Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 11May2020 11:51, Ed Greshko wrote: Just want to make sure you saw my response to your original post Subject: user crontab? The MTA has to be running in order for mail from cron to be processed. Robert doesn't want to put an MTA in. It looks like the cron -m argument lets you specify the

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 2020-05-11 15:34, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 11May2020 11:51, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Just want to make sure you saw my response to your original post Subject: >> user crontab? >> >> The MTA has to be running in order for mail from cron to be processed. > > Robert doesn't want to put an MTA in.

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 2020-05-11 15:45, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I'm also confused by the need to create headers before feeding anything to > procmail since > cron generate a fully formatted mail message as noted in the -m option. > OK, I cleared up my confusion on this one.  I set -m of crond to a script that saved

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

Hi Samuel what do I need to change in Thunderbird, so that the messages arrive correctly? suomi On 11/05/2020 08.26, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/10/20 11:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/10/20 11:18 PM, fedora wrote: Do you find anything in journalctl -b 0 Why do your emails break threading?  A

Autofs problem after upgrade to F32

Hi, I've upgraded my NFS providing system to Fedora 32 and now the client running autofs can't mount as it could before the upgrade. /var/log/messages shows: May 11 10:48:25 siffux automount[3929]: attempting to mount entry /misc/Media May 11 10:48:25 siffux automount[3929]: >> mount.nfs: an inc

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

Hi Samuel root@caprioli ~]# blkid /dev/sda1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="7EF7-93B1" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTLABEL="efi boot" PARTUUID="28d3209c-111e-48eb-a08d-d304b43f8029" /dev/sda2: UUID="721f4b77-4230-403c-8cd7-142b9c37eb52" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="ext4" PARTLABEL="data11" PARTUUID="27

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 16:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > It is then the MTA, in my case postfix, which adds the additional > headers. I always thought they did that, anyway. e.g. My mail client *could* send a date with a message, and the email program *could* add a date to an undated message, or re

Re: Autofs problem after upgrade to F32

On Mon, 11 May 2020, Frank Elsner wrote: Hi, I've upgraded my NFS providing system to Fedora 32 and now the client running autofs can't mount as it could before the upgrade. /var/log/messages shows: May 11 10:48:25 siffux automount[3929]: attempting to mount entry /misc/Media May 11 10:48:25

[SOLVED] Autofs problem after upgrade to F32

On Mon, 11 May 2020 11:00:18 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > Hi, > > I've upgraded my NFS providing system to Fedora 32 and now the client running > autofs can't mount as it could before the upgrade. Forget my question/problem ... it disappeared. Can't say why. Can't say what I did in detail. --Fr

Re: [SOLVED] Autofs problem after upgrade to F32

On Mon, 11 May 2020 11:33:57 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > On Mon, 11 May 2020 11:00:18 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've upgraded my NFS providing system to Fedora 32 and now the client > > running > > autofs can't mount as it could before the upgrade. > > Forget my question/problem

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

On 11/05/2020 08.28, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/10/20 3:21 AM, fedora wrote: [cellino@caprioli ~]$ cat /proc/cmdline BOOT_IMAGE=(hd3,gpt5)/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.10-300.fc32.x86_64 root=UUID=3f218a1e-7f30-48b1-add4-fb17bff5a6b5 ro resume=UUID=0d51db0e-8463-4741-8bbe-d907fb2b1cb2 What is the output

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 2020-05-11 17:20, Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 16:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> It is then the MTA, in my case postfix, which adds the additional >> headers. > I always thought they did that, anyway. > > e.g. My mail client *could* send a date with a message, and the email > pro

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 08:28, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-10 19:15, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > > > On 5/10/20 2:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> I don't used gnome software tools to update. However, I think I read > that the gnome stuff does now > >> use dnf. > > Yeah, I want to do the same.

