Re: Python help

Gordon, tnx for your reply...I understand that using pip install is deprecated, anyway I tried also pip3 uninstall as root but the reply was no pyorbital was installed. A minor issue of course but how to have modules list similar if issued from help/modules (where pyorbital is listed) or pip3 list?

Re: Scroll Bars with Arrows Wanted

Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: >On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 12:13 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: >> I've always found that clicking in the scroll bar area will move it >> in >> the direction of the mouse arrow. Doesn't that work for you? > >Only too well! Clicking on the scroll bar area can move the window >many col

Re: Scroll Bars with Arrows Wanted

On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 16:47 -0500, fred roller wrote: > have you tried [shift]+[wheel] for horizontal scroll? > > -- Fred In Firefox, it scrolls through the history, which is not very useful. Regards, Jakub ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedorap

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 03:20:48 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: [ ... ] > Too early for me to attempt looking at the log   But what is the output > of > > systemctl status systemd-suspend.service Here is mine: # systemctl status systemd-suspend.service ● systemd-suspend.service - Suspend L

Non-responsive maintainer: joost

Per the policy I am asking here if anyone knows how to get in touch with joost (jo...@cnoc.nl). I have bug reports for both fpc and lazarus that have gone for weeks without any response and it's preventing me from building cqrlog on armv7hl in rawhide due to lazbuild and hedgewars has a segmentati

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:58:54 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/25/18 13:58, InvalidPath wrote: > > One thing of interest.   I googled "Dell XPS 15 9550 sleep problem" and > was > surprised by what was returned.  So, maybe the problem isn't related to Linux > at all? > @ed: It worked for t

Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:35 PM, JD wrote: > > > On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >>> kernel-devel x86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates >>> 12 M >>> kernel-headersx86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates >>> 1.2 M >>> >>

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Jan 25, 2018 6:35 AM, "Wolfgang Pfeiffer" wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:58:54 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/25/18 13:58, InvalidPath wrote: > > One thing of interest. I googled "Dell XPS 15 9550 sleep problem" and was > surprised by what was returned. So, maybe the problem isn't re

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: joost

They are largely referenced in the fedora-active-user output but here are the BZ links: fpc: needs bootstrap for armhfp https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1491788 SIGSEGV during game shutdown with hedgewars 0.9.23 (hwengine) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1526848 CQRLOG fai

Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:35 PM, JD wrote: > >> >> >> On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >>> On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> kernel-devel x86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates 12 M kernel-

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Jan 24, 2018 10:23 PM, "Todd Zullinger" wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: >> Is it possible to remove gnome but leave the unused and dependant >> packages? > > setting > clean_requirements_on_remove=False > in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf may help Good point. That can also be done on the command line with --noa

Re: PHP/apache issue after update

On 01/24/2018 05:14 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 01/24/2018 03:09 PM, Emmett Culley wrote: >> After a recent upgrade some development web sites served from my workstation >> stopped working. I've narrowed it down to the php_value auto_prepend_file >> directive not working. >> >> This is in the /

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: joost

On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 07:19 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > I have bug reports for both fpc and lazarus that have gone for weeks without > any response and it's preventing me from building cqrlog on armv7hl in > rawhide due to lazbuild and hedgewars has a segmentation fault due to a bug > in fpc.

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

Allegedly, on or about 24 January 2018, InvalidPath sent: > So correct me if Im wrong but *GDM*.. that stuff is all related to > Gnome yes? Related, but not essentially. Assuming that there's nothing else using the same initials, GDM is the Gnome Display Manager. In essence, it's the default log

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: joost

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 07:19 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: >> I have bug reports for both fpc and lazarus that have >> gone for weeks without any response and it's preventing >> me from building cqrlog on armv7hl in rawhide due to >> lazbuild and hedgewars has a segmentatio

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 07:09:42 -0700 InvalidPath wrote: > On Jan 25, 2018 6:35 AM, "Wolfgang Pfeiffer" wrote: > > > Plus: I'm running out of ideas: Did you try to start your machine > without X? There's a link in my previous message to a fedora page where > this is described in detail > Se

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: joost

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > I was going to say the devel list, per the Non-responsive > Maintainer Policy¹. > > I imagine that's what Richard intended. :) > > ¹ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_ > package_maintainers > > Yes... autocomplete err

Re: smartmontools still "monitoring" a replaced hard drive.

