious. Presumably most GUIs would need to monitor the mouse. Presumably most GUIs would be started by the owner of the mouse. If xeyes is not allowed, presumably gnome-screenshot --include-pointer is not allowed either. Is it? If the issue is looking outside

Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs

getting out of bridge mode

2024-05-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
I'm running F38 with an Arris router provided by Midcontinent. The connection is by ethernet cable. Somehow the router got into bridge mode which turns off wifi. I've tried to login to turn off bridge mode. No go. I eventually get a popup saying the operation timed out. After dismissing the popup,

Re: getting out of bridge mode

2024-05-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 21 May 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: You probably need your ISP to do that. Once it's in bridge mode, it's basically invisible. Whatever device is connected to it has a direct internet connection now. You might be able to access it if you can figure out the IP address. Do you remember w

Re: getting out of bridge mode

2024-05-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 22 May 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/21/24 11:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: You probably need your ISP to do that.  Once it's in bridge mode, it's basically invisible.  Whatever device is connected to it has a direct internet conn

Re: getting out of bridge mode

2024-05-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
Hard reset did the trick. Apparently power cycling does not do a hard reset. Bridge mode is gone and I can login. Thanks folks. Time for a nap. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goa

Re: getting out of bridge mode

2024-05-27 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 22 May 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: Hard reset did the trick. Apparently power cycling does not do a hard reset. Bridge mode is gone and I can login. Actually there was still a problem. Even though Wifi was back on, the router was still not connecting to the Midco-tivo. Made no sense

Re: Thunderbird - Wayland / other apps

2024-06-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, Stephen Morris wrote: I'm not sure this is helpful, but it may be an attempt to emulate windows. I have a similar issue under Windows 10 where all apps, not relative to the screen saver, when minimised and subsequently maximised display on the monitor configured as the pri

password issue with f40

2024-06-19 Thread Michael Hennebry
I recently installed F40 from DVD. F40 and I are having a difference of opinion regarding what password I gave the initial user. F40 is winning. I find it hard to believe I typed in the same wrong password twice, but it's F40's opinion that counts. I try to login: click on the user and type in my

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-19 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 12:24:48 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: My usual strategy is to boot a live disk and to edit the passwd and shadow files directly. My strategy is to boot a live cd, then chroot into the copy on disk and use the passwd command

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-19 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024, Barry wrote: You could login at a console and eliminate the gui as a problem. Type alt-ctrl-f3 to get a console. Thank you for that suggestion. I could login from a console. Clearly the problem was not my password. Auto-relabel did not get me back to the gui, but just getti

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-19 Thread Michael Hennebry
I just discovered something interesting: None of the accounts on my machine will login with Xorg. The option is offered, but is does not work. For F40, I had selected gnome-classic with Xorg. New accounts defaulted to gnome with Wayland. When I made a new hennebry account, even with an old home di

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 20 Jun 2024, Roger Heflin wrote: You would need to find the log file that starts up Xorg after you login it. There are a number of things that can be set wrong and/or missing that will cause Xorg to attempt to start and fail and exit like this. F39 puts the log file here on my machine

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
The mail server I use for fedora is not mine and it was down for a bit. On Fri, 21 Jun 2024, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2024-06-20 at 00:30 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: I just discovered something interesting: None of the accounts on my machine will login with Xorg. The option is offered

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 21 Jun 2024, Tim via users wrote: Tim: Michael Hennebry wrote: I could not login. The screen would blink. Sometimes I would briefly see a cursor. I'd be back at the login screen. [ 40469.778] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/home/hennebry/.local/share/xorg/

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
From /home/hennebry/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log [ 81949.159] (WW) glamor requires at least 128 instructions (64 reported) [ 81949.159] (EE) modeset(0): Failed to initialize glamor at ScreenInit() time. [ 81949.159] (EE) Fatal server error: [ 81949.159] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for drive

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
A bit more info: hennebry@fedora:~$ glxinfo -B name of display: :0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer): Vendor: Mesa Project (0x8086) Device: i915 (chipset: Q33) (0x29d2) Version: 24.1.1 Accelerated: yes Video memory: 38

