Re: port based routing

2020-08-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 8/3/20 3:25 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-02 16:03, Gordon Messmer wrote:    firewall-cmd --permanent --direct --add-rule ipv4 raw OUTPUT 100 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j MARK –set-mark 0x1 Would you mind taking apart all the switches in the above run string and expaining

Re: Fedora 32: can't cd to home directory on login

2020-08-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 8/9/20 8:02 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: Fedora 32 (Workstation Edition) Kernel 5.7.12-200.fc32.x86_64 on an x86_64 (tty3) mull login: braden Password: Last login: Sun Aug 9 21:08:51 on tty2 -- braden: /home/braden: change directory failed: Logging in with home = "/

gnome-software thinks Fedora 33 is available now

2020-08-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
Recently, gnome-software has started alerting me that a new version of Fedora is available.  I haven't seen anyone else mention this happening, so I assume that there's something misconfigured on my system. Where does gnome-software get the list of available releases, on Fedora? ___

Re: Anyone know how to get around a java script on this web page?

2020-08-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 8/22/20 6:42 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: https://www.eset.com/us/business/endpoint-security/windows-security/download/ ... Problem is that the revision is generated by a java script. The version isn't *generated* by JavaScript, it's requested from an API by JavaScript.  The differ

Re: gnome-software thinks Fedora 33 is available now

2020-08-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 8/24/20 7:37 AM, Ben Cotton wrote: What's the output of: gsettings get org.gnome.software show-upgrade-prerelease It was "true", so the problem was on my end (which I expected). Thanks for your help! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.f

Re: Any Emacs Users?

2020-10-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/1/20 5:40 AM, Lasse Kliemann wrote: a) Is 'use-package' available for Fedora from a trustworthy source? (I avoid Emacs' own package management, since the last time I checked, it was a security nightmare.) Which one?  https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/UsePackage I'm guessing it's the lat

Re: f32:: thunderbird broken?

2020-10-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/13/20 7:17 AM, Jerry James wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 3:14 AM Adrian Sevcenco wrote: Hi! It seem that thunderbird-78.3.1-1.fc32.x86_64 is broken, meaning that cannot connect and sync IMAP accounts.. as soon as i downgrade to thunderbird-68.6.0-1.fc32.x86_64 everythings works again w

Re: Network problem

2020-11-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/4/20 6:16 AM, Scott van Looy via users wrote: So on startup, all 3 appear to be working and have IPs assigned according to ifconfig, but... .215 accepts pings, .216 and .217 do not https://access.redhat.com/solutions/53031 reverse path filtering is on by default, and in that configur

Re: f31:: thunderbird/kde:: extension of window below desktop

2020-11-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/3/20 1:43 AM, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: the thunderbird window cannot be resized in vertical size and also cannot be moved vertically ... Not exactly, but I'd expect you to be able to resize a window from any visible corner.  Can you resize windows if you zoom out? https://docs.kde.org/

Re: What is the system call for time?

2020-12-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/21/20 6:01 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 1:25 AM ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: I am using Raku's NativeCall.  It only talks to .so's and .dll's. say localtime; Right.  At the risk of stating the obvious: Raku's documenta

Clevis LUKS bind tpm2 for multiple disks

2020-12-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
https://blog.dowhile0.org/2017/10/18/automatic-luks-volumes-unlocking-using-a-tpm2-chip/ The use of clevis to bind a LUKS volume to a TPM2 device isn't very well documented, but a few articles and blogs provide working examples for a single LUKS volume: "clevis luks bind -d /dev/sda3 tpm2 '{"

Re: BTRFS partition corrupted after deleting files in /home

2021-01-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/9/21 9:09 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: I mean, this is the reason I keep complaining that BTRFS is not stable enough. ... So is this a problem of my machine/firmware or a problem in BTRFS itself ? Since I haven't seen it asked yet: Does this system have ECC RAM? I don't want to shortcut

Re: BTRFS partition corrupted after deleting files in /home

2021-01-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/9/21 11:49 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: https://askubuntu.com/a/391178/628460 Will the above work in telling me if I have ECC RAM ? It should: # lshw -C memory ...   *-memory    description: System Memory    physical id: 27    slot: System board or motherboard    size: 32

