Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/10/2010 11:56 AM, Alan Evans wrote: Obvious question - could it be a file not a directory (perhaps it is not mounted yet for example) ... try ls -lZ instead (to check permissions whlie you're at it). gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: how to 'rip apart' a rpm.

2010-05-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/15/2010 11:22 AM, r...@dwf.com wrote: > I want to look at the individual files in a src rpm. > How do I 'rip it apart' ?? > Doing an install doesnt seem to be the answer, It does something, but I > have no idea where the bits and pieces are going. > They are NOT in /usr/src/redhat nor in /roo

Re: Sophos Anti Virus

2010-05-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/15/2010 11:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 07:12 -0400, Wm_Frank Pont jr wrote: >> I have many programs which g++ has produced and I own. These could >> be the target of a virus. > > What do you mean exactly? > >> It would be easy for me to wipe all of my >> exe

Re: how to 'rip apart' a rpm.

2010-05-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/15/2010 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > They are NOT in /usr/src/redhat nor in /root/rpmbuild. >> >> You really shouldn't be playing with source RPMs as root. Look in your >> user RPM sandbox: > > Whilst I agree we should be as careful w root as possible - if someone is willing to instal

Re: fc12 encrypted file system

2010-05-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/15/2010 11:51 PM, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 14:22 -0700, jdow wrote: >> Stop hijacking threads so you can whinge about hijacking threads > > You idiot! I was NOT hijacking a thread, I was directly responding to a > message, directly about *it*. > Strictly speaking you were not ..

Re: Can Windows and Linux co-exist?

2010-05-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/16/2010 09:27 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > Try these links: > > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/windows-installation.html <- > MySQL is fully Supported on Windows > http://openvpn.se/ <- Windows GUI for OpenVPN > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LDAP_software <- LDAP protocol is > cro

Re: First NFS entry in fstab not mounting at boot

2010-05-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/16/2010 10:20 AM, BadMagic wrote: > On 05/17/2010 12:16 AM, Tim wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 22:05 +1000, BadMagic wrote: >> >>> Basically, whichever entry goes first, doesn't get mounted. >>> >> Are the clients connecting to the network using network manager? >> Perhaps the netw

Re: fc12 encrypted file system

2010-05-16 Thread Genes MailLists
SANC's have a place .. but they need to be careful they don't overdo it. Now we are so far off topic we need to self critique and stop (humor noted ;-) > > But don't top-post :-) > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admi

Re: First NFS entry in fstab not mounting at boot

2010-05-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/16/2010 10:38 AM, BadMagic wrote: >>One solution is to use autofs ... it will mount on demand and >> therefore that problem -should- just go away (if thats the problem) >> >> gene/ >> > > That may work but I'd rather find out why it isn't working when it > should be. > > This i

Re: First NFS entry in fstab not mounting at boot

2010-05-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/16/2010 12:18 PM, BadMagic wrote: > > True - I'll try it. > > I tried changing the order as Sam suggested: > > [...@samlap ~ ]$ sudo chkconfig --del NetworkManager > [...@samlap ~ ]$ sudo chkconfig --add NetworkManager > [...@samlap ~ ]$ sudo chkconfig NetworkManager on > [...@samlap ~

Re: Best backup option

2010-05-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/18/2010 06:06 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 05/18/2010 03:50 PM, Jeff Sadino wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> I was wondering what everyone's opinion is as to the best >> command/program to use for backups? I don't need to preserve the >> partition table, basically just copy files to a backup

Re: Thunderbird Account Settings problem

2010-05-22 Thread Genes MailLists
Create a new account and go manual (not automatic) - if necessary force the automatic to fail by giving server host as dumbdumb.dumb (or anything it wont think it knows about) .. then set it up manually - after just change the host server to the correct one. -- users mailing list users@lists.f

Re: Need an eth0:1 temporarily, howto?