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 21 Jun 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: Possibly related: totem does not play movies. totem complains that it cannot initialize openGL support. Correction: could not initialise openGL support I've installed pretty much everything I can think of, including *opengl* , *openGL* and

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 21 Jun 2024, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2024-06-21 at 09:44 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 21 Jun 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: Possibly related: totem does not play movies. totem complains that it cannot initialize openGL support. Correction: could not initi

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-23 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 20 Jun 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 20 Jun 2024, Roger Heflin wrote: You would need to find the log file that starts up Xorg after you login it. There are a number of things that can be set wrong and/or missing that will cause Xorg to attempt to start and fail and exit like

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-24 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 24 Jun 2024, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-06-23 at 17:54 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: Strange that firefox can play it, but totem cannot. AFAIK Firefox has its own built-in codecs, while totem uses the gstreamer library and plugins. Here's what I have:

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 24 Jun 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/24/24 5:58 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2024, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Note that gstreamer1-plugins-ugly is from RPMfusion because of licensing issues. # dnf search -v plugins-ugly Have it now, but it did not help. Any

brlaser fails to build

2024-06-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
I recently installed F40. My Brother HL-L2360DW printer is one of the few that fedora linus's does not handle by default. In the past, brlaser, https://github.com/pdewacht/brlaser , has helped me out of that difficulty. This time, no go: Despite doing a sudo dnf install 'cups*' , make tells gives

Re: brlaser fails to build

2024-06-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 Jun 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: I recently installed F40. My Brother HL-L2360DW printer is one of the few that fedora linus's does not handle by default. In the past, brlaser, https://github.com/pdewacht/brlaser , has helped me out of that difficulty. This time, no go: De

Re: brlaser fails to build

2024-06-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 29 Jun 2024, Lukas Middendorf wrote: On 28/06/2024 23:32, Michael Hennebry wrote: I recently installed F40. My Brother HL-L2360DW printer is one of the few that fedora linus's does not handle by default. In the past, brlaser, https://github.com/pdewacht/brlaser , has helped me o

Re: brlaser fails to build

2024-06-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 Jun 2024, Jerry James wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 3:47?PM Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 28 Jun 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: I recently installed F40. My Brother HL-L2360DW printer is one of the few that fedora linus's does not handle by default. In the past, brlaser,

Re: crazy dependencies

2024-07-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 1 Jul 2024, Lukas Middendorf wrote: It's likely some update of the evolution package that makes it depend on the gstreamer plugins now (that error proves that the dependency is real). You could not have avoided that by not installing the gstreamer plugins. Installing or updating evolut

Re: make a bootable dvd

2024-07-08 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 8 Jul 2024, Klaus-Peter Schrage via users wrote: The OP definitely asked for a tool to create a bootable dvd. With a gui, this may be done through k3b. As a commandline tool, wodim should work, even the dd command: dd used to work. I've even used cp. It's been a while. So far as I kno

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-16 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, Jeffrey Walton wrote: That's called an Appeal to Authority. On the password expiration item, the authority was the DoD. It is a fallacious argument. They should have appealed to a god, like Yahweh, Jesus or Allah. They would get more blind followers. Or Kahan. Appeal to au

Re:

2024-07-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 17 Jul 2024, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Again, OT, but many people who think voting systems are simple haven't actually thought it through (and experienced IT experts are particularly prone to this fallacy), I mean it's just counting isn't it?). The real world problem is not the technolo

Linux vs. Vision Tek Radeon HD3650

2010-05-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
A Vision Tek Radeon HD3650 is the only AGP card I can find locally. I've been looking at http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/Projects/Drivers?action=show&redirect=VideoDrivers , but I'm still not sure whether linux supports the card. I don't see anything with a remotely similar name. Does that mean t

Re: Linux vs. Vision Tek Radeon HD3650

2010-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 25 May 2010, suvayu ali wrote: On 25 May 2010 09:03, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: I don't see anything with a remotely similar name. Does that mean that linux does not support any card remotely like it? soundwave:/home/bseklecki$ grep HD /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep 3650        ATI Radeon HD

radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
I'm on my third video card. The first was a radeon. After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it. Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one, I replaced it with a VisionTek Radeon HD 3650. It was the AGP card I could find. Knoppix 5.1.0 runs