Re: BTRFS partition corrupted after deleting files in /home

2021-01-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/11/21 11:02 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: something wrong with my HDD but the guys on the mailing list told me I did not have to worry. https://listi.jpberlin.de/pipermail/smartmontools-support/2020-November/000560.html https://listi.jpberlin.de/pipermail/smartmontools-support/2020-Nove

Re: BTRFS partition corrupted after deleting files in /home

2021-01-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/13/21 12:36 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: I am fully open to the fact that there may be something wrong with my HDD. But it is difficult to believe that, since this laptop is from 2016 and I had been using Windows 10 on it for a long time and saw no problems. None that you know of.  Windo

Re: BTRFS partition corrupted after deleting files in /home

2021-01-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/13/21 11:21 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: 548 hours is not an old drive. It shouldn't have any write errors. But as a drive ages there might be some and they should be handled transparently and not affect any other operation. Something is definitely wrong that there are write errors followed by re

Re: what is the process number of a "running application" ?

2015-01-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/14/2015 09:32 AM, Angelo Moreschini wrote: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/50 --- From the command line you can type: |"sudo xkill" There's no reason to use sudo for xkill. Root can't do anything with xkill that you, as the X session owner, cannot do. xkill doesn't kill

Re: swapping

2015-01-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/15/2015 11:28 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: Selinux requires at least basic knowledge and administration. Most of the people I installed Linux for didn't even know it was there or what it's good for. If you do not use file system permissions for something useful, chmod -R a+w / File system perm

Re: swapping

2015-01-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/17/2015 03:54 AM, Andrew R Paterson wrote: then basically - I wanted OUT!. I feel your pain. I used to really like computers, until we networked them all together, and security became something we had to care about. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Fedora-21 firewall advice?

2015-01-18 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/18/2015 04:44 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: Opposed to what is written in this article, firewalld leaves the system open even after upgrading with "--product=nonproduct", which I verified some minutes ago on a laptop upgraded from F20 to F21 yesterday evening. Use 'iptables -L -n -v'. You are p

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/20/2015 01:42 AM, Tim wrote: Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one of the several hundred watt monster room heating PCs, either. I'm not sure what you mean. Modern PCs tend to use a lot less power than older ones did. Upgrading almost always means running quieter, cooler, and usin

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/19/2015 10:50 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: To further back up Kevin a 32-bit environment must stay around, if not for Linux apps, but for Windows apps. The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine. And for that matter, the person proposing the change isn't proposing that no 32-bit platfo

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/20/2015 10:52 AM, Temlakos wrote: Does this mean Skype will no longer be available in this platform? No. There hasn't been a proposal to remove 32 bit support from the 64 bit release. The proposal, which is still hypothetical, would be to make the 32 bit platform (the release with a 3

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/20/2015 01:43 PM, Temlakos wrote: But I have one or two 32-bit applications, that need 32-bit libraries. I would like to know these would still be available Yes. If the 32 bit platform became a secondary arch, those apps would still run on the 64 bit release, just like they do now. The

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/20/2015 01:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 01/20/2015 03:26 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine. You cannot run Win32 PE binaries with 64-bit wine. Wine does not emulate ( ;) ) arches. I know that. 32-bit Wine is available on the 64-bit Fedora

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/21/2015 03:39 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: and ignores the fact the i386 is a multilibbed/~arched archecture of the x86_64. Good point, the multilib part of the issue is interesting... and an important one too. Not really. The proposal, if it were made and accepted, ne

Re: despirate help needed - Samba and security = share

2015-01-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/23/2015 12:13 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: All of my servers run the same type of setup and it's all based around "security = share". Why is this so universally declared as bad?? Well, consider how it worked: https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba3-HOWTO/ServerType.html#id2559439 The c

Re: Net install of Fedora 21: use local "installation source"

2015-01-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/27/2015 09:05 AM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: a) Select"https://"; from the combo box and type "maggie.toyon.corp/fedora/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/" in the text box. b) Select"https://"; from the combo box and type "maggie.toyon.corp/fedora/updates/$releasever/$basearch/"

