Re: Best web content management system for unsophisticated end-users?

2015-05-03 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 02.05.2015 um 21:01 schrieb Thomas Cameron > : > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I am trying to help a buddy set up a simple web site for a small > landscaping business. I'm going to run it on a Fedora 21 VM on Digital > Ocean (I love them, by the way). > > I will se

Re: Best web content management system for unsophisticated end-users?

2015-05-03 Thread Roger
On 03/05/15 19:24, Peter Boy wrote: Am 02.05.2015 um 21:01 schrieb Thomas Cameron : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am trying to help a buddy set up a simple web site for a small landscaping business. I'm going to run it on a Fedora 21 VM on Digital Ocean (I love them, by the wa

Re: CurrentPendingSector

2015-05-03 Thread MegaBrutal
Hi all, Sorry for reviving a thread from the past, but I have a very similar problem: my Current_Pending_Sector value is 2, and I get notifications about it. I'm wondering whether I should replace the drive. What is strange, though, is that when I run a long self-test (smartctl -t long /dev/sdc),

Re: Best web content management system for unsophisticated end-users?

2015-05-03 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2015-05-02 at 14:01 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: > I'd like to make sure it's dead-bang easy for him to upload pictures > and the like when his company finishes a new project. If they're only going to upload graphics (photos, product shots with prices superimposed, pictures saying "sale on

F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
I just tried upgrade my F19/i686 PC to F21/i686, but I'm frustrated: - (bigger harm) Why hasn't Fedora alternative (upstart/openrc) init? In F14- times all things worked for me flawlessly, was not problem for me create init script for new (Fedora unsupported) services, was not problem for me creat

Re: CurrentPendingSector

2015-05-03 Thread Robert Nichols
On 05/03/2015 05:40 AM, MegaBrutal wrote: Sorry for reviving a thread from the past, but I have a very similar problem: my Current_Pending_Sector value is 2, and I get notifications about it. I'm wondering whether I should replace the drive. What is strange, though, is that when I run a long self

Re: CurrentPendingSector

2015-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 3 May 2015 12:40:48 +0200 MegaBrutal wrote: > I'm wondering whether I should replace the drive. What is > strange, though, is that when I run a long self-test (smartctl -t long > /dev/sdc), it reports „Completed without error”. I tried to make this go away on my drive by spending ages wri

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 03 May 2015 14:04:37 +0200 Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > - (smaller harm) Why hasn't systemd option to run without journald? See "Tip 3" in: http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game/systemd.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

grub2

2015-05-03 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, After I run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg grub2-install /dev/sda I was unable to boot: dracut failed to create symbolic link /dev/resume: file exists This is thepart of the grub.cfg fails menuentry 'Fedora, with Linux 3.19.5-100.fc20.x86_64' --class fedora --clas

Re: grub2

2015-05-03 Thread Ranjan Maitra
From what I recall from the discussion on this thread, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-December/443871.html you are supposed to edit /etc/sysconfig/grub. Did you do that? Ranjan On Sun, 3 May 2015 15:59:00 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > After I run > gru

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 03 May 2015 14:04:37 +0200 Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > > - (bigger harm) Why hasn't Fedora alternative (upstart/openrc) init? Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) If you want Fedora to have an alternative init, roll up your sleeves and dig in, make it happen! ;-) :-) Marko

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 3 May 2015 15:45:36 +0100 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) Not the slightest possibility that is true. I have a more likely reason for the universal adoption of systemd: http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game/selection.html -- users mailing lis

Re: grub2

2015-05-03 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 03.05.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Patrick Dupre: Hello, After I run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg grub2-install /dev/sda First thought: Shouldn't these two commands be interchanged? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sun, 03 May 2015 14:04:37 +0200 > Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> >> - (bigger harm) Why hasn't Fedora alternative (upstart/openrc) init? > > Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) > > If you want Fedora to have an alternative init, roll up your sleeves > and di

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 2015 15:45:36 +0100 > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) > > Not the slightest possibility that is true. I have a more > likely reason for the universal adoption of systemd: > > http:

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 3 May 2015 10:57:55 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 2015 15:45:36 +0100 > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) > > Not the slightest possibility that is true. I have a more > likely reason for the universal adoption of systemd: > > http

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 03 May 2015 17:33:53 +0200 Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Sun, 03 May 2015 14:04:37 +0200 > > Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > >> > >> - (bigger harm) Why hasn't Fedora alternative (upstart/openrc) > >> init? > > > > Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) >

The spamming servers

2015-05-03 Thread jd1008
I got this from the freebsd mailing list to which I am subscribed. Has anyone else seen this: Unnoticed for years, malware turned Linux and BSD servers into spamming machines http://www.net-security.org/malware_new

Re: grub2

2015-05-03 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 05/03/2015 11:02 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > Am 03.05.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Patrick Dupre: >> Hello, >> >> After I run >> grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg >> grub2-install /dev/sda > First thought: Shouldn't these two commands be interchanged? no, you run the mkconfig FIRST, t

Re: grub2

2015-05-03 Thread Paul Cartwright
> Hello, > > After I run > grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg > grub2-install /dev/sda > > I was unable to boot: > dracut > failed to create symbolic link > /dev/resume: file exists when that happens to me, I have a boot repair CD that I use to remake

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 2015 15:45:36 +0100 > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >> Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) > > Not the slightest possibility that is true. I have a more > likely reason for the universal adoption of systemd: > > http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game/

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Sun, 3 May 2015 15:45:36 +0100 > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) > > Not the slightest possibility that is true. I have a more > likely rea

