On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 21:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 09/07/2017 09:32 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > See? "The safest possible way to update a Fedora system is to use
> > the
> > ‘offline updates’ mechanism."
> > 
> > That's why I started the thread. Again: I use dnf, not the GNOME
> > update
> > mechanism, but from how I understand A. Williamsen, this might also
> > apply to package updates via dnf and the reboot following on that
> > ...
> 
> 
> Yes, that is the "safest" path.
> 
> The best thing to do after an update via dnf is to run "dnf needs-
> restarting".

Wow, that looks like a really powerful tool: I didn't even know about
it. Thanks a lot for letting me know: might save me quite some time ... 

I really will need to have a look at the rest of the installed
dnf.plugin.* tools ...

> This will give you a list of processes that could potentially be
> impacted by the last update by, for example, some libraries being
> updated.
> 
> Depending on what you find, you may just need to logout/login to
> restart the
> processes.  Or, you may need to restart some daemon using "systemctl
> restart whatever".
> 
> There is no definitive answer to the question.

That's actually what I was thinking, too. But I simply don't know too
much about Fedora so far to be sure about it ...

> I've the habit of not rebooting or logging out.  Most of the time to
> no ill effect.  Other times, after a while, I may find some odd
> behaviors.  So, I'll logout/login and if all is OK, continue.  If the
> oddities continue, I'll reboot.

Makes sense, yes ...

> 
> I've never run into a situation where a corruption occurred causing a
> permanent damage to my system.

Sounds good ... :)
As I said: For an update I - meantime - always try to log out of the X
environment and then start the upgrade process on a VT - I think this is
a good idea.

Again: thanks again for mentioning the "needs-restarting" plugin  ...

Regards
Wolfgang 

> 
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