Re: top command question

2015-01-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/27/2015 05:51 PM, jd1008 wrote: Is there a version of top that will show per cpu loads? Press '1' on your keyboard to see per-CPU utilization in the standard 'top' application. Note that "load" is not a measure of CPU utilization. Load is simply the average number of processes in a n

Re: Net install of Fedora 21: use local "installation source"

2015-01-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/27/2015 08:24 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: Thank you very much for the reply. However I am asking about which URL I should place in the "installation source" field when installing a fresh copy of Fedora 21 server. this is when I am installing fedora before I have a proper file system. Use

Re: Suddenly can't get nameserver resolution on FC21 after ...

2015-01-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/28/2015 07:02 AM, William W. Austin wrote: I have checked my ifcfg-* files under/etc/sysconfig/ (all 3 links of each of the 2 nics) and they are unchanged. My /etc/hosts file is unchanged DNS is configured in /etc/resolv.conf. Look there. Attempt to ping your DNS servers to verify they

Re: rsyslogd is stuck in D state

2015-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/29/2015 06:38 AM, Neal Becker wrote: /usr/sbin/rsyslogd is stuck in D state, seems to be hogging my disk I/O You could "strace -p " to see which file descriptor it's reading/writing, and then look at /proc//fd/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Old Kernel Modules Directories not Cleaned up

2015-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/29/2015 01:55 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: I had to delete a dozen of these directories this morning manually, why are these not removed when the associated kernels are removed? Were the kernel modules in those directories built locally by dkms rather than owned by rpm packages? That'd do

Re: How to configure the firewall for VPN PPP connections?

2015-02-18 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/18/2015 12:54 PM, Paul Smith wrote: How should one configure the firewall in order to be able to connect from my machine (Fedora 21) to another machine (MS Windows) via VPN PPP? Perhaps, after some updates, the possibility of establishing such a VPN PPP has become blocked by the firewall.

Re: How to configure the firewall for VPN PPP connections?

2015-02-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/19/2015 02:57 PM, Paul Smith wrote: The issue may be related to the following: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/63759/pptp-connection-fails-after-last-update/?sort=oldest That's odd. GRE packets should be "RELATED" to the initial pptp connection. Was there actually a change i

Re: How to configure the firewall for VPN PPP connections?

2015-02-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/20/2015 10:00 AM, Paul Smith wrote: The truth, Gordon, is that after changing the firewall configuration as described in the referred site, the issue was fixed. Yes, I understand that. But it sounds like GRE was allowed previously because it was "RELATED" to the pptp TCP connection befo

Re: How to configure the firewall for VPN PPP connections?

2015-02-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/20/2015 12:58 PM, Paul Smith wrote: If the issue is caused by the kernel, cannot one speculate that is deliberated in order to increase security? As Rick has just suggested, one can restrict the GRE service to certain IPs, while allowing the GRE service globally would leave the computer les

Re: Raid vs rsync -

2015-03-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/09/2015 11:04 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: However I have been wondering if it wouldn't work just as well to periodically rsync the drive in use with a second drive? I know I'm going to repeat some of what has already been said. My 2c anyway: No, rsync would not work just as well. Do you w

Re: Could someone explain why thunderbird creates so many processes per folder

2015-03-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/14/2015 04:17 PM, jd1008 wrote: $ lsof | grep Sent thunderbi 3165 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf Gecko_IOT 3165 3192 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunde

Re: Question about TB

2015-03-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/14/2015 03:45 PM, jd1008 wrote: All of the items under copies and folders (sent, archives, drafts and templates), are being saved in @gmail.com so are those in the account jd1008. It gets very hard to interpret support requests when you redact the pertinent information. If all of the

Re: Question about TB

2015-03-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/17/2015 04:06 PM, jd1008 wrote: If that's not what you want, then select your Name-Removed-by-me account, make sure that the option to "Place a copy" of your sent mail is checked, and then select whatever folder you want to store mail for that account. You misunderstood. I meant that accou