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I'm on my third video card. > The first was a radeon. > After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with > an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it. > Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one, > I replaced it wit

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I'm on my third video card. > The first was a radeon. > After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with > an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it. > Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one, > I replaced it wit

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I'm on my third video card. > The first was a radeon. > After I zapped that one, I had it replaced with > an nvidia card because it had AGP and I could find it. > Having cooked or otherwise damaged that one, > I replaced it wit

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> >>> I'm on my third video card. >>> The first was a radeon. >>> After I zapped that one, I had it

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sat, 29 May 2010, Craig White wrote: > >> On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >>> On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: >>> >>>> I'm on my third video card. >>>&

Re: Installing F13

2010-05-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 30 May 2010, N James Bridge wrote: > Personally, I prefer to do a clean install, since it gets rid of > accumulated clutter. That assumes you have a convenient way of backing > up your /home directory. I back up regardless. If you have a /home partition and do a custom install, you can te

Re: Installing F13

2010-05-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Why can't they just admit that LVM is a bad idea? > It belongs to a past age when disk-space was limited. LVM is probably useful. That said, I was innoculated against its virtues when it was sprung on me as a surprise during an install. If one has *on

Re: How to set monitor refresh rate more than 60hz in Fedora 13

2010-05-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Note: for Nvidia, ATI, and Intel graphics this probably won't work because the > enhanced drivers do things as they see fit. There are vendor (closed source) In my case, a problem is that the radeon driver is using the preferred frequency, 135 Mhz, eve

Re: Installing F13

2010-05-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 08:19 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> On Sun, 30 May 2010, N James Bridge wrote: >> >>> Personally, I prefer to do a clean install, since it gets rid of >>> accumulated clutter. Tha

Re: Tex and F13 - help please

2010-05-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Genes MailLists wrote: > >> I see that F13 still has texlive 2007 which is too old for me to use >> and collaborate with my colleagues. > > As a matter of interest, what do you need that is not in TeXlive 2007? My guess is that there was a change in s

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:45 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> On Fri, 28 May 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> >>> I'm on my third video card. >>> The first was a radeon. >>> After I zapped that one, I had it

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
Any more ideas? Perhaps everyone is gone for the weekend. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be." -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
I installed FC11 on another set of partitions and got something that more or less runs. I made the mistake of not customizing the package list, so I'm stuck with gnome. Gnome is loud. Gnome is not KDE. I still can't watch hulu. I need a flash plugin and cannot remember the magic formula. Followin

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
A friend suggested that I need a radeonhd driver. yum provides '*radeonhd*' lists at least two. Do I need a radeonhd driver, and, if so, how do I tell which one will work? -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 31 May 2010, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Monday 31 May 2010 08:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> A friend suggested that I need a radeonhd driver. >> yum provides '*radeonhd*' >> lists at least two. >> Do I need a radeonhd driver, and, if so, >> how d

Re: Chromium by default?

2010-06-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> supercalifragilisticexpialidocius (again Dr. Evil) > > [OT] AFAIK, this is originally due to Mary Poppins, not Dr. Evil. ;-) And the difference is -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Mike Fedyk wrote: > The radeonhd driver is unmaintained. It has been removed from later > versions of fedora. > > try booting with "nomodeset" in the kernel command line (hint: press > "e" while in the grub boot menu) I've done that. It didn't help. > I recommend updating t

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 15:52:02 -0500, > Michael Hennebry wrote: >> >> *sigh* >> I suppose I'll have to. >> It's always a pain. >> I prefer to climb one hill at a time. > > The Radeon driver and

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 15:52:02 -0500, >> Michael Hennebry wrote: >>> >>> *sigh* >>> I suppose I'll have to. >>> It's always a pain. &

Re: radeon to nvidia to radeon produces pain

2010-06-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 01:30:10 -0500, > Michael Hennebry wrote: >> >> I might have screamed too soon. >> After using Xorg -configure, >> I replaced the old xorg.conf with the generated version. >> Does this mean

Re: Thoughts on floppy disks

2010-06-10 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Timothy Murphy wrote: >> It seems to me that as an absolute minimum >> any documentation mentioning floppy drives >> should at least explain how CDs can be used to the same end. >> > Should we read this as "I am starting a crusade to research the proper

