HTTPD shutting down every night

2018-11-07 Thread Scott van Looy via users
Hi, Since the upgrade to F29 my HTTPD has been shutting down around 3am every night. I’d like to try and investigate why, but the only thing in the log is: [mpm_event:notice] [pid 1096508:tid 140027704744192] AH00492: caught SIGWINCH, shutting down gracefully These all happen at roughly the sam

Re: Serious F29 Problem - For me!

2018-11-07 Thread Suse Shi
Hi John, try if the similar issue as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1536237 w/r is to downgrade version to: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.19.5-1. ja 于2018年11月7日周三 上午2:30写道: > On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 12:19 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 15:34:09 + > > ja wrote: >

Re: Serious F29 Problem - For me!

2018-11-07 Thread Ian Chapman
On 06/11/2018 23:34, ja wrote: I conclude that there is something in my ~/.config or ~/.cache that F29 cannot handle during the login phase or shortly after. There are 11323 files in ~/.config and 5431 in ~/.cache Worse still when I return to my F28 machine as ja then problems are now present o

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-07 Thread Andras Simon
2018-11-07 8:58 GMT+01:00, Ron Yorston : > Matthew Miller wrote: >>While I can't disagree with the general sentiment, I certainly hope Fedora >>isn't being pigeonholed into "bleeding edge". Fedora also certainly "just >>works". > > Except when it doesn't. In the week since F29 was released I've >

Re: HTTPD shutting down every night

2018-11-07 Thread Andy Blanchard
On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 10:40, Scott van Looy via users wrote: > Since the upgrade to F29 my HTTPD has been shutting down around 3am every > night. I’d like to try and investigate why, but the only thing in the log is: > [mpm_event:notice] [pid 1096508:tid 140027704744192] AH00492: caught > SIGWIN

Re: Serious F29 Problem - For me!

2018-11-07 Thread ja
On Wed, 2018-11-07 at 18:15 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote: > On 06/11/2018 23:34, ja wrote: > > > I conclude that there is something in my ~/.config or ~/.cache > > that F29 cannot handle during the login phase or shortly after. > > There are 11323 files in ~/.config > > and 5431 in ~/.cache > > > > W

problem file copy to external disk

2018-11-07 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
Hi, I copy many films (i.e. 30GB at once) to a ntfs formatted disk. 1 or 2 or more films of them end with input/output error. A repeated copy of the unsuccessful copied film into the same file folder ends also with input/output error, changing the name of this film still ends with input/output

lyx update

2018-11-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I run dnf update (fedora 28), but lyx has not been updated I am still running lyx-2.2.4-1.fc26.x86_64 How to force the update ? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Labo

Re: lyx update

2018-11-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
> > Hello, > > I run dnf update (fedora 28), but lyx has not been updated > I am still running lyx-2.2.4-1.fc26.x86_64 > How to force the update ? > Sorry, it is a mistake, I was logged on another machine running fedora 26 ___ users mailing list -- use

Re: lyx update

2018-11-07 Thread Jon Ingason
Den 2018-11-07 kl. 14:30, skrev Patrick Dupre: > Hello, > > I run dnf update (fedora 28), but lyx has not been updated > I am still running lyx-2.2.4-1.fc26.x86_64 > How to force the update ? Have you tried: $ sudo dnf update lyx $ dnf info lyx gives: ... Namn : lyx Version : 2.3

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-07 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 06:18:10PM +, vipul kumar via users wrote: Greetings, I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should I choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system? tl;dr: They're both fine. Details: I have both systems on a few machines, although in

Re: HTTPD shutting down every night

2018-11-07 Thread Roger Heflin
this is the daily logrotate process. it rotates the log files and reloads httpd. It is normal. A number of other process will also restart at the same time. See: cat /etc/logrotate.d/httpd /var/log/httpd/*log { missingok notifempty sharedscripts delaycompress postrotate

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/6/18 11:58 PM, Ron Yorston wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: >> While I can't disagree with the general sentiment, I certainly hope Fedora >> isn't being pigeonholed into "bleeding edge". Fedora also certainly "just >> works". > > Except when it doesn't. In the week since F29 was released I've

Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread David A. De Graaf
When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. This crucial piece of the release is missing at all the mirror sites I've visited and, indeed, the file that lists checks

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: This crucial piece of the release is missing at all the mirror sites I've visited and, indeed, the file that lists checksums for all the Spins omits mention of the Xfce-Live version. What I did was to run the ISO as a CDROM from one of my virtual m

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 12:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: >> When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce >> Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. >> I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. >> >> This crucial piece

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/07/2018 01:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And the Xfce mailing list is down.  Maybe they got tired of the bitching. Try their forum at http://forum.xfce.org/index.php ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe s

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/7/18 3:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: I did find one place:   https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/download/index.html that offers to "Download Fedora 29 Xfce Desktop", and I have done so. However, there's no checksum that I've been able to discov

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread AV
On Wed, 2018-11-07 at 20:21 +, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > I did find one place: > > https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/download/index.html > > that offers to "Download Fedora 29 Xfce Desktop", and I have done > > so. > > However, there's no checksum that I've been able to discover. > > If

