On 06/09/17 12:41, Tim wrote:
Robin Laing
And, is it still feasible to run the OS on old hardware? On my older
32-bit PCs, the notion of running Gnome or KDE is impossible. They're
too slow for being fancy with the graphics card. And, some can't even
run a modern distro, because they can only
[resend, never saw the first one]
I have a server running f19 (don't ask). It is heavily customised so I prefer
to not do a fresh install of f26 and reconfigure everything.
I am reading the upgrade guide at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading?rd=Upgrade
which says (Upgrading from En
I took the following quote from from the recent thread "Fedora 25 not
booting after update" - didn't want to hijack that thread and therefore
started this new one:
On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 01:56 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
[ ... ]
> I use Gnome and I still do my updates directly online with dnf. It'
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:16 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> did you, or anyone else, find a way to
> upgrade safely without the need to reboot? On Gnome?
>
Please note: I'm not talking about a full version upgrade from let's say
F25 to F26 - just about the usual upgrades inside a single Fedora
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Tim wrote:
>
> And, is it still feasible to run the OS on old hardware? On my older
> 32-bit PCs, the notion of running Gnome or KDE is impossible. They're
> too slow for being fancy with the graphics card. And, some can't even
> run a modern distro, because they
Den 2017-09-07 kl. 14:16, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
> I took the following quote from from the recent thread "Fedora 25 not
> booting after update" - didn't want to hijack that thread and therefore
> started this new one:
>
> On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 01:56 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:52 +0200, Jon Ingason wrote:
> Den 2017-09-07 kl. 14:16, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
> > Please note: I'm not talking about a full version upgrade from let's
> > say
> > F25 to F26 - just about the usual upgrades inside a single Fedora
> > version ..
>
> OK, then you need
Den 2017-09-07 kl. 15:32, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
> On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:52 +0200, Jon Ingason wrote:
>> Den 2017-09-07 kl. 14:16, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
>
>
>
>>> Please note: I'm not talking about a full version upgrade from let's
>>> say
>>> F25 to F26 - just about the usual upgrades i
On 09/07/2017 09:32 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> See? "The safest possible way to update a Fedora system is to use the
> ‘offline updates’ mechanism."
>
> That's why I started the thread. Again: I use dnf, not the GNOME update
> mechanism, but from how I understand A. Williamsen, this might also
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 21:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 09/07/2017 09:32 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > See? "The safest possible way to update a Fedora system is to use
> > the
> > ‘offline updates’ mechanism."
> >
> > That's why I started the thread. Again: I use dnf, not the GNOME
> > updat
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 15:48 +0200, Jon Ingason wrote:
> Den 2017-09-07 kl. 15:32, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
> > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:52 +0200, Jon Ingason wrote:
> > > Den 2017-09-07 kl. 14:16, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > Please note: I'm not talking about a full version upgr
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 02:16:23PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> Ditto here: Gnome here (plus KDE installed, but rarely used) and I also
> update via dnf only, i.e. I log out of Gnome, log in to a tty, run
> "dnf upgrade", and reboot - did you, or anyone else, find a way to
> upgrade safely wi
On 17-09-06 14:03:44, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/06/2017 09:40 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Dillo's ssl support seems to be broken in F26 (and has been since
the day it was released). Here is what happens:
>
> Go to https://www.nytimes.com/
>
> The webpage says that Dillo's prototype plug
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 21:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> The best thing to do after an update via dnf is to run "dnf
> needs-restarting". This
> will give you a list of processes that could potentially be impacted by the
> last
> update by, for example, some libraries being updated.
AFAIK this ha
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 04:46:26PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > The best thing to do after an update via dnf is to run "dnf
> > needs-restarting". This
> > will give you a list of processes that could potentially be impacted by the
> > last
> > update by, for example, some libraries bei
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 22:03:15 +1000
Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> [resend, never saw the first one]
>
> I have a server running f19 (don't ask). It is heavily customised so
> I prefer to not do a fresh install of f26 and reconfigure everything.
>
> I am reading the upgrade guide at
> https://fed
On Fri, 14 Jul 2017, Neal Becker wrote:
Starting acroread, it just silently exits.
AdobeReader_enu-9.5.5-1.i486
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On 09/07/2017 05:03 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> [resend, never saw the first one]
>
> I have a server running f19 (don't ask). It is heavily customised so I
> prefer
> to not do a fresh install of f26 and reconfigure everything.
>
> I am reading the upgrade guide at
> https://fedoraproject.o
If the device doesn't get an address, you're still before the
iptables/forwarding stage.
Look in your log files for DHCP messages.
Bill
On 9/6/2017 3:46 PM, JD wrote:
Hi,
My em1 is config'ed as:
ifconfig em1 inet 10.10.10.1 up netmask 0xff00
The wifi is connected to and internet and wor
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 11:27:03 -0400 Tony Nelson
wrote:
> On 17-09-06 14:03:44, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > On 09/06/2017 09:40 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Dillo's ssl support seems to be broken in F26 (and has been since
> > the day it was released). Here is what happens:
> > >
>
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 11:00 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> [ ... ]
> Note also that in the event of security problems, you may still have
> stuff running with the old versions in memory. Run `sudo dnf
> needs-restarting` to see what needs to restart; often a reboot is just
> _easier_.
Easier, yes,
On 09/07/2017 03:39 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
After a full reboot then, 'dnf needs-restarting' now yields nothing.
Of course it does. running dnf needs-restarting gives you a list of
programs that either have been updated more recently than their last
start or are using shared resources t
On Fri, 2017-09-08 at 00:39 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> I did an upgrade on a tmux session, on a tty - quite a few packages got
> upgraded, glibc among them.
Updating glibc means you need to reboot anyway. Essentially everything
depends on it.
poc
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On 09/07/2017 11:46 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 21:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> The best thing to do after an update via dnf is to run "dnf
>> needs-restarting". This
>> will give you a list of processes that could potentially be impacted by the
>> last
>> update by,
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 15:47 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 09/07/2017 03:39 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > After a full reboot then, 'dnf needs-restarting' now yields nothing.
>
> Of course it does. running dnf needs-restarting gives you a list of
> programs that either have been updated more rec
On Fri, 2017-09-08 at 07:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 09/07/2017 11:46 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 21:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > The best thing to do after an update via dnf is to run "dnf
> > > needs-restarting". This
> > > will give you a list of processe
> Den 2017-09-07 kl. 14:16, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
> You only need to reboot if the kernel is updated.
Supposedly there are ways to get around this even this, but I can't find a way
to make it work.
kSplice smoothly switches the running system to the new kernel, but Oracle
acquired the projec
On 09/07/2017 05:20 PM, Andrew Toskin wrote:
>> Den 2017-09-07 kl. 14:16, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
>> You only need to reboot if the kernel is updated.
>
> Supposedly there are ways to get around this even this, but I can't find a
> way to make it work.
>
> kSplice smoothly switches the running
On 09/07/2017 01:31 PM, Bill Shirley wrote:
On 9/6/2017 3:46 PM, JD wrote:
Hi,
My em1 is config'ed as:
ifconfig em1 inet 10.10.10.1 up netmask 0xff00
The wifi is connected to and internet and working OK.
em1 is the lan.
I have the following /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf file
DHCPDARGS=em1;
dd
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