Re: F21 SSH sends TCP keep-alive - server RSTs

2015-03-18 Thread Gordon Messmer
Based on the symptoms you describe in this email and your earlier ones, I would most strongly suspect that one of the systems you're using has an IP address conflict. Use arping on both the client and server to verify that they are the only device on their respective broadcast domains to use t

Re: Most likely OT: rsync to cifs mount

2015-04-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/01/2015 09:20 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: $ du -sh kmeans --apparent-size 154Gkmeans $ du -sh kmeans 628Gkmeans That looks backwards to me, presuming you have sparse files? It makes sense if there's a very large number of files of less than 2k each, while Isilon OneFS uses an

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/03/2015 05:04 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: - (bigger harm) Why hasn't Fedora alternative (upstart/openrc) init? ... When systemd presents itself as compatible with sysvinit, then IMO having alternative init in Fedora should not be too big problem. Systemd is backward-compatible with SysV

Re: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db perms

2015-05-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/03/2015 04:47 PM, jd1008 wrote: I distrust suid programs. Skepticism toward SUID root is sometimes merited. Evaluating your own needs for such programs is reasonable. Distrusting the mechanism itself is tin-foil-hat-crazy. I find it strange that a security minded system needs an su

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/03/2015 04:13 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: SysV init scripts are here for ages They were large, inconsistent, and burdensome to maintain. The people who maintained them decided that there was a better option. If you are willing to maintain them, then you can do

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/04/2015 06:20 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: journald automatically scales its usage to its idea of available memory That's an explanation that's somewhat less troubling. I read the man page for journald.conf and was not enlightened. Which values am I looking at? I see references to in-mem

Re: an idea about upgrades

2015-05-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/12/2015 11:25 AM, Neal Becker wrote: It would be a great idea if Fedora would provide >a way to downgrade to the immediately previous release >(from which the upgrade was performed), if the user >decides (for some reason) to return to the previous >release. This would completely obviate the

Re: an idea about upgrades

2015-05-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/12/2015 04:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I only see a plugin for dnf. Is there also one for yum? I thought there was, but I could be wrong. Memory, and all that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorapro

Re: /boot on RAID1 with fedora21

2015-05-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/15/2015 01:34 PM, Alex Regan wrote: What is the level of support for RAID1 on /boot? Is it now fully supported with fedora21? As far as I know, that's been supported for a long, long time. I don't remember a time when it wasn't. However, on UEFI, /boot/efi on RAID is not supported. I

Re: /boot on RAID1 with fedora21

2015-05-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/15/2015 04:29 PM, Alex Regan wrote: However, on UEFI, /boot/efi on RAID is not supported. I'm not sure I understand all the reasons for that, but I'm actually going to be experimenting this weekend to see whether that works for a partition with 0.90 or 1.0 metadata, and a system that does

Re: loading shared libraries - ERROR

2015-05-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/24/2015 04:48 PM, Mickey wrote: As for QT5, I installed with this installer, qt-unified-linux-x64-2.0.1-online.run ...which don't "provide" that library for dependency resolution. # yum install qt5-qtdeclarative -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: mplayer problem

2015-05-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/25/2015 11:39 AM, jd1008 wrote: nop! Not if invoking mplayer from within a script. How are you calling the script? I ask because it sounds like mplayer doesn't have a controlling tty. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: htt

Re: mplayer problem

2015-05-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/25/2015 10:25 PM, g wrote: For me, running it from a script like above, then * and / do not >work, but invoking mplayer on one file at a time it works. . try this command line to run script in backgrounder; script-name& ...in which case mplayer will have no controlling tty, and keyb

Re: USB to COM Port connections

2015-05-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/26/2015 08:44 AM, Mickey wrote: Ed, I look through Thunderbirds Preferences and I could not find those settings, where are they located ? Not under preferences, but under account settings. Edit -> Account Settings -> -> Composition & Addressing -> Compose messages in HTML format. --

Re: USB to COM Port connections

2015-05-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/26/2015 05:30 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: # chmod 666 /dev/ttyACM0 –> ( Why Is this a bad syntax) Octal. "chmod 0666 /dev/ttyACM0". Those two commands are equivalent. The leading digit is optional, and not an indication that the number is octal. All numeric mode descriptions are octal, w

Re: Fedora 22 is here!