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 14:07, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > On Sun, 10 May 2020 12:20:44 -0400 > Jonathan Billings wrote: > > > On May 10, 2020, at 11:54, George N. White III > > wrote: > > > > > >  > > >> On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 12:00, Jonathan Billings > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> On May 10, 2020, a

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

What is the setting of your GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX ? Did you set up this swap after the install manually ? On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 3:12 PM fedora wrote: > > > On 11/05/2020 08.28, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 5/10/20 3:21 AM, fedora wrote: > >> [cellino@caprioli ~]$ cat /proc/cmdline > >> BOOT_IMAGE=

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

> > Quoting from an Above the Line, Below the Line in ACM Queue by Richard I. > Cook, M.D. > “Near-constant effort is required to calibrate and refresh the > understanding of the workings, dependencies, limitations, and capabilities > of what is presen

Re: 5.6 kernel is slower to boot

> > FWIW, you can ignore anything that takes less than a second. You can > probably mask NetworkManager-wait-online and can definitely mask > ModemManager unless you're actually using a modem. Not much, but it's a > start. I don't think that will help but I have no idea why dracut suddenly is n

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-11 19:52, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > Quoting from an Above the Line, Below the Line in ACM Queue by Richard I. > Cook, M.D. >  “Near-constant effort is required to calibrate and refresh the > understanding of the workings, depend

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

> > To your issue, no. > To my comment about learning/determining how GNOME does system-upgrades, > yes. Is there a Fedora Gnome team that I can reach out to ? On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 5:28 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-11 19:52, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > > > Quoting from an Above t

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

Hi Sreyan [root@caprioli ~]$ cat /etc/default/grub GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)" GRUB_DEFAULT=saved GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="resume=UUID=0d51db0e-8463-4741-8bbe-d907fb2b1cb2" GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVE

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-11 20:04, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > To your issue, no. > To my comment about learning/determining how GNOME does system-upgrades, > yes.   > > > Is there a Fedora Gnome team that I can reach out to ?  > I don't know  But, I still think this is a very minor issue that pr

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I also think it is a good idea to see the format of what procmail is > getting from cron and comparing it to what ends up delivered by an > MTA such as postfix. > > From egreshko . is missing along with > Return-Path: > Delivered-To: > Rec

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 08:28 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > At my work, mail was being used for cron, at, logwatch, and > ad-hoc workflows when policies changed (mail should be > generated or read by non-humans). I actually liked logwatch. I got a summary of how things were going along in m

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 2020-05-11 20:14, Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> I also think it is a good idea to see the format of what procmail is >> getting from cron and comparing it to what ends up delivered by an >> MTA such as postfix. >> >> From egreshko . is missing

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

You are not using any encryption like LUKS, are you ? On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 5:43 PM fedora wrote: > Hi Sreyan > > [root@caprioli ~]$ cat /etc/default/grub > GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 > GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)" > GRUB_DEFAULT=saved > GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true > GRU

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

> > I don't know But, I still think this is a very minor issue that > probably won't happen again. I hope so. Lets leave it at that then. On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 5:46 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-11 20:04, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > > > To your issue, no. > > To my comment

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 5/11/20 8:14 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: I also think it is a good idea to see the format of what procmail is getting from cron and comparing it to what ends up delivered by an MTA such as postfix. From egreshko . is missing along with

Re: user crontab

On 5/10/20 11:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-07 06:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I know I can edit the user crontab with: crontab -e and display it with crontab -l But where is it?  I don't see anything like ~/.crontab Secondly, and more importantly, is getting a email from the user cr

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 2020-05-11 20:33, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > The biggie is no DATE: header.  And the MTA can only apply a DATE: header for > the time it received the cron output.  The time the cron task started is > lost.  This is a bug in cron from day 1, it seems and I will be submitting  > this whole sheban

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 5/10/20 11:51 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-11 11:33, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I almost have it... On 5/10/20 7:03 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have been digging for how to do today and found something interesting: Back in Fedora 20, there was no MTA! https://www.mhonarc.org/archive

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 5/11/20 8:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-11 20:33, Robert Moskowitz wrote: The biggie is no DATE: header.  And the MTA can only apply a DATE: header for the time it received the cron output.  The time the cron task started is lost.  This is a bug in cron from day 1, it seems and I wi

Update Teamviewer in Fedora 32.