2010-05-23 Thread Genes MailLists
> It didn't appear that I had to, and thank you very much. > Routing, by default, for IP's on same subnet uses the network on that subnet. So no need to change or add any route. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

Re: Need an eth0:1 temporarily, howto?

2010-05-23 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/23/2010 12:06 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 23 May 2010, Genes MailLists wrote: >>> It didn't appear that I had to, and thank you very much. >> >> Routing, by default, for IP's on same subnet uses the network on that >> subnet. So no need to cha

Re: Need an eth0:1 temporarily, howto?

2010-05-23 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/23/2010 02:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > This is a single 3MB/s system. And I think it is slowing me down. I haven't > noted a download getting to 360kb/s yet, most wander around at about 150-200. You wont notice any problems till you get way above 3 Mb/s .. so no problems I'd imagin

Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/25/2010 05:41 AM, Tim wrote: >> You may have to build the indexes after the files are moved. > > Hmm, the sort of thing I was hoping to avoid. If I used a mail client > to move the mail, it'd move the messages in a manner that was directly > usable, straight away. Rather than play games d

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Genes MailLists
>> and makes a new entry. > > IOW it remembers it by logging it. How else would it do it except by > recording it in a file? > > poc > It is an suid program - it doesn't need a password unless the policy chooses to ask for one. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/26/2010 06:17 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > In short you are better off configuring sudo and calling > system-config-printer from the terminal like this, > > $ sudo system-config-printer > Sort of begs the question why the GUI does not use sudo ... let the gui do what it does best .. goo-eee .

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-28 Thread Genes MailLists
> On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 21:25 -0400, David Boles wrote: I took your post as self referential ... O.S (ob :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedorapro

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/30/2010 01:31 AM, g wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > The original announce was good. Do you know if there was a followup - with something like 'Hey All - we now have a test version of the new website - please take a look and let us know ... ' One of the strengths of open source mod

Tex and F13 - help please

2010-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
I see that F13 still has texlive 2007 which is too old for me to use and collaborate with my colleagues. So I will install the rpm's from CPAN - the downside is for some reason R requires the fedora texlive to install and I need R too ... Can someone help me make and RPM or something that tel

Re: Tex and F13 - help please

2010-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/30/2010 03:34 PM, Mohamed El Morabity wrote: > > Hi, > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-April/371585.html > > Bis repetita placent... > > Yes I am aware of that - and it has had a few glitches - if it was ready it would be in updates ... the fedora build seems to b

Re: Tex and F13 - help please

2010-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/30/2010 03:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/30/2010 03:34 PM, Mohamed El Morabity wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-April/371585.html >> Also the official release seems to be 2009 - also isn't 2

Re: Tex and F13 - help please

2010-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/30/2010 06:29 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sun, 30 May 2010, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> Genes MailLists wrote: >> >>> I see that F13 still has texlive 2007 which is too old for me to use >>> and collaborate with my colleagues. >> >> As a

fedora 13 - upgarding from DVD with no /boot

2010-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
I have an existing install (f10) with a root partition and /home partition. When I boot the install DVD - there is no screen which offers me a choice whether i want to upgrade or do a fresh install - it -assumes- I want to install fresh. Is this a bug or is there an option I need to put in so

Re: where does Network-Manager store its VPN settings?

2010-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/30/2010 09:56 PM, fred smith wrote: > > When using NM (in Gnome) to configure a VPN (Sysco, which uses vpnc as the > backend) where does it store the VPN configuration settings? > > Trying to find them so I can move them to a new F13 installation rather than > re-creating all of 'em. > > T

Re: F13: Delay in screen refresh

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 05:24 AM, Marco Guazzone wrote: Weird - I've seen similar when something is either occupying large CPU or large memory. If something has sucked up the memory and the application is paging off disk for example. Look for any processes which are taking up a lot of memory (run away

Re: fedora 13 - upgarding from DVD with no /boot

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/30/2010 07:34 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > I have an existing install (f10) with a root partition and /home partition. > > When I boot the install DVD - there is no screen which offers me a > choice whether i want to upgrade or do a fresh install - it -assumes- I &g

Re: F13: Delay in screen refresh

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 09:58 AM, Marco Guazzone wrote: > > Here below is the information you have asked > > But before you dig into it I want to say that it seem a problem of the > OpenBox window manager. > I say so since I've tried to use GNOME and apparently the problem > seems to be disappeared (for ins

Re: DVD Installer on USB...?