2015-05-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/26/2015 09:20 PM, Derek Tattersall wrote: Is there a way to rescue my system? Or should I scrub it and start over? Probably. Check /var/log/fedup.log to see what went wrong, first. How you proceed probably depends on what failed. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Fedora 22 is here!

2015-05-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/26/2015 10:04 PM, Derek Tattersall wrote: Not working machine: ... [ 1581.578] (II) fedup:message() 2:libnm-qt-0.9.8.4-1.fc21.x86_64 [ 1581.580] (II) fedup:() /bin/fedup exiting cleanly at Tue May 26 08:31:42 2015 I can't be sure without seeing the rest of the log, but that isn't t

Re: dnf issues in f22

2015-05-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/27/2015 11:08 AM, Isaac Cortés González wrote: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe1' in position 30: ordinal not in range(128) \xE1 is an "à" in some ISO-8859 locales. You are probably not using a UTF-8 locale, somewhere. -- users mailing list users@lists.fed

Re: ssh-agent called by gnome, cinnamon... but not by openbox

2015-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 06:56 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: don't seem to do anything under Fedora. What is the fedora way to do make Openbox start ssh-agent every time, then? the old .startx of yore, or what? I'm not familiar with openbox, so I can't comment on the "environment" setup to which you linked. I

Re: ssh-agent called by gnome, cinnamon... but not by openbox

2015-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 08:36 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: Like in the old times then? OK, thanks. Will try it as soon as I've finished something I cannot interrupt right now. Besides, I still have one question: won't this confuse/break the way ssh agent is started/used by other WM/DEs??? I'm not sure why it w

Re: What Seriously Ails Fedora

2015-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 12:36 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Before Fedora 22 was released all packages with broken dependencies were fixed or retired/removed. It's part of the release process now. When released, there were no known broken dependencies. jd1008's message was difficult to interpret, but I *think*

Re: passwordless rsync?

2015-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 04:40 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Btw, to allow multiple commands from the same host, I guess I should have multiple lines for the same public key? No. command="" is run instead of whatever was requested. It's not conditional. sshd isn't executing that command or allowing that key

Re: What Seriously Ails Fedora

2015-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 03:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: What you're saying is, in effect, that boost 1.54 breaks backward compatibility and boost-terminal isn't going to get upgraded. Yes. Isn't it up to boost's maintainer to see to it that this doesn't become an issue? How? boost-terminal isn't in the h

Re: What Seriously Ails Fedora

2015-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 04:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: If you are maintaining package Foo, which is a dependency of Bar, you have no obligation to support Bar. You do, however, have an obligation to make an effort to support backward compatibility in Foo You're already mixing several different roles into th

Re: What Seriously Ails Fedora

2015-05-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 11:31 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/28/2015 08:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: How? boost-terminal isn't in the hypothetical current release, so there's nothing to check. How? maintain some sort of backward compatibility so that you don't need to check package-by-pack

Re: passwordless rsync?

2015-05-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/29/2015 09:03 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: rsync is the only command that rsnapshot will call on the source system. I meant to say what command options rsnapshot adds to rsync, but I think I can find that out by looking at short_options, and long_options in rsnapshot.conf. I wasn't clear, previ

Re: UPS shutdown happens how?

2015-06-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/02/2015 07:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I told it to shutdown when battery power is critical, but I'm wondering who the heck recognizes that. I don't run a gnome session, so is there some daemon that needs to be working for it to actually shutdown cleanly? If you're not running a GNOME sessi

Re: UPS shutdown happens how?