Re: Top posting

2010-06-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
Fool. On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 25/06/10 16:53, Jesus Arocho wrote: > --snip-- > People do, continue to and will always top post >> >> Thanks for the comment. Although I do try to work within the standards of a >> group, I do prefer top posting, but do not mind reading emails

Re: Top posting

2010-06-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Jesus Arocho wrote: > On Friday, June 25, 2010 03:20:53 pm Michael Hennebry wrote: >> Fool. >> > > Regardless of the relative merits of top or bottom posting the 'fool' comment > is uncalled for. How is it that such a trivial issue can d

Re: Top posting

2010-06-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Jesus Arocho wrote: > On Friday, June 25, 2010 03:20:53 pm Michael Hennebry wrote: >> Fool. >> > > Regardless of the relative merits of top or bottom posting the 'fool' comment > is uncalled for. How is it that such a trivial issue can d

Re: Top posting

2010-06-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:27:12 -0500 (CDT) > Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Jesus Arocho wrote: >> >>> On Friday, June 25, 2010 03:20:53 pm Michael Hennebry wrote: >>>> Fool. >>>&g

Re: Top posting

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, Jesus Arocho wrote: > On Monday, June 28, 2010 02:51:37 pm Michael Hennebry wrote: > >>> Perhaps it's a typo? >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-June/376308.html >>> >>> (at the very top -- ahead of the

Re: Top posting

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Jesus Arocho wrote: > On Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:31:13 am Michael Hennebry wrote: >> On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, Jesus Arocho wrote: >>> On Monday, June 28, 2010 02:51:37 pm Michael Hennebry wrote: >>>>> Perhaps it's a typo? >>>&g

Re: fool-ishness (Re: Top posting)

2010-06-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, Joel Rees wrote: > Mail User Agents are notoriously bad at the automatic quoting game > (partly because different mail browsers implement quoting It's what one does after the automatic quoting that counts. I wouldn't expect a MUA to trim boilerplate for me. I do that myself.

Re: Top posting

2010-06-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 06/29/2010 07:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> "Fool." was deliberately ambiguous. >> That was its point. > > For goodness' sake, we have enough accidental ambiguousness on this > list without people ad

Re: [OT] vi question

2010-07-14 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: > On 2010-07-14 19:26, Mike Wright wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm wasting a lot of time (probably because of a brain fart) googling >> for this. >> >> I'm using Zend_Framework to generate some html which it unfortunately >> does as one giant line. I'm pre

Re: [OT] vi question

2010-07-14 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: > On 2010-07-14 21:19, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: >> >>> On 2010-07-14 19:26, Mike Wright wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm wasting a lot

flash on www.nbc.com

2010-03-07 Thread Michael Hennebry
Is there some trick to getting flash to work through firefox? When I click on a Chuck episode, the peacock shows up and wiggles its tail, but that is all that happens. Zoom in works. I've running FC 11. About tells me that I'm running Adobe Flash Player 10,0,45,2 . I can play flash on some sites.

Re: flash on www.nbc.com

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010, Patrick Bartek wrote: > --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> Is there some trick to getting flash >> to work through firefox? >> When I click on a Chuck episode, >> the peacock shows up and wiggles its tail, but that is all >

Re: flash on www.nbc.com

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Kevin Martin wrote: > It appears, from what I've read, that it's an issue with NBC's website > not detecting the Flash 10 version correctly (have seen this on other > sites as well). I've tried accessing the site in Chrome as well on > Fedora 11 i386 with no success. Thanks f

How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Hennebry
For work, I have had to use Microsoft outlook for e-mail. I'd like to be able to get at it through either KMail or evolution on my home F13 machine. I've tried to set up both without success. That I've never used a mail client before probably doesn't help. With KMail I'm stuck when I get to Server

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/15/2011 03:16 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> With KMail I'm stuck when I get to >> Server Innformation >> Incoming server: >> Outgoing server: >> Use local delivery >> > > There was a time when

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Frank Cox wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:16:58 -0500 (CDT) > Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> For work, I have had to use Microsoft outlook for e-mail. >> I'd like to be able to get at it through either >> KMail or evolution on my home F13 machi