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/11/18 10:17 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/7/18 5:43 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:     When I start one of the two vpn definitions, that have been in networkmanager for years and used to work fine (I haven't used them in quite a while), it starts and I get a pop-up message saying that interface

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/5/18 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: ToddAndMargo: I am struggling with this one as well. To the best of my googling, it seems that the "sync" command needs to be done before clicking "safely remove" (or whatever). Documentation also says that "sudo umount " should do it, but I have

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 1:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 11/5/18 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> ToddAndMargo: >> >> I am struggling with this one as well. To the best of my googling, it >> seems that the "sync" command needs to be done before clicking "safely >> remove" (or whatever). Document

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Wed, 2018-11-07 at 14:53 -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote: > When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce > Spin .iso. As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. > I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. > > This crucial piece of the release is missing at all

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/8/18 5:31 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > Thanks Ed, I issued that command and fed the output into grep to search for > tun0, and > found messages saying that the device was successfully activated, and then > about 30 > seconds later a message saying the connection timed out, and then almost a

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The > last

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This is the dismount part of my script: sync; sync umount $StickTarget Calling sync twice? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to u

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/8/18 6:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > > On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> >> >> This is the dismount part of my script: >> >> sync; sync >> umount $StickTarget >> >> > > Calling sync twice? Must be an "old" person.  It was common practice back in the ear

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/7/18 5:52 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This is the dismount part of my script: sync; sync umount $StickTarget Calling sync twice? Dates back at least (in my memory) to VAX 11/750, BSD 4.2 days. -- Tim Evans

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 2:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/8/18 5:31 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> Thanks Ed, I issued that command and fed the output into grep to search for >> tun0, and >> found messages saying that the device was successfully activated, and then >> about 30 >> seconds later a message saying

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with no led indicator, how can I test from my

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Richard England
On 11/7/18 3:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/8/18 6:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This is the dismount part of my script: sync; sync umount $StickTarget Calling sync twice? Must be an "old" person.  It was common practice

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/07/2018 03:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/8/18 6:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This is the dismount part of my script: sync; sync umount $StickTarget Calling sync twice? Must be an "old" person.  It was common pr

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/8/18 7:55 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Yes, HW clock set to GMT (well, technically UTC) for Linux is standard. > The local time is computed based on your timezone. I have the HW clock > set to UTC on all my machines and I see the correct local time in my > logs. Well, we were talking about "tim

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up launcher panels n

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 4:06 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > > On 11/07/2018 03:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/8/18 6:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >>> >>> On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This is the dismount part of my script:   sync; sync   umount

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread Richard England
On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users > wrote:     On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Four machines

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with no led indicator, how can I tes

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 2:52 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This is the dismount part of my script: sync; sync umount $StickTarget Calling sync twice? Bad habits die hard ___ users mailing li

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 3:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote: On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users > wrote:     On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/8/18 7:55 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> Yes, HW clock set to GMT (well, technically UTC) for Linux is standard. >> The local time is computed based on your timezone. I have the HW clock >> set to UTC on all my machines and I see the correct local time in m

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 4:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote: >> On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users >>>

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/7/18 4:24 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/7/18 3:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to m

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 4:30 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/7/18 4:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote: On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users mailto:user

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Fulko Hew
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 8:03 PM Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > > On 11/07/2018 03:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 11/8/18 6:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > >> > >> On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >>> > >>> This is the dismount part of my script: > >>> > >>> sync; sync

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/07/2018 05:08 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 8:03 PM Paul Allen Newell mailto:pnewell0...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 11/07/2018 03:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/8/18 6:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >> On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wr

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce > Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. > I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. > > This crucial piece of the release is missing at all the mirror sit

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rick Stevens writes: At least you do have other options with Fedora. Not so easy with, say, Ubuntu. Switching desktops on it is a bit more convoluted. I've never tried it myself, but I've heard stories... My work laptop runs Ubuntu, and I switched it to the XFCE desktop. I do not remembe

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/07/2018 04:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/7/18 4:06 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/07/2018 03:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/8/18 6:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This is the dismount part of my script:   sync; sync

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/07/2018 06:12 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/07/2018 05:08 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 8:03 PM Paul Allen Newell mailto:pnewell0...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 11/07/2018 03:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/8/18 6:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >>

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread Richard Shaw
I haven't tried XFCE in a while but I have recently installed the LXDE spin on a couple of older computers. I've had some issues that were mostly fixed by packages in updates-testing but the combination that has worked best for me is replacing LXDE with SDDM for login purposes. Thanks, Richard ___

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 12:20:02AM +, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/7/18 4:06 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > On 11/07/2018 03:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 11/8/18 6:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > >>> > >>> On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > This is the di

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 4:33 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/7/18 4:24 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/7/18 3:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to um

Re: HTTPD shutting down every night

2018-11-07 Thread Scott van Looy via users
OK thanks for this. It’s not normal though, it doesn’t actually restart - it just crashes. /bin/systemctl reload httpd seems to work OK when I run it as root, the server restarts. So I’m still a little confused. Does anyone have any suggestions? > On 7. Nov 2018, at 15:52, Roger Heflin wrote:

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce > Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. > I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. > > This crucial piece of the release is missing at all the mirror sit