2015-06-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/02/2015 09:34 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: That doesn't seem reasonable. It wouldn't shut down the system unless someone was actually logged in if gnome-settings-daemon were responsible for noticing the power failure. gdm also runs a GNOME session, and gnome-settings-daemon. I believe that co

GDM memory use

2015-06-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
$ a=0; ps axfu | grep ^gdm| awk '{print $6}' | \ (while read x ; do a=$(( a + x )) ; done ; echo $a ) 400760 Does anyone else notice that gdm's session takes up 300-400MB of RAM? I typically defend GNOME, but this is kind of ridiculous. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: GDM memory use

2015-06-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/03/2015 07:14 AM, Alex Regan wrote: It's only a fraction of that here: I'm using Fedora 22. It got bigger. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: htt

Re: dnf whatprovides and library files

2015-06-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/09/2015 04:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I can't seem to get dnf to tell me what package supplies a library. ... [root@f22k ~]# ll /lib64/libXv.so.1.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 19664 Aug 17 2014 /lib64/libXv.so.1.0.0 [root@f22k ~]# dnf whatprovides /lib64/libXv.so.1.0.0 That's the correct q

Re: dnf whatprovides and library files

2015-06-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/10/2015 12:24 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: But, just to be clear, the issue I'm addressing is what an average user may do in a given circumstance. Upon seeing an error message such as this one, error while loading shared libraries: /lib64/libexempi.so.3: file too short assuming they know of dnf

Re: dnf whatprovides and library files

2015-06-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/11/2015 02:03 AM, Radek Holy wrote: Anyone, feel free to file an RFE if you really need something mentioned in this thread. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1230866 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/24/2015 05:47 PM, jd1008 wrote: Well, that is strange!!! It really says that BIOS is busted and does not have the good sense to realize the drive is not bootable - just as in the case of having an audio CD in the CD drive, and it ignores the presenc of the audio CD and moves on to the next

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/25/2015 11:33 AM, jd1008 wrote: I bought the usb drive brand new and had not installed anything on it. Just partitioned it and used it. So, how could it contain any boot code? Is this what manufacturers do by default? I had not encountered this issue you raise before. Have a look at it:

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/25/2015 02:51 PM, jd1008 wrote: Is the; \0 305 033 the cause of the problem for BIOS? Possibly? Though, I should have also suggested that you check bytes at 0x1FE and 0x1FF: # dd if=/dev/sda bs=2 count=1 skip=255 2>/dev/null | od -x 000 aa55 002 Those bytes are a sig

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/25/2015 03:55 PM, jd1008 wrote: OK, but since this drive is my only backup drive, I feel I cannot run dd to clobber those 466 bytes :( Too risky, even if I feel nothing can go wrong, but ... murphy's law Re: sda1: here is the output: dd if=/dev/sda bs=2 count=1 skip=255 2>/dev/null |

Re: Firefox scrollbar problem

2015-06-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/26/2015 04:21 AM, Philip Heron wrote: I've noticed since F22 I can't grab the Firefox scrollbar with the mouse pointer when it's on the very right of the bar. I have to move it in a pixel or two in before it works. It's like there's a thin inactive border around it. Anyone know a workarou

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/26/2015 02:51 PM, jd1008 wrote: Just wondering about the bytes in the first sector which you thought might be boot code that is confusing BIOS to think that my usb drive is bootable. The bytes you already saw are obviously not boot code. What is obvious to you is not obvious to the CPU,

Re: Firefox scrollbar problem

2015-06-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/26/2015 02:34 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: This seems to explain why Firefox's scrollbar acquired the obnoxious behavior... Yeah, that too. And why Ctrl+K doesn't move the cursor to the search box. Some of these are, IMO, bad design decisions with GTK3. The border to the right of firef

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/26/2015 04:05 PM, jd1008 wrote: Where do device (or partition) labels reside? In the partitions? In MBR, partitions don't have labels. Filesystems do regardless of what container they're in. In GPT, partitions have 72 bytes for a label/name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_

Re: Firefox scrollbar problem

2015-06-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/26/2015 04:39 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >Yeah, that too. And why Ctrl+K doesn't move the cursor to the search >box. Some of these are, IMO, bad design decisions with GTK3. Does work for me. Perhaps it is a feature of the site you are visting? It doesn't work when the text cursor is in a