Hi All, When updating (sudo dnf or yum update) I get the following message : TeamViewer Internal (Dev Nightly Packages.x86_64) Errors during downloading metadata for repository tvinternal dev curl error(6) could not resolve hostname for http://lnxrelease-02/yum/stable/main/binary-x86_64/

Re: Update Teamviewer in Fedora 32.

I've got that few updates ago, there is a file in /etc/yum.repos.d/tvinternal.repo I guess that was added by mistake? Remove it or disable repos inside that file. --- Best regards, Alex ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, May 11, 2020 3:02 PM, Ger van Dijck wrote: > Hi All, > > When

Re: user crontab

On 2020-05-11 20:39, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > And now you are paying the memory, cpu, etc. cost of having postfix running Oh, well, I suppose I've never seen an idle postfix take up any noticeable CPU time or memory on any of my systems. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good quest

Re: user crontab

On 5/11/20 9:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-11 20:39, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And now you are paying the memory, cpu, etc. cost of having postfix running Oh, well, I suppose I've never seen an idle postfix take up any noticeable CPU time or memory on any of my systems. How can it not

Re: user crontab

On 2020-05-11 21:45, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 5/11/20 9:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-11 20:39, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> And now you are paying the memory, cpu, etc. cost of having postfix running >> Oh, well, I suppose I've never seen an idle postfix take up any noticeable >>

system upgrade from F28 to F31: problem with installed package NetworkManager-libnm

Hi, I would like to upgrade a system from F28 to F31. But I get the following error: Problem: problem with installed package NetworkManager-libnm-1:1.10.12-3.fc28.x86_64 - package NetworkManager-libnm-1:1.20.10-1.fc31.x86_64 conflicts with NetworkManager-glib < 1:1.20.10-1.fc31 provided by Net

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

On 5/11/20 2:00 AM, fedora wrote: what do I need to change in Thunderbird, so that the messages arrive correctly? That one worked, so I have no idea what you did before. But it would be better if you replied below and deleted the mailing list footer instead of top-posting. _

Re: system upgrade from F28 to F31: problem with installed package NetworkManager-libnm

On 5/11/20 9:47 AM, Frédéric wrote: I would like to upgrade a system from F28 to F31. But I get the following error: Only skipping a single version is "supported". You should upgrade to either F29 or F30 before going to F31. I would recommend F29 if you want to get to F31 or else go to F30,

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/10/20 4:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: It does look as if a system upgrade using the gnome tools does something different. I suppose I should learn what it doessomeday.:-) GNOME uses a system called PackageKit. It makes sense I will be having more kernels even though I have 3 install cand

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

Can someone please tell me the difference between these 2 drivers of Xorg ? xorg-x11-drv-amdgpu xorg-x11-drv-ati They both seem to do the same thing. Regards, Sreyan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an ema

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/11/20 12:23 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: On 5/10/20 4:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: It does look as if a system upgrade using the gnome tools does something different. I suppose I should learn what it doessomeday.:-) GNOME uses a system called PackageKit. It makes sense I will be having

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/12/20 1:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: PackageKit uses dnf (or at least libdnf) to do the work. And the mystery deepens... Then why isn't it respecting my settings? -- Regards, Sreyan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/11/20 1:03 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: On 5/12/20 1:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: PackageKit uses dnf (or at least libdnf) to do the work. And the mystery deepens... Then why isn't it respecting my settings? Just wait for the next kernel update and see what happens.