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sun, 03 May 2015 17:33:53 +0200 > Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > >> Marko Vojinovic wrote: >>> On Sun, 03 May 2015 14:04:37 +0200 >>> Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: - (bigger harm) Why hasn't Fedora alternative (upstart/openrc) init? >>> >>> Umm, because everyone

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Rahul, I'm not sure what you're talking about, sorry for my narrow > english knowledge. > Despite of that, although I know that systemd fans talk how is its > documentations exhaustive (best/ideal/...), it isn't truth I disagree wi

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > HI > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > > Rahul, I'm not sure what you're talking about, sorry for my narrow > english knowledge. > Despite of that, although I know that systemd fans talk how is its > documentations exhaustive (be

Re: what happened to the dkim-milter? (and LTSP)

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 04/16/2015 07:19 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> I'm looking for Fedora 20 dkim-milter package (which was in F19 and >> lower), but it seems as it isn't available - probably not even in >> the F21). Know anyone? > > It was retired. You should switch to opendkim. >

Re: grub2

2015-05-03 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 15:59 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > After I run > grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg > grub2-install /dev/sda Why not just try... 1 - grub2-mkconfig 2 - grub2-install /dev/sda Unless your using specific config files and such, it will do the work

Re: grub2

2015-05-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/03/2015 02:37 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: 1 - grub2-mkconfig 2 - grub2-install /dev/sda Doing that would just output the new config to the screen. If you want the new config to be saved, you must use -o $FULLYQUALIFIEDFILENAME to store it in the right place. -- users mailing list users@l

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/03/2015 05:04 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: - (bigger harm) Why hasn't Fedora alternative (upstart/openrc) init? ... When systemd presents itself as compatible with sysvinit, then IMO having alternative init in Fedora should not be too big problem. Systemd is backward-compatible with SysV

SV: Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread birger
First of all, supporting multiple init systems is not something a distro wants to do. It would involve forcing package maintainers to support them when getting enough package maintainers is a problem already. The alternative is to create a respin with another init system and its own builds of

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 05/03/2015 05:04 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> - (bigger harm) Why hasn't Fedora alternative (upstart/openrc) init? >> ... >> When systemd presents itself as compatible with sysvinit, then IMO >> having alternative init in Fedora should not be too big problem. > > Syst

/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db perms

2015-05-03 Thread jd1008
As unprivileged user, I run locate and get $ locate file_3.mp3 locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': Permission denied I always end up running sudo to change the perms so unpriv'ed users can run locate. What command should I run so the mlocate.db file is readable by unpriv'ed user

Re: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db perms

2015-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/04/15 07:14, jd1008 wrote: > As unprivileged user, I run locate > and get > $ locate file_3.mp3 > locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': Permission denied > > I always end up running sudo to change the perms so unpriv'ed > users can run locate. > > What command should I run so t

Re: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db perms

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/04/15 07:14, jd1008 wrote: >> As unprivileged user, I run locate >> and get >> $ locate file_3.mp3 >> locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': Permission denied >> >> I always end up running sudo to change the perms so unpriv'ed >> users can run locate. >> >> W

Re: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db perms

2015-05-03 Thread jd1008
On 05/03/2015 05:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/04/15 07:14, jd1008 wrote: As unprivileged user, I run locate and get $ locate file_3.mp3 locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': Permission denied I always end up running sudo to change the perms so unpriv'ed users can run locate.

Re: SV: Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
birger wrote: > First of all, supporting multiple init systems is not something a distro > wants to do. > > It would involve forcing package maintainers to support them when getting > enough package maintainers is a problem already. > > The alternative is to create a respin with another init syst

Re: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db perms

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
jd1008 wrote: > > > On 05/03/2015 05:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 05/04/15 07:14, jd1008 wrote: >>> As unprivileged user, I run locate >>> and get >>> $ locate file_3.mp3 >>> locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': Permission denied >>> >>> I always end up running sudo to change th

Re: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db perms

2015-05-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/04/15 07:47, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 05/03/2015 05:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 05/04/15 07:14, jd1008 wrote: >>> As unprivileged user, I run locate >>> and get >>> $ locate file_3.mp3 >>> locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': Permission denied >>> >>> I always end up running

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Rahul, thanks to Your recommendation. But for wider angle, this isn't > as so significant. I want a stable system on which I can rely on - > and it now block systemd piece. And as I see for last 4 years of its > evolving, it is still

Re: SV: Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 01:48:57 +0200, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Hmm, I guess You want advice me, to bought some strictly limited (maybe commercial) OS - and then shut up and be satisfied with I have. But this fortunately is not Linux case... However it is very unlikely that Fedora will supp

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Pete Travis
On May 3, 2015 6:04 AM, "Frantisek Hanzlik" wrote: > > - (problem for me create init script for another network daemon > instance running on different port etc. > TIA, Franta Hanzlik > > -- > I cut out the parts that didn't seem relevant to accomplishing what it seems like you are trying to do.

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

2015-05-03 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Pete Travis wrote: > I cut out the parts that didn't seem relevant to accomplishing what it > seems like you are trying to do. > > Can you elaborate on what service, specifically, you want to listen on a > different port, how you attempted to change it, and what happened when you > did so? Hi, it

failed systemctl services?

2015-05-03 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
I was checking on systemctl status and found some that were listed as failed? One was caused since the vboxdrv modules for 3.19.5 kernel were not being installed by yum for some reason. They didn't show up in the list, but was able to locate and manually install it to correct that error. The ot