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 12:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: documentation does not work. > > I was convinced I'd actually done this, but my memory must be faulty. > I think it may be helpful to follow the advice of mcloaked earlier in the thread ... he explains how to make a bootable usb that works -

Re: fedora 13 - upgarding from DVD with no /boot

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 04:21 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I am not sure why that should be. The screen to Install or upgrade > should appear before you are asked to choose storage devices. There is > an error inn the Quick Start Guide which has the screen after you decide > on the storage reconfiguration

yum help 32 bit libs on 64 bit install

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
I have an x86_64 bit F13 installed. Now I need to add 32 bit libraries to be able to run some 32 bit executables ... I have been trying to do this 1 library at a time and it is tedious and hard to know if I am getting the right pieces. Run an app - watch errors - find 64bit version - do yum

f13 - gdm fails with no user list

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
Fresh install f13 - fully updated. As per usual on laptop - i ran gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults --type bool --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true So that gdm does not present user list to the world. Rebooted - gdm sc

Re: fedora 13 - upgarding from DVD with no /boot

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
> If I read all of the release info for F11, 12, and 13, you *must* move > from F10 to F11, you cannot go directly to F12 or F13. I tried with > pre-upgrade, and it failed masking the real error (which was that > upgrading to F13 was not possible from F10) and instead returning an > error saying

Re: f13 - gdm fails with no user list

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 07:40 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 18:40:55 -0400 > Genes MailLists wrote: > >> known bug or is there a new way to configure gdm now ? > > My favorite way to configure gdm is: > > cat > /etc/sysconfig/desktop > DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE

How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
I have (well had really) a bunch of printers set up - they all worked wonderfully ... I was running f12. I did a fresh install of f13 .. now does anyone know how to restore all the f12 printers onto f13 (I have backups of everything). Thanks! gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedo

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 08:55 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > 2010/5/31 Máirín Duffy : > In the spirit of 'its not dead yet' in the immortal words of monte python (pre 2.6 version .. :-) - as regards this thread anyway ! (1) I like the page - it is clean and clear and refreshing and I think serves its purpos

Re: How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 09:02 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 20:48:48 -0400 > Genes MailLists wrote: > >> I was running f12. I did a fresh install of f13 .. now does anyone >> know how to restore all the f12 printers onto f13 (I have backups of >> everything).

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2010 11:07 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:08 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> The question still stands. If only 19% of current Fedora users (a highly >>> technical bunch) make use of torrents, my guess is the majority of >>> new-to-Fedora users would also not. >>> >>> ~m

Re: How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-06-01 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/01/2010 04:25 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 21:35 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: >> > That printers.conf file plus the contents of the /etc/cups/ppd directory >> > may be all you need to copy, but that assumes the old ppd files >> > and wot-not are compatible, your mileage may vary

Re: Chromium by default?

2010-06-02 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/02/2010 11:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >> Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more >> than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable >> browser. >> > > I think that assertion is wrong. Firefox h

Re: Chromium by default?

2010-06-02 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/03/2010 12:08 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/03/2010 09:35 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> >> However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a >> while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than >> google-chrome - cannot tell y

Re: Chromium by default?