Re: Journal question

2015-06-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/29/2015 12:39 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Does anybody here understand what's misleading? I don't, but that commit was in 2012, and the code has changed quite a bit since then, including the specific block that contains that warning. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/26/2015 07:35 PM, jd1008 wrote: I have been googling and read wikis. None of them really explain clearly If 1. a drive has no bootable partitions and 2. the boot code in the 1st 446 bytes does not exist (all nulls) then how does bios decide it is not bootable, move on to the nex

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 02:28 PM, jd1008 wrote: I already explained to you 1. The disk is partitioned using fdisk. 2. I cleared the 446 bytes to nulls. 3. None of the partitions have a boot signature. The boot signature is at bytes 511 and 512, and you indicated that it is present: https://lists.fedora

Re: Strange booting problem - Off list

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 03:04 PM, jd1008 wrote: dd if=/dev/sdb bs=2 count=1 skip=255 2>/dev/null | od -x 000 aa55 If these are the bytes that indicate a boot signature, can they be "null'ed" safely?? Doing so worked for me, when testing under SeaBIOS. dd if=/dev/zero bs=2 count=1 seek=255 of=/dev/s

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 03:17 PM, jd1008 wrote: The link you refer to talks about the 2 bytes past byte 255, they they are bytes 256 and 257. No, they're the two byte block at the 255th block of two bytes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record Again, bytes 0-446 are boot code. Bytes 256 and

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 03:32 PM, jd1008 wrote: So, with this kind of change, it destroys the partition table. So it does. :( Well, that's disappointing. Educational, but disappointing. I missed that in testing because the bootable media I was using wrote both an MBR and GPT labels to the USB drive.

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 03:41 PM, jd1008 wrote: So, it begs the question: (that's not what "begs the question" means) Can I create a disk with msdos partitioning scheme, none of the partitions marked as bootable, and have bios quickly skip over it to the next device in the boot sequence? So far it l

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 03:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: 2. The most likely explanation for the problem, as someone else alluded to, is the USB drive has stale bootloader code on it that points to no where and hangs. One of jd's earlier messages included the boot sector. It was mostly nul bytes. The so

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 04:01 PM, jd1008 wrote: So, how can I proceed with a brand new drive, dd /dev/zero into the first ... say 4K bytes, partition it with fdisk, do not mark any partition bootable, so that bios will skip over it ? Based on testing, it looks like any use of MBR will cause your BIOS to

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 04:13 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 17:11 -0600, jd1008 wrote: So, it begs the question: (that's not what "begs the question" means) For my case it does cause me to ask : The conundrum of my situation does indeed lead me to ask that question. If you think i

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 04:10 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: However, also based on testing, it seems that if you used GPT for your >partitions, then BIOS would skip over the drive during the boot process. No because every GPT creator also creates a PMBR which includes the MBR boot signature that you're telling

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 04:11 PM, jd1008 wrote: Since my internal drive is dual boot, I do need to boot an OS that does not recognize GPT :( What OS are you booting that won't read GPT? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: Strange booting problem

2015-06-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/30/2015 04:33 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: That will not work. Parted replaces the PMBR in such a case. So does gdisk. Today I learned too many things. Thanks, Chris. :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproj

Re: Thunderbird question

2015-07-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/04/2015 01:44 PM, jd1008 wrote: Well, now I must ask the list that since the messages that disappeared running the Repair folder in TB, are still on the gmail server. How can I get TB to download them all? Is there something I can do to TB or to my gmail account on mail.google.com that will

Re: Thunderbird question

2015-07-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/04/2015 02:16 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 07/04/2015 03:00 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: If you're connecting over IMAP, you can delete the cache: rm -rf .thunderbird/*.default/ImapMail/imap.googlemail.com* Using pop - I had had undesireable experience with Imap, so I switched to pop. One o

Re: Thunderbird question

2015-07-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/05/2015 12:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Yes and no. If you make a backup copy of your data just before trying to recover and the recovery process messes up, you can always try again. That really only matters if the index is damaged, and not the data file. If the mbox data file is damaged, re

Re: Thunderbird question

2015-07-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/05/2015 01:23 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Not so. The message is still there, but it's marked in the index as deleted. The file isn't re-written until it's compacted. I know. And that reduced the frequency of the re-write somewhat, but it doesn't change it fundamentally. Removing a message f

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