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-12 03:23, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > On 5/10/20 4:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> It does look as if a system upgrade using the gnome tools does something >> different. >> I suppose I should learn what it doessomeday.:-) > > GNOME uses a system called PackageKit. It makes sense I wil

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

Zen and the Art of Linux (Fedora version) requires patience. It is best to observe and learn. "The secret of Zen is just two words: not always so." -Shunryn Suzuki Roshi. On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 16:04, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > > On 5/12/20 1:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > PackageKit uses dnf

Locking files to queue script

My continuing educational journey. It was pointed out to me that at least procmail will lock the mail file whereas my script was not.  So I decided to see what it would take to add locking. I found https://www.putorius.net/lock-files-bash-scripts.html, and part of it is not making sense to m

Re: Autofs problem after upgrade to F32

On Mon, 11 May 2020 10:29:58 +0100 (BST) Michael Young wrote: > On Mon, 11 May 2020, Frank Elsner wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've upgraded my NFS providing system to Fedora 32 and now the client > > running > > autofs can't mount as it could before the upgrade. > > > > /var/log/messages shows: > >

Re: Locking files to queue script

On 5/11/20 2:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I found https://www.putorius.net/lock-files-bash-scripts.html, and part of it is not making sense to me. The following is suppose to be an example of making a script waiting indefinitely for the an earlier instance to complete: #!/bin/bash  exec 1

Re: Locking files to queue script

On 5/11/20 5:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/11/20 2:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I found https://www.putorius.net/lock-files-bash-scripts.html, and part of it is not making sense to me. The following is suppose to be an example of making a script waiting indefinitely for the an earlier in

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-12 04:33, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/11/20 1:03 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: >> >> On 5/12/20 1:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> PackageKit uses dnf (or at least libdnf) to do the work. >> >> And the mystery deepens... >> >> Then why isn't it respecting my settings? > > Just wait for the n

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/11/20 4:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-12 04:33, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/11/20 1:03 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: On 5/12/20 1:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: PackageKit uses dnf (or at least libdnf) to do the work. And the mystery deepens... Then why isn't it respecting my settings?

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-12 07:12, Samuel Sieb wrote: > Does that mean that PackageKit doesn't respect the install_only setting > during a system upgrade?  Sounds like a bug.  I wonder if there are other  > settings it neglects then as well. It would appear so There is a dnf transaction history for the s

thank you - cron mailer script

I want to thank all of you for your help and forbearance. The script is working to my satisfaction, though I still have to see tonight if it again throws an selinux alert for the logwatch cron task. Next I will probably be active over on the procmail list as I rewrite this using formail and p

Is there a program to build gtk pop ups?

Hi All, I am trying to figure out how to create a fill in form with GTK. City, State, zip, ec. with defaults. You fill in the form and press okay or cancel. Is there such a program that will help me build this and spurt out C code to use in my program? Many thanks, -T

Re: Is there a program to build gtk pop ups?

On 5/11/20 8:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > I am trying to figure out how to create a fill in form > with GTK.  City, State, zip, ec. with defaults.  You > fill in the form and press okay or cancel. > > Is there such a program that will help me build this > and spurt out C code

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-12 07:23, Ed Greshko wrote: > Maybe I'd call it a "transient bug"?  For completeness I restored the "Before" snapshot and ran pkcon upgrade-system 32 from the command line.  I expected it to download the packages and tell me to reboot to complete the process.  But it didn't.  It upg

Re: Is there a program to build gtk pop ups?

On 5/11/20 6:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am trying to figure out how to create a fill in form with GTK.  City, State, zip, ec. with defaults.  You fill in the form and press okay or cancel. Is there such a program that will help me build this and spurt out C code to use in my program?

Re: FreeIPA Users cannot log in via GDM after upgrade to Fedora 32

Hello John, Turning on Debug logging for GDM I see the following: May 04 17:35:01 xlt6.i.xrs444.net gdm[1118]: GdmSession: Emitting 'session-exited' signal with exit code '70' May 04 17:35:01 xlt6.i.xrs444.net gdm[1118]: GdmManager: session exited with status 70 May 04 17:35:01 xlt6.i.xrs444.net

Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 08:48 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Yes. You are saying that it is ok for cron to be depended on an > MTA. that no MDA is available that does this correctly. That "out > of the box" cron is lessed on a workstation that really should not > need an MTA. I don't think it i