2010-06-02 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/03/2010 12:26 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: a remix before it is ready > wouldn't help at all in advancing anything. Quite the opposite. If > anyone is interested in fixing the issues, take a look at > > http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287 > > Rahul > Good issues

Re: F13 - goodnewws and bad news

2010-06-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/05/2010 09:56 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: think I admitted that what I wanted to do made little sense but > although separating / from /home in fdisk it is easy, it is pretty > confusing to do in the GUI partitioner in the installer. >> I found the installer partition tool beyond obvious. It

Re: How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-06-07 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/01/2010 01:20 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 06/01/2010 04:25 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: >> On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 21:35 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: >>>> That printers.conf file plus the contents of the /etc/cups/ppd directory >>>> may be all you need to copy, b

Re: How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-06-07 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/07/2010 12:10 PM, Tim Waugh wrote: > Take another look at the Device URIs in printers.conf -- are you sure > there are no credentials there? > > The "modern" way of doing this is to leave credentials out from the > Device URIs anyway and let CUPS/system-config-printer-applet prompt the > us

Re: How to recover printers on fresh install

2010-06-07 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/07/2010 12:23 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > Hah - you are right - i missed it somehow (dopyey me) .. they are in > the URI's ... if stored in keyring is fine too tho when passwords change > I have seen in the past the keyring not do well in forgetting the old > and

Re: Wireless T61 Problem

2010-06-07 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/07/2010 12:37 PM, Ray Curtis wrote: > I am having a problem configuring my wireless [Intel 4965AGN] on a > Lenovo T61 laptop, Fedora 13. > Thus far I have this config: > What is the output of /etc/init.d/network status /etc/init.d/NetworkManager status -- users mailing list use

Re: FlashPlayer-10.1.X86_64 RPM ?

2010-06-07 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/07/2010 10:21 PM, Brian Millett wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 15:05 -0400, Jim wrote: >> FC12/KDE >> >> Is there a Flashplayer-10.1-x86_64 RPM out there ? >> >> Adobe has the Flashplayer-10.1.tar.gz but it won't work on X86_64 . >> >> I know all about the Buggy FlashPlayer-10.0-x86_64 RPM >

Re: FlashPlayer-10.1.X86_64 RPM ?

2010-06-08 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/08/2010 06:43 AM, Luigi Castro Cardeles wrote: > > > This is were I check periodically: > > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html > > > I know all about the Buggy FlashPlayer-10.0-x86_64 RPM > > > Here i use this: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flash

Re: Wireless T61 Problem

2010-06-08 Thread Genes MailLists
network returns exactly that when its not running mike ... that's what mine says too ... network has no daemons. The network 'status' option just uses ifconfig to find and list interfaces and then runs ip -o link show up ... So it really isnt a problem when NM is on ... so now lets make sure tha

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/14/2010 03:10 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> > I moved to T-Bird from Claws (on Linux of course) a few years ago. I > generally use the version on T-Bird that is on the current Fedora repo. > The freeze condition that I see is just an annoying pain because it > occurs while I am typing. it i

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?) Kills 64-Bit Flash For Linux

2010-06-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/15/2010 12:56 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Well, 10.1 really "fixed" everything, didn't it? Even the Windows users had > major problems with it. > > A kernel fault? Bad code, probably. Do programmers do flow charts anymore? > Userland apps can only trigger kernel oops if there is a k

Re: NFS

2010-06-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/15/2010 04:21 AM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 13:57 -0500, Dale J. Chatham wrote: >> Had the original admonishment been made in private > > This also comes up from time to time. It is a good thing to > occasionally publicly say don't top list, so that more than one person > sees the

Re: how to download videos

2010-06-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/16/2010 11:52 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > that's correct, but if it possible to get /download that video from the > terminal? like by typing the URL containing the video or fetch video id. > or something like that and than downloading, though GUI downloader > plugin does that. > > thx tim.