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 17:44 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Frank Cox wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:16:58 -0500 (CDT) >>> Michael Hennebry wrote: >>> >>>&g

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 18:24 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> >> That leaves the blanks I need to fill in. >>> From migration information given to Mac users, >> I gather at least part of one answer is red001.mail.m

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 17:39 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> Alas, I expect not. We are rapidly becoming a Windows-only shop. >> I have my doubts they actually know. >> I'm pretty sure Microsoft has the actual

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Greg Woods wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 21:47 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> * Account type: IMAP >> * Incoming mail server: imap.ndsu.nodak.edu >> * Incoming mail server encryption: SSL on port 993 > > Then you probably nee

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 12:11 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> Alas still no go. >> Now it asks me for a password, but it won't take it. >> The error box says >> Unable to authenticate to IMAP server. >>

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Mike Williams wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Michael Hennebry > wrote: >> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 12:11 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >>>> Alas still no go. >>&

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Jayson Rowe wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Michael Hennebry > wrote: >> the data from which I am working is here: >> http://www.ndsu.edu/its/help/index/mobile_devices/configuration/ >> > Hi Michael, > I followed your link, an

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Fred Erickson wrote: > My Evolution is 2.32.2 on F14. If you email me direct, I will send you > screen shots of my GMail configuration pages. That may be of some help. I've got 2.30.3 on F13. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Pessimist: The glass is half empty. O

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-18 Thread Michael Hennebry
Could someone translate the following information into a fetchmail command? * Account type: IMAP * Incoming mail server: imap.ndsu.nodak.edu * Incoming mail server encryption: SSL on port 993 * Outgoing mail server: smtp.ndsu.nodak.edu * Outgoing mail server encryption: TL

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-18 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011, Michael Hennebry wrote: > Could someone translate the following information into a fetchmail command? > > * Account type: IMAP > * Incoming mail server: imap.ndsu.nodak.edu > * Incoming mail server encryption: SSL on port 993 > * Ou

RE: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-19 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011, Damian Kohlfeld wrote: > Use the following fetchmail configuration as a template. Replace all It goes in ~/.fetchmailrc ? The command is just fetchmail ? > USERNAME with your unix user account name, all PASSWORD with the password > for that IMAP account, all IMAPUSER with t

RE: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jun 2011, Damian Kohlfeld wrote: > >> Use the following fetchmail configuration as a template. Replace all > > It goes in ~/.fetchmailrc ? > The command is just > fetchmail > ? > >> USERNAME with your

RE: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011, Damian Kohlfeld wrote: > Use the following fetchmail configuration as a template. Replace all > USERNAME with your unix user account name, all PASSWORD with the password > for that IMAP account, all IMAPUSER with the IMAP username, all MAILHOST > with the IMAP serverhostname a

RE: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011, Damian Kohlfeld wrote: > --- BEGIN CONFIG --- > > set postmaster "USERNAME" > set bouncemail > set no spambounce > set softbounce > set properties "" > set no showdots > > poll MAILHOST with proto IMAP > user 'IMAPUSER' there with password 'PASSWORD' is 'USERNAME' here > opt

RE: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Michael Hennebry wrote: > Here is my ~/.fetchmailrc >> set postmaster "hennebry" >> set bouncemail >> set no spambounce >> set softbounce >> set properties "" >> set no showdots >> >> poll imap.ndsu.no

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Two questions: are you sure you have an IMAP account set up? Reading > from here, it appears that the settings may be different: > > http://www.ndsu.edu/its/help/index/e_mail/ndsu_outlook/non_supported_e_mail_software_setup/imap/ I noticed that. There i

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/21/2011 07:19 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: >>> poll imap.ndsu.nodak.edu with proto IMAP >>>> user 'Michael.Hennebry' there is 'hennebry' here >>>> options keep fetchall ssl mda

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Ed Greshko wrote: >> The other thingthe web pages at nodak.edu would seem to suggest that >> you have to request IMAP access from the IT department before they >> enable it. Is that the case? Have

Re: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
The problem is Linux vs. Microsoft Exchange 5.5 . The help desk guy tells me that he will try to get IMAP enabled on my account. He does not guaranty success. Is there anything Linux that will talk to Microsoft Exchange 5.5? -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Pessimist: The glass is ha

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