On 18-01-24 23:45:11, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 01/24/2018 02:51 PM, William Mattison wrote: The "smartctl" command with a parameter of "sda3" gives me this: As has already been mentioned, smartctl works on the entire drive, not a partition. I'm surprised it doesn't give an error in this case.

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 07:09:42 -0700 > InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Jan 25, 2018 6:35 AM, "Wolfgang Pfeiffer" wrote: > > > > > > > Plus: I'm running out of ideas: Did you try to start your machine > > without X? There's a link in my previ

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 03:04:17 +1030 Tim wrote: [ ... ] > You can install more than one display manager, and choose which one you > want to be run. > > A list of just a few others: > > KDM, KDE > XDM, a bare-bones X display manager > LXDM, for LXDE > SDDM I don't think that the display manager

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 17:47:11 +0100 Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 07:09:42 -0700 > InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Jan 25, 2018 6:35 AM, "Wolfgang Pfeiffer" wrote: > > I hear you, but no I have not tried without X yet. If suspending worked > > without X then the forward option wou

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 03:04:17 +1030 Tim wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > You can install more than one display manager, and choose which one you > > want to be run. > > > > A list of just a few others: > > > > KDM, KDE > > XDM, a bare-bones X displ

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

Allegedly, on or about 25 January 2018, Frank Elsner sent: > I don't think that the display manager is of any significance as the > problem occures when using "pm-suspend" in a console window. Or even > on an alphanumireic display (ctrl+alt+f2). Probably not, but they asked what GDM was. Anyway,

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:09:40 -0700 InvalidPath wrote: > > Oh crap, my bad. I was confusing my two currently open issues. Apologies. > > I did not run into the black screen after awaking today because last night > my battery was drained due to forgetting to plug it in. .. and you put it on

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:09:40 -0700 > InvalidPath wrote: > > > > > > Oh crap, my bad. I was confusing my two currently open issues. > Apologies. > > > > I did not run into the black screen after awaking today because last > night > > m

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 08:23 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > Tl;Dr I had to reinstall gnome-desktop in order to have a working > DE which sucks because I am not using gnome. > > Any thoughts? > Perhaps, you were missing the GNOME Display Manager package. Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest emai

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On 01/26/18 01:00, InvalidPath wrote: > I did a cursory google last night for wayland on Plasma... didnt have much > luck. I > need to discover what part of Gnome borked me over this AM. This thread has been rather long, and fragmented.  So, just 2 observations which you need to think about. 1

smartmontools still "monitoring" a replaced hard drive. [SOLVED]

Good morning everyone, After reading all your messages (a few times), re-examining the man pages (a few times), and re-visiting the smartmontools web site, I believe the real problem was that I was seriously misunderstanding the "Type" column.  I thought that it meant that some attributes were

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Michael Singh wrote: > On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 08:23 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > Tl;Dr I had to reinstall gnome-desktop in order to have a working > > DE which sucks because I am not using gnome. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Perhaps, you were missing the GNO

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/26/18 01:00, InvalidPath wrote: > > I did a cursory google last night for wayland on Plasma... didnt have > much luck. I > > need to discover what part of Gnome borked me over this AM. > > > This thread has been rather long, and fragment

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On 01/26/18 03:57, InvalidPath wrote: > So I think you are right.. I'd have to change this file to point towards the > PLasma > equivalent of GDM. Just do what I said systemctl -f enable sddm.service Don't do anything manually.  Do proper system administration. -- A motto of mine is: Whe

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/26/18 03:57, InvalidPath wrote: > > So I think you are right.. I'd have to change this file to point towards > the PLasma > > equivalent of GDM. > > > Just do what I said > > systemctl -f enable sddm.service > > Don't do anything manu

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:22 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 01/26/18 03:57, InvalidPath wrote: >> > So I think you are right.. I'd have to change this file to point >> towards the PLasma >> > equivalent of GDM. >> >> >> Just do what I said