Re: Adobe (Temporarily?)... VHS vs Beta

2010-06-18 Thread Genes MailLists
Where is the driver for VHS or Betamax tapes ? yum install betamax betamax is dead yum install vhs vhs not found - did you mean devhelp.i686 ? Is this a little off topic maybe :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription option

Re: Thunderbird 3.1

2010-06-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/19/2010 04:35 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Saturday 19 June 2010 08:55 AM, mike cloaked wrote: >> Then download the tarball of the version you are interested in - for example: >> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/3.1rc2/linux-i686/en-GB/thunderbird-3.1rc2.tar.bz2

Re: f13: Firefox wont start if the ~/.mozilla/ is a sym link

2010-06-19 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/19/2010 05:03 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:50:26 +0200 > Dario Lesca wrote: > >> It's a bug? > > They apparently claim it is a feature, not a bug. > In fact, nothing in the path to ~/.mozilla can be > a symlink, so something like /home as a symlink > also doesn't work. >

Re: Thunderbird 3.1

2010-06-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/20/2010 04:53 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 06/19/10 23:56, Genes MailLists wrote: >> On 06/19/2010 04:35 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> yes a little but there's a few 686 libs that need to be installed and >> it works fine thereafter. > > ... but not all addons

Re: Thunderbird 3.1

2010-06-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/20/2010 11:05 AM, David Boles wrote: > On 6/20/2010 4:53 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > Does this help with your problem? > > Nightly Tester Tools Lite 0.2.2 > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/1391/ > Ahhh that makes sense .. :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedo

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/25/2010 01:56 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Yes thanks much. I appreciate the help and will save this for reference. > > Bob > . > or perhaps just: rsync -av b...@original_computer:/home/bobg/.thunderbird . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/25/2010 05:56 PM, Greg Woods wrote: Historical thoughts on RBL: You've had several suggestions so just a couple of comments. The MAPS list (aka rbl) was an/the original DNSBL - if I remember right it went weird a long back and required you fill out a long legal doc (with a pen) which i

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/25/2010 09:26 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: Forgot one thing. For all the hosts you trust - google mx's, yahoo mx etc. Remove the GreetPause delay: e.g. GreetPause:mail-bw0-f1.google.com0 gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/26/2010 07:13 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: [b...@box9 ~]$ rsync -av b...@box6:/home/bobg/.thunderbird . > > The message was lost. This does a fine job of making both sets of > mail files the same, effectively replacing the box9 files with the > box6 mail files which was what

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-26 Thread Genes MailLists
In case you missed this post - here is a reasonable recipe based on many years of senamil server admin'ing - feel free to modify, improve or ignore! On 06/25/2010 09:26 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > >1) FEATURE(`enhdnsbl', `bl.spamcop.net', `', `t', `12

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/26/2010 12:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > settings. > > As you probably know, the way to limit this is via folder subscriptions. > Also, I don't download IMAP mail but rather access it online. That > depends on your needs of course. > TB always downloads if GLODA is on ... best turn

Re: T-bird pop mail files -

2010-06-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/26/2010 12:24 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: The rsync man page has a very long list of options and the > functional descriptions are not as clear as they might be but it > appears that the "-u" option accomplishes what I need, at least it > worked for a test message I sent to myself a

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/26/2010 07:57 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > THANKS! I have implemented the above recommendations > as well as a few other advices in this posting. > > Thanks to all who participated - all very interesting to > know how others have tackled the their spam issues. > > I will report how it a

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
DKIM signed emails: Not directly anti-spam but very related. Major outbound MX mail is generally signed by DKIM (or domainkeys). While I am not yet making rejection decisions on sigatures that fail - I do have my mail client color them green/red when a DKIM/DK sig is good/bad. I also ensure

Re: Thunderbird 3.1 and enigmail

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/27/2010 10:59 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> >> maybe you should have a look at; >> >>http://enigmail.mozdev.org/news/index.php >> >> > I was just curious to see if I could get T-Bird and enigmail to ignore > the version warning. AFAIK, enigmail has never really supported 64-bits. > The only

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/27/2010 12:45 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: good so far, but I will report back in a couple more days... > > I wanted to mention that there are some in this posting that > are recommending greylisting... but have not said anything > about how this is implemented into sendmail... so, what is

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/27/2010 01:11 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > Additionally - some of the gray list tools may not perform well if the first reject is back to MX-host-1 and the next queue flush comes from MX_host-2. gmail, as an example, uses over 2,500 outbound mx hosts ... if queues are

Re: Thunderbird shortcut for "Ignore thread"

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/27/2010 04:53 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Sunday 27 June 2010 01:31 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: > Would it be a worthwhile feature request? Then I would file an RFE on > the bugzilla. > Curious - How would you want it to behave differently than marking it as junk mail ? -- users mailing l

Re: Thunderbird 3.1 and enigmail

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/27/2010 05:37 PM, Remi Collet wrote: >> You are correct, I stand corrected. The enigmain main page only states >> 32-bit, but when you click on the download page you can get the 64-bit >> version. > > addons.mozilla only provides extensions for official package. > And mozilla only provides 3

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/27/2010 09:47 PM, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 14:08 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: >> So if you're gonna gray list - please whitelist all the standard ISP >> outbound mx hosts ... > > That's gotta be a huge list. And won't some of them be spam

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/27/2010 10:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/28/2010 09:47 AM, Tim wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 14:08 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: >> > Maybemaybe not > > I just checked the logs from one client. There were multiple spam with > email addresse

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/27/2010 10:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/28/2010 10:13 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> I prefer the obvious and simple 'outbound MX host' ... > IMHO, using a patently incorrect terminology only leads to confusion, > mis-understanding, and results in ignorance

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/28/2010 05:05 AM, Alan Cox wrote: >> I believe that's what SPF is supposed to solve. Sites advertise in >> their DNS records which the "official" outgoing email servers are. > > Spammers advertise SPF records of 'the whole internet' (normally split > into chunks to confuse checkers) and tu

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/27/2010 11:56 PM, jdow wrote: >> This splat-with-no wait is classic of spammers - e.g. a pc bot - they >> program them to send the header, send the body. close. This kind of bot >> will not get through the greet pause delay. > > Gene, Ed mentioned this and I will, too. The "DUH", the reall

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/28/2010 12:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/28/2010 11:56 AM, Tim wrote: >> Only a few thousand? What do you think is a huge list? And that's just >> your list of mail servers for one service... What about the other ISPs, >> the thousands of them? >> > Having a look at the SPF records..

Re: Sendmail: How does one blacklist annoying spammers?

2010-06-28 Thread Genes MailLists
(1) Perhaps people are not familiar with how GreetPause works. It was introduced in sendmail 8.13.x Upon the socket connection, ordinarily sendmail opens the SMTP transaction with a Greeting - if the sending agent respects the protocol it will wait for this greeting before sending anyt

periodic erros from mem card

2010-06-28 Thread Genes MailLists
When I plug a SD mem card into my laptop - it usually works fine .. but once every N times I get this: mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card If I reboot it works fine but taking card out and repluggin only produces the same error ... Any suggestions how to make it work without re

Re: periodic erros from mem card

2010-06-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/28/2010 10:40 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > When I plug a SD mem card into my laptop - it usually works fine .. > but once every N times I get this: > >mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card > > If I reboot it works fine but taking card out and repluggi

Re: periodic erros from mem card

2010-06-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/28/2010 11:06 PM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:41 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: >> Unplugging and replugging 6 or 7 times and it worked. > > Dirty contacts on the card or in the reader? > possibly - card is clean - ill clean the reader best I can ...