Re: Suspend to Ram Issues

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:55 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:22 PM, InvalidPath > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >>> On 01/26/18 03:57, InvalidPath wrote: >>> > So I think you are right.. I'd have to change this file to point >>> t

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 12:51 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Michael Singh wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 08:23 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > > Tl;Dr I had to reinstall gnome-desktop in order to have a working > > > DE which sucks because I am not using gno

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 12:51 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Michael Singh > wrote: > > > On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 08:23 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > > > Tl;Dr I had to reinstall gnome-desktop in o

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/25/2018 11:51 AM, InvalidPath wrote: WOuld that cause KDE. Plasma or any other DE to not work? Only if you didn't have some other DM such as lightdm installed. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: f26 mariadb.service failed after multi-package update

On 25/1/18 4:33 am, John Pilkington wrote: On 24/01/18 17:09, John Pilkington wrote: sysstemctl | grep maria gives ● mariadb.service    loaded failed failed    MariaDB 10.1 database server There was a 'normal shutdown' of version 10.1.29 version 10.1.30 reports:

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/25/2018 03:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/25/2018 11:51 AM, InvalidPath wrote: >> >> WOuld that cause KDE. Plasma or any other DE to not work? > > Only if you didn't have some other DM such as lightdm installed. And one must ensure that the DM (gdm, lightdm, sddm) is enabled as well. --

Re: f26 mariadb.service failed after multi-package update

On 26/1/18 10:49 am, Stephen Morris wrote: On 25/1/18 4:33 am, John Pilkington wrote: On 24/01/18 17:09, John Pilkington wrote: sysstemctl | grep maria gives ● mariadb.service    loaded failed failed    MariaDB 10.1 database server There was a 'normal shutdown' o

Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

On 01/25/2018 07:14 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Terry Polzin > wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:35 PM, JD mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Gr

Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:30 PM, JD wrote: > > > On 01/25/2018 07:14 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Terry Polzin > > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:35 PM, JD > > wrote: >> >> >> >>

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 01/25/2018 03:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 01/25/2018 11:51 AM, InvalidPath wrote: > >> > >> WOuld that cause KDE. Plasma or any other DE to not work? > > > > Only if you didn't have some other DM such as lightdm installed. > > And one mu

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Rick Stevens > wrote: > >> On 01/25/2018 03:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> > On 01/25/2018 11:51 AM, InvalidPath wrote: >> >> >> >> WOuld that cause KDE. Plasma or any other DE to not work? >> > >> > Only if yo

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/26/18 11:54, InvalidPath wrote: > > > > Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the existing > display-manager.service file because enabling another DE would not overwrite > it. I > tried both SDDM and LightDM... neither of which would boot correctly, all  > got was >

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

Allegedly, on or about 25 January 2018, Rick Stevens sent: > And one must ensure that the DM (gdm, lightdm, sddm) is enabled as > well. I don't think you want several display managers *enabled*, surely you only want the active one to be enabled. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 4.14.13-20

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/26/18 12:59, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 25 January 2018, Rick Stevens sent: >> And one must ensure that the DM (gdm, lightdm, sddm) is enabled as >> well. > I don't think you want several display managers *enabled*, surely you > only want the active one to be enabled. > It is not pos

Re: rfc2307 with winbind?

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Jeff Sadowski wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: >> On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 16:25 -0700, Jeff Sadowski wrote: >>> My AD has the rfc2307 flags to provide home directories and shells. >>> The ubuntu 16.04 and centos 6.9 correctly ge

Re: rfc2307 with winbind?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Jeff Sadowski wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Jeff Sadowski > wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan >> wrote: >>> On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 16:25 -0700, Jeff Sadowski wrote: My AD has the rfc2307 flags to provide home directo

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/25/2018 07:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote: Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the existing display-manager.service file because enabling another DE would not overwrite it. I tried both SDDM and LightDM... neither of which would boot correctly, all  got was a black

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/26/18 15:01, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/25/2018 07:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote: >> >> >> Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the existing >> display-manager.service file because enabling another DE would not overwrite >> it. I >> tried both SDDM and LightDM... neither of