Re: Left mouse button stops working periodically

2010-06-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/30/2010 09:38 AM, Wendell Nichols wrote: > 3 times in about as many weeks my left mouse button has ceased to > function. I cannot associate this with any particular activity. > Because you can't do much without that button I have to reboot my laptop > to get out of it. This mouse is a b

Re: Left mouse button stops working periodically

2010-07-03 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/01/2010 08:59 AM, Roger K. Wells wrote: > On 06/30/2010 09:05 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: >>> >> That Bluetooth mouse problem is a side effect of some ill-advised power >> management in the kernel. >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570291 >> >> That bug doesn't seem to be

Re: Question on /etc/hosts

2010-07-04 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/04/2010 10:34 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Should the entry from the machine in question > be given under 127.0.0.1 > or under its IP address on the local LAN? > 127.0.0.1 should only have localhost stuff associate the IP with hostname gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-05 Thread Genes MailLists
What about allowing subscribers of f...@lists.f.o to be allowed to post to b...@lists.f.o. The benefit of registration is the same - and it would allow an occasional cross post without subscribing ? gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscri

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/05/2010 05:39 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: o times the ml) > > This comes from some folks sending mail to the old > fedora-l...@redhat.com address. I've not looked closely to see > whether we can fix that up. It would likely take a little work at the > system level on the mailman server and p

Re: Thunderbird Fonts

2010-07-15 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/15/2010 12:58 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > I know how to change the font size for the message pane in Thunderbird > (^-/^+). What I'd like to do is reduce the font size in the folders > pane (so that I can see more folders in the list). I looked through the > about:config and nothing jump

Re: Thunderbird Fonts

2010-07-15 Thread Genes MailLists
Sure - you might start here: http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html g -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guideli

Re: os that rather uses the gpu?

2010-07-15 Thread Genes MailLists
I've seen 1-2 orders of magnitude speedups in real world usage (using nvidia GPU's in otherwise high end but standard equipment) - was really impressive - don't get caught up in technical minutia like whether a flop is useful metric - using the GPU can be an enormous speed gain. Test it for your

Re: os that rather uses the gpu?

2010-07-16 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/16/2010 08:07 PM, Robert Myers wrote: We ett that this stuff may not help your problem domain - don't assume all problems look like the one(s) you are interested in. This stuff is useful - I have seen it as have many others ... it is not a panacea ... stop harping please ... and try

Re: New Update has no kmod for new kernel and new nvidia driver

2010-07-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/18/2010 11:14 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: akmod solves all these problems - why are we trying to find additional and more complicated solutions ? It is what akmod was designed to do. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://a

Re: Encrypted VM's (was Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...)

2010-07-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/20/2010 03:11 PM, Michael Semcheski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM, wrote: >> Just in general, what's the point in having server-disks (either local or >> "in-the-cloud" encrypted? >> As soon as you start them up, all we be de-crypted and your system is only >> protected by norm

Re: Gnome shell and NVidia binary drivers

2011-06-02 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/02/2011 09:22 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: May be somewhat related (you may need to fix line wraps in URL from silly text mail) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_managers1&num=1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3

2011-06-02 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/02/2011 02:57 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > > My biggest problem with Gnome 3 is that things that I could do by moving > the mouse, and a single mouse click, now needs several moves and several > mouse clicks, this severely disrupts my work flow. At the moment I have > moved to Xfce (w

Re: yum update error in fedora 15

2011-06-03 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/03/2011 03:11 AM, sandeep Patel wrote: > > > > > error was > > 14: curl#5 - "Couldn't resolve proxy" > > Could not retrieve mirrorlist > > Looks like you didnt set it up corre

Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3

2011-06-03 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/03/2011 05:39 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: ings. > > Ideally extensions should be made available on an addons site similar to > what Firefox has. Then the timing problems becomes slightly less of an > issue. > Nothing like that is available at this moment though (help welcome:). > > At the momen

Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3

2011-06-03 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/03/2011 05:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/03/2011 12:30 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 11:44:36AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: Not quite. The addon site is run by Mozilla itself, there's at least a >> Only the site. The addons itself are made by various developers. >> >

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